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AIS...Who Has What in 2020

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Created by Wavesong > 9 months ago, 5 May 2020
Wavesong
QLD, 145 posts
5 May 2020 4:01AM
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Looking at installing an AIS transceiver.
I have a Raymarine plotter and Samsung tablet running Navionics. Would like everything to talk to each other.

Interested to know who is using what, feedback and recommendations?

Thanks

southace
SA, 4776 posts
5 May 2020 7:24AM
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SV Wavesong said..
Looking at installing an AIS transceiver.
I have a Raymarine plotter and Samsung tablet running Navionics. Would like everything to talk to each other.

Interested to know who is using what, feedback and recommendations?

Thanks


www.chsmith.com.au/Products/Vesper-WatchMate-XB-8000-smartAIS-Transponder.html

This seems the most simple yet most expensive. I finally bit the bullet and ordered one as the price never seems to come down. I will report back when it arrives.

dralyagmas
SA, 380 posts
5 May 2020 8:24AM
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southace said..

SV Wavesong said..
Looking at installing an AIS transceiver.
I have a Raymarine plotter and Samsung tablet running Navionics. Would like everything to talk to each other.

Interested to know who is using what, feedback and recommendations?

Thanks



www.chsmith.com.au/Products/Vesper-WatchMate-XB-8000-smartAIS-Transponder.html

This seems the most simple yet most expensive. I finally bit the bullet and ordered one as the price never seems to come down. I will report back when it arrives.


I have one of these and its great. NMEA output into the laptop overlay to OpenCPN. When I get a wifi multiplexor it will go to a tablet at the helm. Alarms can get a bit annoying in harbors but it has different profiles that you can set alarms so turn it into harbor mode when you are going up the river and its all good

nswsailor
NSW, 1434 posts
5 May 2020 1:25PM
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I have an AIS receiver.

I had great trouble getting all my devices to talk to each other, AIS, Plotter and DFC radio.

You will notice an extra -VE wire that appears to have nothing to do with the power supply.
There must be a wire connecting all devices so each can see the gaps in the data packages.
All devices cannot see each other if this is not connected.

You will have to investigate your wiring diagrams to work this out, especially if you have different makes in your system.

twodogs1969
NSW, 1000 posts
5 May 2020 2:45PM
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SV Wavesong said..
Looking at installing an AIS transceiver.
I have a Raymarine plotter and Samsung tablet running Navionics. Would like everything to talk to each other.

Interested to know who is using what, feedback and recommendations?

Thanks


Our have the B&G transceiver but I running will B&G electronics.
I would advise if you are running Raymarine go that way. For AIS to be of most use to all it requires everyone to send and receive so go the transceiver.

2bish
TAS, 815 posts
5 May 2020 3:48PM
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Hi Wavesong, I have the Raymarine AIS transceiver. I chose that one because the rest of my system is Raymarine and I didn't want any setup issues. It works very well. What model plotter do you have? If it's very old, it's worth checking that it's compatible with latest Raymarine AIS units. The Sydney based Raymarine support people are very helpful, so maybe worth a call or email to check.

shaggybaxter
QLD, 2541 posts
5 May 2020 4:06PM
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SV Wavesong said..
Looking at installing an AIS transceiver.
I have a Raymarine plotter and Samsung tablet running Navionics. Would like everything to talk to each other.

Interested to know who is using what, feedback and recommendations?

Thanks


Hiya SV,
Do you want to transmit or just receive?
Do you want it on your VHF radio, ie: AIS capable?

DAMA
QLD, 239 posts
5 May 2020 5:10PM
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We have the Vesper 800
has wi fi and sends data to navionics on tablet , great anchor watch alarm as well .
excellent piece of kit
buy the external alarm as it is loud , and has saved my ribs on many a night ..

Stockie
NSW, 343 posts
5 May 2020 6:21PM
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I'm using the Vesper too, it was very useful sailing up to the Whitsundays last year, especially past Mackay and Bundaberg with all the shipping. The vesper works well with Raymarine, I have it wired into my RM backbone. Another bonus along with anchor watch is you and or your loved ones on shore can see exactly where the boat is, via ship tracker. It even shows you track history.
The coast guard can also see you much easier at the main bases with computer screen set ups.
cheers Richard

Wavesong
QLD, 145 posts
5 May 2020 8:37PM
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Thanks for your replies.

My plotter is a Raymarine a75 MFD. I also have Raymarine autopilot and bidata so inclined to follow 2bish's lead.

I do most of my sailing solo and feel I'm ready to stretch my wings further than my immediate backyard of Moreton Bay (once the s...t show of Covid 19 is over).

For my personal safety and the family's peace of mind back on shore, I think having the capability to transmit and receive is the only choice.

Jolene
WA, 1576 posts
5 May 2020 6:51PM
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I have the Raymarine AIS 700 with the Raymarine c-97 chartplotter/ mfd

southace
SA, 4776 posts
5 May 2020 8:27PM
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SV Wavesong said..
Thanks for your replies.

My plotter is a Raymarine a75 MFD. I also have Raymarine autopilot and bidata so inclined to follow 2bish's lead.

