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It is perfect for kids and can take 3 adults on a calm day. With two adults aboard, I sit one in the bow and row while seated on the stern seat. I find it rows very well with 7' oars and I have been for 2-3 km outings around Pittwater. The sail kit and inflatable collar would be nice to have but as a simple tender, it is fine.
The WB 10 is certainly a lot roomier and better if you have exposed water to cross or regular passengers. At $400 it would be a steal if it's in fair to good condition. The 'wheel in the keel' in the WB 10 is bigger and better engineered than the WB 8 wheel but the spare parts are available and they are both easily rebuilt.
Hi Gravy7.
So you row from the stern pushing the oars when two up?? That would be a bit awkward wouldn't it??
I notice you do not have WB oars or rowlocks.
I have the WB oars which have captured rowlocks and clip on blades which when removed make them a lot easier to have in the car.
For rowing two or three up I have been considering adding pintles about where your hand is on the gunwale.
Yes the keel wheel on the 8 is not very useful except on hard surfaces. Mine broke into three pieces so I had a new one turned up from bearing plastic at a local machine shop for $20.
The wide flat bottom and low freeboard make them a bit unsafe in choppy waters but as a "work truck" in port it is great. Almost indestructible. Mine fits well on the fore deck of my Lotus 9.2 as I have no inner forestays and with the transom tied back against the mast base I still have adequate room to work on the foredeck and deploy the anchor.
I have had davits before and I think they are only useful on larger yachts. Fortunately I also have an Avon Redcrest for cruising. If I was cruising with 4 on board I think I would take the WB as well.
ItHG02 said..Jode5 said..
HG02 said..
h28kurt said..
they look good hg maybe if funds allow in the future ill get something similar. I had a quote for a stainless bow sprit last year and it shocked me 
I was just curious about the hard floor inflatables because I've been considering them but I think I would struggle setting it up on the deck
found these photos in boat sales notice the davits Kurt
Two tubes bent to under 90 degrees ( you could get them bent as a exhaust place) and then each tube has two straight stainless tubes holding the outer end probably with clamps off the stern rails . I have a feeling Eeros boat Colombo may have had some thing similar
once the two tubes are bent find some one to weld the bases for mounting off the stern buy the base material and make your own then its just a Weld job
Your cant have blokes like Jode 5 Making to much money 
The plus with this boat hes fitted solar shade. Just the same you would have to see it to know if it looked ok
I need to make money to pay for my bad sailing habit. 
just thought Id give you a bump
MMM kurt maybe we could get a few ideas of Jode5 on , what to do with our davits on a small boats
shouldn't be too hard to rig up a lifting strop for use with whisker pole and halyard to get it on deck but they are light enough for two people to drag up on deck with a bit of co-ordination.
Hi HG, To be honest I am not a great lover of davits on any mono hull (OK on cats) whether their on a modern or a classic boat. They just look ugly, and take away from the boat, just look at the boat above it look like a Taiwanese fishing boat from the rear. If there is a way to get the dingy on the bow there are a lot of advantages.
If I was to fit davits I would not make them with tube. I would fabricate them out of stainless box section and make them tapered and have all the ropes internal. By doing it this way they are stronger, lighter and look a lot better. Unfortunately more expensive. Sorry I can't be more help.
What Id like is davits that could be removable .
Let say when sailing for a few days or longer deflate the inflatable and remove the davits and refit when your at anchor and just day sailing and use for short day sails
Select to expand quoteHG02 said..
What Id like is davits that could be removable .
Let say when sailing for a few days or longer deflate the inflatable and remove the davits and refit when your at anchor and just day sailing and use for short day sails
+1. Something like these babies perhaps?
Hi all
Thanks for all the information and thoughts but i decided to give the Walker Bay a miss and stay with the Tern for the time being
Found this little interesting plastic dinghy for sale on Gumtree though http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/dodges-ferry/tinnies-dinghies/dinghy-mac-270/1103419886
Not looking at buying it but it should be stable, carry a bit of a load and be kind to the topsides
Regards Don
Hi HG
I like the inflatable style hull but after getting multiple cuts on my Achillies hypalon inflatable on the oyster shells when i used to use it here i decided to go with something tougher and that is why i bought the alloy Tern
The problem is that a 2.7 long inflatable style hull but would have a lot less room inside that a 2.7 conventional dinghy and at 60kg it is getting up a bit weight wise
Regards Don
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Hi HG
I like the inflatable style hull but after getting multiple cuts on my Achillies hypalon inflatable on the oyster shells when i used to use it here i decided to go with something tougher and that is why i bought the alloy Tern
The problem is that a 2.7 long inflatable style hull but would have a lot less room inside that a 2.7 conventional dinghy and at 60kg it is getting up a bit weight wise
Regards Don
They look very stable Donk for a small boat like mine 60 Kg as I get older would be hard to lift on board.
