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Anchoring hardware

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Created by FolkboatM26 > 9 months ago, 1 Feb 2016
whiteout
QLD, 264 posts
5 Feb 2016 2:52PM
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In my little old folkboat I had an anchor locker see up forward photo the ply hatch held a 30m of chain and 50m of rope feed thru the deck chain access pipe to the 10kg Mason anchor. I have a back-up plough 20kg. I have attached some photos of my old home which I lived on for 6 years.

ChopesBro
350 posts
5 Feb 2016 10:56PM
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Beautiful boat!

Im wondering. ...is it worth having two anchors?

Buying chain tomorrow. ..10 mm...25 metres.

Also thinking about a 22kg plough anchor .

Totally overkill. ...but how nice to sleep at night

Ive been lucky so far....and only because I live on her and could move her b4 she pulled anchor onto a reef

ChopesBro
350 posts
6 Feb 2016 7:13PM
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Ok....some research ive done.

I need a quiver of anchors. ..and a lot $$$$ chain

I kinda came too Be with chopes and bro

It wasnt a planned decision

Ive sailed when I was younger. And lived much my adult life fishing around a river or out side reefs.

So....it was kinda natural when I needed a boat for access to reef surfing and my lease was up ( lets not talk about visas)

And I found a battle worn boat in tahiti.

Well. . Someone has to do it

I can buy a fortresses with rope and chain

On tick

Its a 16 model

500neuro

theselkie
QLD, 555 posts
7 Feb 2016 12:53PM
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Hello ChopesBro

what type of boat do you have? Length? Weight? My apologies if you've said somewhere before, however, I just can't recall reading anything

Personally, I think it only prudent to have more than one anchor aboard. I've not had this particular boat that long and have only started sailing her in the last few months. In that time I have only had occasion to use the anchor on an overnighter over to Moreton in the Xmas hols. She came with the plough that I now keep on the bow roller; plus a reasonable weight Danforth which I stow aft in the lazarette.

Money is EXTREMELY tight in my household so, when it comes to things for the boat (and everything else), I need to be sure I NEED something, rather than WANT it. I've learnt the art of prioritisation and delayed gratification . I don't cut corners where it comes to safety, though.

I needed to replace the anchor chain as it was dead. There was never a doubt in my mind over length...a minimum of 10 metres. I can add to that as funds become available and as my needs change. At present, I can't stray further from Moreton Bay.

I wouldn't say I'm completely happy with the selection of anchors aboard. The plough worked fine in sand over at Moreton, however, I don't hold much hope of it holding in somewhere like Pumicestone Passage at Bribie Island. I grew up dragging anchor in that bloody place before the advent of anchors like the Manson Supreme et al. As I mentioned, I had a Manson Supreme on my previous boat and it worked very well. Eventually, I'll buy Aria the same.

My point is, after much ado, to me at least, it's discerning need over want and staying safe, enabling me to continue to do what I love doing

ChopesBro
350 posts
9 Feb 2016 11:06AM
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G'day theslike.
Its a 26 ft yacht. ..made local, backyard model in 1986.

Its a brilliant boat...I may be bias

I totally get what your saying about $$ and priorities.

Its nice to read im not the only one on this forum who is tight for a dollar

As my girls always in the blue and is my home and business and only real love....I had to get another anchor.

My safety. My partner and guests safety..her ( the best boat) safety. ..and on the odd occasion we share a lagoon with others...it counts towards other ppls boats being safe as well.
We dragged the plough anchor several times.
I have ended up with a copycat roncia anchor made local.

Its not in anyway as good as a original. ..lacks the concave but cost $250 euro...and im supporting local business

I basically have a anchor that is three sizes to big for the boat and doesn't fit anywhere that I couldn't really afford.

But...I now have insurance.

The plough is still my every day anchor.

But when sitting tight for a few days...the big boy goes out and I can sleep well knowing ....we aren't dragging.

I think your spot on...buying what you need and will use.

I didn't want to spend this coin...indeed I made a captain call and my minister of love ,war and finance isn't impressed

FolkboatM26
23 posts
15 Feb 2016 8:58AM
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Hi All,

Finally got down to boat on the weekend to clean out anchor locker and install rode...... and have a few photos....

Ended up with around 8m of 8mm chain with 50m 12mm nylon. Learnt how to eye splice last week so quite pleased with myself.
Bought a fortress FX11 which according to manufacturer and Whitworths is designed for an 8-10m boat..... however (and I suspected this would be the case) it won't fit in the locker - see below photo of shank in locker. So - now have new rode connected to old danforth (c5-6kg) which should be good enough for the lunchtime pick.
Fortress is going to have to live aboard and come out for special occasions - such as overnighting, and get connected up to rode before venturing out. This is most likely going to mean mousing the shackle with some chunky cable ties (as opposed to wire.... controversial...), for ease of use. Seems this is the best outcome - thoughts?

Still got some tidying up with rode - need shackle to tie up bitter end (now I know where this expression comes from), also eye splice needs some lighter cord to wrap around spliced section to ensure doesn't jump off the eyelet. Any suggestions for what to use here??

Cheers.

Ramona
NSW, 7490 posts
15 Feb 2016 7:04PM
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Use a couple of electrical ties to hold the splice to the thimble if required. To change anchors a stainless shackle is best and make up a fixed spanner in SS to tighten pin. Bit of Flat 6mm bar and cut a notch with a mini grinder will do. If your anchoring for a couple of days you wont need mousing.

Karsten
NSW, 331 posts
15 Feb 2016 9:43PM
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Beautifully concise, practical tips Ramona.

FreeRadical
WA, 855 posts
15 Feb 2016 8:48PM
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Why is mousing a shackle with a cable tie controversial?

slammin
QLD, 991 posts
16 Feb 2016 5:53AM
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Cable ties ain't cable ties. I know I have some that have been in the sun 6mths and they break like a little twig. Others have stood up quite well to the elements. The gal wire on my anchor shackle has outlast both types.

Ramona
NSW, 7490 posts
16 Feb 2016 7:59AM
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I use quality cable ties on my mooring shackles. The ones you buy from electrical supply shops sometimes have the breaking strain on them, the 8mm wide ones is something like 52 kilos. The ones holding the abrasion cover on my mooring riser have been in the sun for two or three years and look new.

Datawiz
VIC, 605 posts
16 Feb 2016 8:43AM
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Select to expand quote
slammin said..
Cable ties ain't cable ties. I know I have some that have been in the sun 6mths and they break like a little twig. Others have stood up quite well to the elements. The gal wire on my anchor shackle has outlast both types.


Hi slammin,
In case you didn't know, white cable ties are notorious for breaking down in sunlight.
In another life, I used large numbers of black cable ties on equipment installed permanently outdoors with no degradation after more than 10 years.
regards,
allan



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