I do most of my sailing solo and feel I'm ready to stretch my wings further than my immediate backyard of Moreton Bay (once the s...t show of Covid 19 is over).

For my personal safety and the family's peace of mind back on shore, I think having the capability to transmit and receive is the only choice.


I am removing this vesper class A reciver Can't even give it away! Not so sure what I'm going to fill the void with. What I'm finding it's best to use the wifi apps and have the units behind the cupboards now. Cost more but less wires and hassle free.


shaggybaxter
QLD, 2541 posts
5 May 2020 10:29PM
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southace said..

SV Wavesong said..
Thanks for your replies.

My plotter is a Raymarine a75 MFD. I also have Raymarine autopilot and bidata so inclined to follow 2bish's lead.

I do most of my sailing solo and feel I'm ready to stretch my wings further than my immediate backyard of Moreton Bay (once the s...t show of Covid 19 is over).

For my personal safety and the family's peace of mind back on shore, I think having the capability to transmit and receive is the only choice.



I am removing this vesper class A reciver Can't even give it away! Not so sure what I'm going to fill the void with. What I'm finding it's best to use the wifi apps and have the units behind the cupboards now. Cost more but less wires and hassle free.



Until you give your mate your phone and whilst the numpty is hanging off the sidestays taking pictures of his missus he drops your phone over the side.
Don't ask......still a bit raw....

Ilenart
WA, 250 posts
5 May 2020 8:50PM
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Have the GME AIS class B transceiver with the splitter. It has a usb connection so that is used for the nav software on the computer, for both AIS plus positioning. This is also connected via a NMEA 2000 backbone to the B&G B&G T12 Zeus Touch chartplotter in the cockpit. The GME AIS is also connected to a MiniPlex-3Wi(-N2K) Multiplexer which then transmits AIS to iNAVx on my ipad (which also transmits wind info from the Raymarine instruments). All up works pretty good.

The GME splitter also allows connection to the aerial on the FM radio, which greatly improves FM reception (plus vhf of course).

Ilenart

Toph
WA, 1839 posts
5 May 2020 8:51PM
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Wavesong, the A75 has WiFi, so to keep it simple you could download the Raymarine app and mirror your chart plotter onto you Samsung. You can even control the MFD and autopilot from the tablet. If by chance your plotter packs up you can still fall back onto Navionics on your tablet.

I removed a Raymarine receiver only and replaced it with a GME transceiver. Because it goes to my master plotter (a E95), and than goes via Sea-talk to another two plotters plus an iPad. And it was half the price of a Raymarine transceiver.

southace
SA, 4776 posts
5 May 2020 10:24PM
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shaggybaxter said..

southace said..


SV Wavesong said..
Thanks for your replies.

My plotter is a Raymarine a75 MFD. I also have Raymarine autopilot and bidata so inclined to follow 2bish's lead.

I do most of my sailing solo and feel I'm ready to stretch my wings further than my immediate backyard of Moreton Bay (once the s...t show of Covid 19 is over).

For my personal safety and the family's peace of mind back on shore, I think having the capability to transmit and receive is the only choice.




I am removing this vesper class A reciver Can't even give it away! Not so sure what I'm going to fill the void with. What I'm finding it's best to use the wifi apps and have the units behind the cupboards now. Cost more but less wires and hassle free.



Until you give your mate your phone and whilst the numpty is hanging off the sidestays taking pictures of his missus he drops your phone over the side.
Don't ask......still a bit raw....


I have 2 iPads 2 iPhones a stupid Samsung a laptop with open CPN chart plotters c70 and c90, Garmin hand held chart plotter and a g3x Canon for pix why would I want a misses and a mate that drops stuff over the side?

shaggybaxter
QLD, 2541 posts
5 May 2020 11:21PM
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southace said..

shaggybaxter said..


southace said..



SV Wavesong said..
Thanks for your replies.

My plotter is a Raymarine a75 MFD. I also have Raymarine autopilot and bidata so inclined to follow 2bish's lead.

I do most of my sailing solo and feel I'm ready to stretch my wings further than my immediate backyard of Moreton Bay (once the s...t show of Covid 19 is over).

For my personal safety and the family's peace of mind back on shore, I think having the capability to transmit and receive is the only choice.





I am removing this vesper class A reciver Can't even give it away! Not so sure what I'm going to fill the void with. What I'm finding it's best to use the wifi apps and have the units behind the cupboards now. Cost more but less wires and hassle free.




Until you give your mate your phone and whilst the numpty is hanging off the sidestays taking pictures of his missus he drops your phone over the side.
Don't ask......still a bit raw....



I have 2 iPads 2 iPhones a stupid Samsung a laptop with open CPN chart plotters c70 and c90, Garmin hand held chart plotter and a g3x Canon for pix why would I want a misses and a mate that drops stuff over the side?


Touche!

Wavesong
QLD, 145 posts
6 May 2020 1:10PM
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Toph said..
Wavesong, the A75 has WiFi, so to keep it simple you could download the Raymarine app and mirror your chart plotter onto you Samsung. You can even control the MFD and autopilot from the tablet. If by chance your plotter packs up you can still fall back onto Navionics on your tablet.