I dearly love to make a nice light weight dingy out of carbon fiber with a stuff bottom. I guess there to expensive to manufacture .
Maybe have a go at stitch and glue light weight one day .
I don't want the issue of hard dingy hitting the walker when its finish and look out any stink boat that run into her 
That savage tern you have is a good tender
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That savage tern you have is a good tender
A good Savage Tern is a collector's item as I have said to you a while ago Donk.
Rounded bow, adequate freeboard, alloy construction and only 8 ft long. Yours has foam fender strips. What else do you want??
The Tern is an excellent work truck for in port but if you want something to carry for cruising more than a weekend I suggest you get a Zodiac 2.6 or 2.8. Now notice I said "Zodiac". Not Island Inflateable or any other brand.
"Zodiac" is the only one to buy. There are heaps of them on Gumtree.
Cheers Cisco.
cisco i know nothing about the inflatables so would you elaborate on the major differences
Type of material ?
Thickness ?
design ?
quality of manufacture ???
I am interested in one as my sabot is ok for home port but not for cruising elsewhere
some of the zodiacs on gumtree could be quite old is that important ?
Some zodiacs are made with a material called
Hyaphon maybe the spelling is wrong
But these day zodiac seem to offer both
The Chinese and the cheap inflatables
Are made of other material eg pvc and other elaborate names but can't and won't last because of uv rays unlike the hyaphon material the the more expensive zodiac are made from
A lot of companies when advertising say zodiac inflatable for sale but there not
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Gravy7 said..
It is perfect for kids and can take 3 adults on a calm day. With two adults aboard, I sit one in the bow and row while seated on the stern seat. I find it rows very well with 7' oars and I have been for 2-3 km outings around Pittwater. The sail kit and inflatable collar would be nice to have but as a simple tender, it is fine.
The WB 10 is certainly a lot roomier and better if you have exposed water to cross or regular passengers. At $400 it would be a steal if it's in fair to good condition. The 'wheel in the keel' in the WB 10 is bigger and better engineered than the WB 8 wheel but the spare parts are available and they are both easily rebuilt.
Hi Gravy7.
So you row from the stern pushing the oars when two up?? That would be a bit awkward wouldn't it??
I notice you do not have WB oars or rowlocks.
I have the WB oars which have captured rowlocks and clip on blades which when removed make them a lot easier to have in the car.
For rowing two or three up I have been considering adding pintles about where your hand is on the gunwale.
Yes the keel wheel on the 8 is not very useful except on hard surfaces. Mine broke into three pieces so I had a new one turned up from bearing plastic at a local machine shop for $20.
The wide flat bottom and low freeboard make them a bit unsafe in choppy waters but as a "work truck" in port it is great. Almost indestructible. Mine fits well on the fore deck of my Lotus 9.2 as I have no inner forestays and with the transom tied back against the mast base I still have adequate room to work on the foredeck and deploy the anchor.
I have had davits before and I think they are only useful on larger yachts. Fortunately I also have an Avon Redcrest for cruising. If I was cruising with 4 on board I think I would take the WB as well.
It shouldn't be too hard to rig up a lifting strop for use with whisker pole and halyard to get it on deck but they are light enough for two people to drag up on deck with a bit of co-ordination.
Hi Cisco,
Yes, rowing from the stern and pushing would be awkward so I row stern first. Works fine in flat water.
My WB 8 was so cheap it came without oars so I bought some from Whitworths with plastic rowlocks that fit perfectly and stay clipped on to the oars when you lift them out. Cheaper than WB spares I'm sure and more effective if you buy nice long 7' oars.
Your idea for rowing from the bow seat is a good one. Please post some photos if you decide to go ahead with the new pintle location. But only if it's successful!
