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Barlow winches.

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Created by samsturdy > 9 months ago, 28 May 2016
samsturdy
NSW, 1659 posts
28 May 2016 1:05PM
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Now I've painted my boat it's made the winches look terrible, so I want to
re-chrome them. How do I get the drums off ??.

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
28 May 2016 1:48PM
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HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
28 May 2016 1:49PM
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maybe electro plate

samsturdy
NSW, 1659 posts
28 May 2016 2:45PM
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Thanks HG. There's some local company that re-chromes them, I've just got to get them off.
Thanks for the vid. just the job.

fishmonkey
NSW, 494 posts
28 May 2016 3:00PM
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there is also a whole lot of service and manuals available here:

l-36.com/winches.php

LooseChange
NSW, 2140 posts
28 May 2016 3:31PM
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Barlow are a copy of a Barient, this may be of help along with fishmonkey posted.

www.huttonwinches.com/products/service

While you have the winches apart it may also be a good idea to give them a good inspection for other things that might be needed, Hutton keep a supply of Barlow parts.

samsturdy
NSW, 1659 posts
28 May 2016 4:38PM
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Thanks for the info guys. LC, Huttons are where exactly?. I've not heard of them.

Crusoe
QLD, 1192 posts
28 May 2016 5:34PM
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THE AUSTRALIAN YACHT WINCH PTY. LTD.
PO Box 401
Galston N.S.W. 2159 Australia
Phone: +61 2 9653 2111
Fax: +61 2 9653 3119
Email: sales@huttonwinches.com

LooseChange
NSW, 2140 posts
28 May 2016 7:16PM
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Crusoe said..
THE AUSTRALIAN YACHT WINCH PTY. LTD.
PO Box 401
Galston N.S.W. 2159 Australia
Phone: +61 2 9653 2111
Fax: +61 2 9653 3119
Email: sales@huttonwinches.com


What he said ....

samsturdy
NSW, 1659 posts
29 May 2016 9:13AM
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Righto.....thanks guys.

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
29 May 2016 12:07PM
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I found a web site in USA the other day they makes and sell self taylors to add the top of winch cant find it right now reto fitted to barrient and others
Not the rubber style but proper s/s add on units

cisco
QLD, 12321 posts
29 May 2016 12:33PM
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For your yacht Sam a pair of Anderson ST 28 winches should be ideal. For my money the best you can buy. Full retail around $1,100 each but shop around ebay, Gumtree etc you should be able to do much better.

Even second hand Andersons will be better than most other brands and converting old Barlow/Barients to self tailing will most likely cost more than they are worth.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Pair-ARCO-2-Speed-Self-Tailing-Sheet-Winches-For-Yacht-Sailboat-/182133268402?hash=item2a67fd1fb2:g:1KQAAOSwt7pXOS1P

This is a bargain.

www.ebay.com.au/itm/Yacht-Winch-Anderson-40ST-Never-used-still-in-original-box-/172221049617?hash=item28192cab11:g:8ScAAOSw1DtXK6Ub

After an experience I had I would never buy a Lewmar winch.

samsturdy
NSW, 1659 posts
29 May 2016 1:01PM
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Good work HG and Cisco. Missus and I always sail together but even so we find our 150% headsail
a bit of a handful when tacking. So we've taken to reefing the headsail to 100% most days and that has
proved to be so much easier and I don't see the need for self tailers.
The winches I want rechromed are ones I don't use (spinnaker etc). I just want to finish the boat off
nicely and so.......well....you know.

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
31 May 2016 11:57AM
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samsturdy said...

Good work HG and Cisco. Missus and I always sail together but even so we find our 150% headsail
a bit of a handful when tacking. So we've taken to reefing the headsail to 100% most days and that has
proved to be so much easier and I don't see the need for self tailers.
The winches I want rechromed are ones I don't use (spinnaker etc). I just want to finish the boat off
nicely and so.......well....you know.

I've only have one pair on mine at the moment
there non tailers Sam
Most of my sailing will be solo so I'm trying to make it a little easier plus a bit of forward thinking as I age

dkd
SA, 131 posts
31 May 2016 2:06PM
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I love my Andersen self-tailing winches ..... only Barlows left are halyard winches, the rest of the Barlows are in the shed somewhere


HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
31 May 2016 2:53PM
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dkd said...