I removed a Raymarine receiver only and replaced it with a GME transceiver. Because it goes to my master plotter (a E95), and than goes via Sea-talk to another two plotters plus an iPad. And it was half the price of a Raymarine transceiver.


Thanks Toph....that sounds doable as well....and less expensive

Stockie
NSW, 343 posts
6 May 2020 8:34PM
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SV Wavesong said..
Thanks for your replies.

My plotter is a Raymarine a75 MFD. I also have Raymarine autopilot and bidata so inclined to follow 2bish's lead.

I do most of my sailing solo and feel I'm ready to stretch my wings further than my immediate backyard of Moreton Bay (once the s...t show of Covid 19 is over).

For my personal safety and the family's peace of mind back on shore, I think having the capability to transmit and receive is the only choice.


My plotter is RM late model hybrid touch screen, the only extra you need to put a vesper into the RM backbone is NMEA2000 to Seatalk NG connector, available from RM or Whitworths. VESPER specialise in AIS, that's there main gig. There is no issue integrating to your MFD, look on your plotter and you will see the menu.Cheers Richard

Seamonkey_H2024
VIC, 344 posts
7 May 2020 10:10AM
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A few years ago I bought a Matsutec HP-33A for about $200-300. These units are simple and effective. I don't believe they will talk with other map hardware, but they have their own simple LCD screen where you can see a simple radar style proximity detection map. If you're on a budget something like this is really good. It really helped me out while solo sailing and setting up proximity alarms. It's also good to provide another gps source for your boat. You need to buy VHF splitters for this product.

*Note: looks like some of the newer Matsutec AIS transceivers can interface with chart plotters, do your homework.

Seamonkey_H2024
VIC, 344 posts
7 May 2020 10:26AM
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Probably worth noting that you need a VHF certificate of proficiency to obtain obtain an MMSI number that you input into your transponder. If you haven't done so already it's a short course that teaches you some handy information, they even give you a book.

Wavesong
QLD, 145 posts
7 May 2020 6:00PM
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Hi SeaMonkey


Thanks for that. Another interesting piece of kit . Oh,for an endless money tree

I always wear a PLB and yep, know about the requirements for an MMSI. Did the VHF cert many, many moons ago so good to go in that respect.

I'm primarily concerned about the risk of collision rather than MOB.






dralyagmas
SA, 380 posts
8 May 2020 8:21AM
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I am removing this vesper class A reciver Can't even give it away! Not so sure what I'm going to fill the void with. What I'm finding it's best to use the wifi apps and have the units behind the cupboards now. Cost more but less wires and hassle free.



Does it work?
I have someone who will want it

southace
SA, 4776 posts
26 May 2020 7:20PM
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dralyagmas said..


I am removing this vesper class A reciver Can't even give it away! Not so sure what I'm going to fill the void with. What I'm finding it's best to use the wifi apps and have the units behind the cupboards now. Cost more but less wires and hassle free.




Does it work?
I have someone who will want it


Sorry just only seen this. Na sold it for $50!

southace
SA, 4776 posts
26 May 2020 7:22PM
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I have the vesper AIS on and working can someone explain how to get it onto navionics?

garymalmgren
1173 posts
26 May 2020 7:09PM
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I have nothing here in Japan. And I mean nothing.
Smaller fishing boats (under 50 tons) are what will get ya here and no one has even heard of AIS.
Um, BTW, no one has VHF yet.

gary

southace
SA, 4776 posts
26 May 2020 8:48PM
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garymalmgren said..
I have nothing here in Japan. And I mean nothing.
Smaller fishing boats (under 50 tons) are what will get ya here and no one has even heard of AIS.
Um, BTW, no one has VHF yet.

gary


Really I thought Japanese love a bit of technology !

garymalmgren
1173 posts
26 May 2020 7:51PM
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They love licenses and qualifications.
When I got my Japanese A class marine license 4 years ago ($ 1,500 and six days off work.)
There was not one question on GPS or VHS. Lots on nets and correct signal shapes. (Cones, balls, and cylinders)

I asked the (75 year old) instructor about this. He loved to talk and after more than 50 years at sea had his share of stories.
There is no Leisure boating in Japan.
You take a professional qualification or nothing.
Think about that. The simplest license is $800 and that is what you need to ride a jetski. The test involves coastal navigation, weather prediction and Radar navigation.

VHF is covered by the general marine radio license. Where you have to learn morse code at a certain rate. I forgot the cost, but it isn't peanuts. So no one bothers with equipment because of the licensing.
You probably need a marine radio license to even fit an AIS.

In Japan they have a system called descending from heaven.
When a senior bureaucrat retires at 60 he is moved into a well paid position ( around $300,000 per year ) in a statutory department that he has absolutely no knowledge of.
Someone with a background in chemical pollution would become the big cheese at the Marine license department.
Now, he will turn up at work two days a week at most.
And if any underling was to enter his office and suggest the there is a new system called AIS and it should be incorporated into marine safety. That bod would be transferred to the boonies. So every one just keeps their head down and does what their grandfather had done.

Same sex marriage will never happen here, Not relevant but an example of social sclerosis.


gary



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