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Created by tryhard > 9 months ago, 26 Oct 2014
desertyank
1262 posts
18 Nov 2014 2:25AM
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I am really loving this thread! Keep up the photos and the progress

tryhard
222 posts
22 Nov 2014 12:52PM
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For some days I have pondering how to cut the mast step to fit the spine.I imagined some kind of jig affair which would involve my drill being set at the required angle with the hole saw.As I was trying to decide what to do (a not unpleasant pastime ), I found my way back into this forum and discovered somebody had already found a much better way.I came across a Tube Coping Calculator devised by MetalGeek which is sheer genius.The online program works by putting in the dimensions of the two pipes and a pattern emerges which can be traced onto the pipe.How fantastic is that! So I printed off my pattern and cut it out thus:


tryhard
222 posts
22 Nov 2014 12:53PM
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Then I traced the outline onto my stock


tryhard
222 posts
22 Nov 2014 12:57PM
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tryhard
222 posts
22 Nov 2014 12:59PM
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And cut it out roughly



using a jigsaw

tryhard
222 posts
22 Nov 2014 1:00PM
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I shaped the rest using my bench grinder


tryhard
222 posts
22 Nov 2014 1:01PM
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And tried a dry fit


tryhard
222 posts
22 Nov 2014 1:05PM
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The clever metal geek program factored in the angle as well which I set at 75 degrees.The next step was to shape the flare at the top which I did employing the technique described in an earlier post.The tool is simply a piece of steel with a slot cut rounded off


tryhard
222 posts
22 Nov 2014 1:06PM
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Working around carefully a very pleasing flare resulted


tryhard
222 posts
22 Nov 2014 1:08PM
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Not the best photo but you get the idea.I dismantled the windsurfer boom and hope to use these parts in the seat assembly


Chook2
WA, 1244 posts
22 Nov 2014 7:13PM
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You have done some really nice work.

I wonder about the 15 degree rake on the mast step though. It does seem a lot for a fixed step.

My "fixed" non adjustable mast steps have slowly decreased over different yachts, from 10 degrees down to 3 for larger than 6m2 sails.

Loving all the photos as you build. Well done.

tryhard
222 posts
23 Nov 2014 3:18AM
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Chook2 said..
You have done some really nice work.

I wonder about the 15 degree rake on the mast step though. It does seem a lot for a fixed step.

My "fixed" non adjustable mast steps have slowly decreased over different yachts, from 10 degrees down to 3 for larger than 6m2 sails.

Loving all the photos as you build. Well done.


Thanks for the encouragement . The rake angle was what Clem the Clever had used in his version so I was simply following his lead.His design has an adjusting screw which allows for +or- 5 degrees.I have yet to start on the weldathon so there is time to adjust the rake if that is recommended by the wise and experienced heads on this forum.I welcome input.
By the way I have decided not to go with the front wheel and fork assembly shown in the earlier posts because the wheel is too big.That explains the appearance of the child's bike in photo of the ski purchase. Cutting and shaping the steering head was a doddle having done this once before.I guess after a few such builds the speed of construction increases.As a newbie I spend quite a bit of time trying to avoid mistakes and figuring out how to do certain things.

Clemco
430 posts
23 Nov 2014 6:18AM
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Better have another look at the plan tryhard. The angle of the mast step is 10 degrees not 15.


tryhard
222 posts
23 Nov 2014 9:01AM
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Thanks very much Clem.I couldn't tell from the sketch what the angle was supposed to be and I was going off your skimini rebuild post where the angle is given at 15 degrees.

tryhard
222 posts
23 Nov 2014 10:12AM
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Measure twice etc etc.So the marvellous metal geek program adjusted for my misunderstanding and produced another pattern


tryhard
222 posts
23 Nov 2014 10:14AM
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And marked out in white pencil.The unspoken understanding in my neighbourhood is no noisy machines on Sunday so the reshaping will have to be done after work next week .