I love my Andersen self-tailing winches ..... only Barlows left are halyard winches, the rest of the Barlows are in the shed somewhere





Are the barlows self tailers I guess not

dkd
SA, 131 posts
31 May 2016 5:14PM
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Unfortunately not .... guess they will make good paperweights, they are heavier enough

MorningBird
NSW, 2654 posts
31 May 2016 9:43PM
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I have Barlow self trailers on the halyards and heady sheets. A pair of Barlow non self trailers for the secondary sheets winches.
Hardy, rarely get serviced, never been a problem.
I bought the secondary sheet winches from Hutton, he gave me good advice and a fair deal. However, a mate took their advice and bought smaller sheet winches for his S&S34 and is very disappointed.
I think it pays to know what you want/need to take the right advice.

twodogs1969
NSW, 1000 posts
31 May 2016 11:18PM
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I have Barlow 25st as main winches at over 30 years old they are still going great. What's wrong with Barlow winches?

samsturdy
NSW, 1659 posts
1 Jun 2016 9:45AM
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There's nothing wrong with Barlow's. I just want to get mine re chromed. The headsail
winches are 24's.
It appears that there are not as many chrome plating works as I thought there might
be. A couple of calls have told me it can be quite an expensive excercise.
The original question was 'how do I take the drums off' seems that you would know
that dkd. Any tips??.

fishmonkey
NSW, 494 posts
1 Jun 2016 10:09AM
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the dismantling tools are described here:

www.arco-winches.com/products/service

samsturdy
NSW, 1659 posts
1 Jun 2016 11:02AM
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fishmonkey said..
the dismantling tools are described here:

www.arco-winches.com/products/service


Thanks Fishy. Allen keys I've got by the dozen. I guess I can stop the winch from turning
with one of those filter remover things. I'll give it a go.

twodogs1969
NSW, 1000 posts
1 Jun 2016 11:51AM
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LooseChange
NSW, 2140 posts
1 Jun 2016 1:16PM
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Sam, getting anything chrome plated these days is very difficult. Not many places left that can do it and even fewer around that will do a good job, all to with the EPA and toxic chemicals involved.

Most of the rubbish that you see these days is duplex chroming where they don't nickel plate before chrome plating the article. They will tell you it's a better system, the reality is it's a cheaper system and more margin for them.

Pine River Electroplaters in Qld. used to be tops, but the business is now in the hands of someone else, they take your parts and then you have to fight to get them back.

Maybe get on to some of the Street Machine forums to find who is doing good work these days at a price that won't make your eyes water.

GKandCC
NSW, 218 posts
1 Jun 2016 1:47PM
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Sam
I used to work with a teacher whose husband's business re-built and re-chromed hydraulic rams (pistons) somewhere in Sydney, this may be an avenue to explore.
Greg

Agent nods
622 posts
1 Jun 2016 11:57AM
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There are some powder coatings that are hard wearing.....and metal powder applications that are extremely hard wearing - cost???

samsturdy
NSW, 1659 posts
1 Jun 2016 4:31PM
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Doing a bit more research has revealed that there are 'agents' that you drop off the part to and
they send it off to whoever.
There's a local one at the commercial complex on the corner of Forest Way and Mona Vale Rd.
They give a price per size and my winches fall into the $30 or $50 per item bracket, which seems
doable price wise. I've got five winches of various sizes, the biggest ones are 24s. But as LC has
said, it may not be a good job.

LooseChange
NSW, 2140 posts
1 Jun 2016 10:12PM
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GKandCC said..
Sam
I used to work with a teacher whose husband's business re-built and re-chromed hydraulic rams (pistons) somewhere in Sydney, this may be an avenue to explore.
Greg



Hydraulic rams are hard chrome plated and have nothing in common with decorative chrome plating like what Sam wants.

I still tend to lean towards the Street machine boys or the Hot Rodders, they only want the best for their toys. They would know who offers quality at a price.



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