And I agree about davits vs deck storage. I have a nice sturdy whisker pole which I will try as a crane jib one day. I think if you used a 3 point harness and lifted from the mast step and with two hooks either side of the outboard bracket it would be nice and stable to lift.
Back on topic despite Donk's abandonment of his bargain Walker Bay 10:
There is an extensive discussion of Walker Bay 10s on Cruising Anarchy at forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?/topic/169246-would-anyone-like-to-sing-the-praises-of-a-walker-bay/
If you scroll towards the latest posts there is some interesting material from a Francesco Lenzi in Italy who waxes lyrical about his WB 10 and he certainly gets around in it!
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Yes Cisco.....and explain the difference between 'Zodiac' and 'Zodiac style'.
People tend to call any inflatable a Zodiac.
Zodiac is a French Brand and I believe the best quality of manufacture available.
Other's opinions might differ but that is mine.
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Hi Cisco,
Yes, rowing from the stern and pushing would be awkward so I row stern first. Works fine in flat water.
My WB 8 was so cheap it came without oars so I bought some from Whitworths with plastic rowlocks that fit perfectly and stay clipped on to the oars when you lift them out. Cheaper than WB spares I'm sure and more effective if you buy nice long 7' oars.
Your idea for rowing from the bow seat is a good one. Please post some photos if you decide to go ahead with the new pintle location. But only if it's successful!
And I agree about davits vs deck storage. I have a nice sturdy whisker pole which I will try as a crane jib one day. I think if you used a 3 point harness and lifted from the mast step and with two hooks either side of the outboard bracket it would be nice and stable to lift.
Thanks for your response Gravy7.
You row stern first???? Sounds like a lot of work to me!!! 
I will be putting fwd pintles on my WB 8 but that job is low on "The List". When it does happen be sure that I will post pics and even a vid.
I have an Aquapro SLR 710 2.4 m RIB, they are made in NZ and so far has done very well and seems well made, it weighs 29 kg, is rated for 270 kg payload and easily carries 3 people to the boat on a day sail, if we have gear we make 2 trips. The only rowing I have done in it was in circles around my dam otherwise I have a nice little Yamaha 2 hp which does the job although may need to upsize when I move the boat to the mooring 1.5 km away from the boat ramp.
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The two stroke Yamaha 4 and 5 hp are both 21 kg whereas the 2 hp is 10 kg and really nice to manage and I am happy to leave it on the dinghy when I lift it up on the davits. Yes davits on a 33 footer, but with my wheel steering, self furler and centre cockpit I am already a big cruiser wannabee and beyond redemption! The davits are fairly lightweight but seem well made and are very rigid. if I went to a bigger motor was thinking that I could use the davit to lift the motor up and mount it on the rail before lifting the dinghy.
Does anyone what loads this sort of davit can take? It already has 3 solar panels on top but most of their weight is forward of the stern. I imagine the biggest risk is when you get pooped by a big wave?
we build a traditional lightweight tender (16kg) in carbon with timber gunwales which rows very well sails and carries an outboard she is designed to tow well (tucked Stern ) this limits planing ability but improves load carrying capacity and easily carries 3 and will carry 5 www.deagonslipways.com.au/dinghy.html
Nice tender what length is she and also the gaff rig mast length would be nice to know
To me a 2 or 3 hp out board I would suit my requirements but if the gaff rig was short enough to store on board why would you
all spars fit in the dingy which is 8 feet i carry the dingy upside down on the foredeck at sea with spars and oars inside and tow the tender while on Moreton bay as she tracks superbly and have happily towed her in 35 knots while doing 10 to 12 knots the big plus though is the weight as i can easily pick her up with one hand a 2 hp is ample power and a friend uses a torqueedo electric which works well
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you've got a full time job there HG rotating images
Hi Crusty
that's a seriously nice looking dingy, but if I left that on the mooring even for a day sail, it wouldn't be there when I got back.
Select to expand quotecrustysailor said...
that's a seriously nice looking dingy, but if I left that on the mooring even for a day sail, it wouldn't be there when I got back.
Yes it is a great tender the only thing is like to add is some thing soft so my paint job on my boat does not get mark that would not take the lines away from that tender
cedar huon gunwale has a 10 mm foam rubber inserted into 12 mm braid core removed im not going to mark my nice timber topsides either
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cedar huon gunwale has a 10 mm foam rubber inserted into 12 mm braid core removed im not going to mark my nice timber topsides either