Clemco
430 posts
23 Nov 2014 10:44AM
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Ah yes sorry I did build that one at 15 degrees, but once I put the sail up I realized I should have made it 10, so I drew the plan with 10 degrees but forgot to dimension that. It's not worth me changing mine now. I will have to put up with it.
I would recommend the 10 degrees rake. You will have the adjustment to rake the mast from 5 to 15.
Nice job so far buy the way. Where can we get a copy of that template drawing program?
Clem.

Test pilot 1
WA, 1430 posts
23 Nov 2014 11:31AM
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Clemco said..
Ah yes sorry I did build that one at 15 degrees, but once I put the sail up I realized I should have made it 10, so I drew the plan with 10 degrees but forgot to dimension that. It's not worth me changing mine now. I will have to put up with it.
I would recommend the 10 degrees rake. You will have the adjustment to rake the mast from 5 to 15.
Nice job so far buy the way. Where can we get a copy of that template drawing program?
Clem.



I googled"Tube Coping Calculator" and got:-
www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCUQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmetalgeek.com%2Fstatic%2Fcope_custom.pcgi&ei=vUZxVKqRPIOD8QWTkIEI&usg=AFQjCNEoAf0RyWShsj12oonc0XdkvuifHw&bvm=bv.80185997,d.dGc

Hiko
1229 posts
23 Nov 2014 1:32PM
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Ha the noise I make grinding on a Sunday is nothing to my neighbours and their rap music on their boom box
not that often I am glad to say

tryhard
222 posts
25 Nov 2014 5:05PM
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I have discovered a new use for my earmuffs.The noise from possible neighbours complaints is eliminated.Here is the recut mast step


tryhard
222 posts
25 Nov 2014 5:07PM
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My kindly brother in law lent me a real v



ise (made of steel) and I carefully compressed the tube down to 50mm

tryhard
222 posts
25 Nov 2014 5:09PM
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And yet another dry fit on a short section of spine material




Chook2
WA, 1244 posts
25 Nov 2014 9:47PM
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Just make sure you file or die grind the internal seam of the pipe smooth before you weld it on.

tryhard
222 posts
26 Nov 2014 1:50PM
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Thanks for the tip Chook.What is a die grind?

Chook2
WA, 1244 posts
26 Nov 2014 8:21PM
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It is an air or electric powered grinder.
A stone or carbide burr is mounted onto a 6mm shaft. Operates up to 20,000rpm.

tryhard
222 posts
29 Nov 2014 10:05AM
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I bought all the nuts and bolts from a specialty store (much much cheaper than the big orange/green ones).I also cut out the seat from some ply I had in my shed.If the world came to an end except my shed, mankind could start again with what I have in there.I made the seat narrower at one end as shown.The weldathon happens next week




tryhard
222 posts
29 Nov 2014 4:12PM
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How to bend ply around a fairly tight bend without breaking it? I built a celtic harp for daughter a few years ago and this required a very tight bend.Pat Sephton,the designer advised me to use a hot air gun to heat the ply.This works the same way as steaming only quicker.I put glue around the edge of the seat part and nailed the combing with bronze ring nails about 50 mm apart














tryhard
222 posts
29 Nov 2014 4:13PM
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tryhard
222 posts
5 Dec 2014 6:52PM
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The weldathon is nearly complete.A couple of things I have learned.Welders don't like welding galvanised steel.Apparently the zinc vaporises at a lower temperature than steel. On the upside -some of my less than accurate cutting doesn't matter once the weld is done. The next job is to grind /sand the welds and prepare the beastie for painting.The welder thinks I should sand blast and powdercoat. What do others think?












BenBoulder
WA, 261 posts
5 Dec 2014 6:57PM
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Best not to breath the toxic fumes from welding gal.

Test Sail your yacht before you spend the time and money sand blasting and powder coating. You may want to make changes or adjustments.

Ben.



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