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GPS Speedo and compass

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Created by Donk107 > 9 months ago, 8 May 2015
Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
8 May 2015 8:39PM
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Hi all

A mate of mine has just ordered a GPS speedo/compass for his Elliott 7.8

Just wondering if anyone has one http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/GPS-SPEEDOMETER-GAUGE-55kph-30Knots-WHITE-CHROME-85MM-BOAT-MARINE-12V-24V-/311256433864 and what do you think of it


Regards Don

frant
VIC, 1230 posts
9 May 2015 11:53AM
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Don't know why you would buy a piece of junk like that instead of a velocitek or similar sail specific instrument.

Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
9 May 2015 1:42PM
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Don't know why you would buy a piece of junk like that instead of a velocitek or similar sail specific instrument.


Hi Frant

I think that the price was attractive and the fact that he had a hole that size that he wanted to fill

The boat has tacktick speed and depth instruments already and this is a extra

Regards Don

Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
9 May 2015 2:04PM
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On the subject something like this www.australiangeographic.com.au/shop/ is $330 whereas a Tactick wireless wind speed and direction setup is around $1600

Asthee a marked difference in quality or does the marine specific brand mean it is much more expensive

Regards Don

CoolRunnings
NSW, 159 posts
9 May 2015 2:16PM
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Donk107 said..
Hi allA mate of mine has just ordered a GPS speedo/compass for his Elliott 7.8
Just wondering if anyone has one http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/GPS-SPEEDOMETER-GAUGE-55kph-30Knots-WHITE-CHROME-85MM-BOAT-MARINE-12V-24V-/311256433864 and what do you think of it
Regards Don



Umm are you serious or just giving us all a wind up?

Perhaps you are looking at going back to the future and need something to find out when it hits 88MPH or is there a bigblock chev under the companionway!

Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
9 May 2015 2:54PM
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CoolRunnings said..

Donk107 said..
Hi allA mate of mine has just ordered a GPS speedo/compass for his Elliott 7.8
Just wondering if anyone has one http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/GPS-SPEEDOMETER-GAUGE-55kph-30Knots-WHITE-CHROME-85MM-BOAT-MARINE-12V-24V-/311256433864 and what do you think of it
Regards Don




Umm are you serious or just giving us all a wind up?

Perhaps you are looking at going back to the future and need something to find out when it hits 88MPH or is there a bigblock chev under the companionway!


Hi Coolrunnings

i don't really understand what you are saying ?

regards Don

cisco
QLD, 12337 posts
9 May 2015 9:57PM
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Donk107 said..
Hi all

A mate of mine has just ordered a GPS speedo/compass for his Elliott 7.8

Just wondering if anyone has one http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/GPS-SPEEDOMETER-GAUGE-55kph-30Knots-WHITE-CHROME-85MM-BOAT-MARINE-12V-24V-/311256433864 and what do you think of it


Regards Don


I reckon it is a good toy if it has it's own GPS receiver/antenna for $100. What you might call a "Fun Gauge".

Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
9 May 2015 10:52PM
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I still don't understand Coolrunnings comment

Can anyone clarify it for me

Regards Don

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
9 May 2015 11:19PM
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Donk107 said..
I still don't understand Coolrunnings comment

Can anyone clarify it for me

Regards Don


Its a little bit like my VDO temp gauge I think he means Donk
The VDO gauge reads 40 to 120 degrees C but my motor operated at 45 C so there not much use having a gauge to read 5 degrees C
In the GPS speedo it operates a 0 to 30 knots would be more suited to a speed boat or a bettr solution might be if the fascia read to say 0 to 15 knots

Donk107
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9 May 2015 11:26PM
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Donk107 said..
I still don't understand Coolrunnings comment

Can anyone clarify it for me

Regards Don




Its a little bit like my VDO temp gauge I think he means Donk
The VDO gauge reads 40 to 120 degrees C but my motor operated at 45 C so there not much use having a gauge to read 5 degrees C
In the GPS speedo it operates a 0 to 30 knots would be more suited to a speed boat or a bettr solution might be if the fascia read to say 0 to 15 knots



Hi HG

The Elliott 7.8's are a sports boat and are pretty quick and the one he has ( Another Girl Another Planet ) in the hands of the previous owner was clocked at around 22 knots downwind on the plane so the 0 to 30 scale is appropriate in this case

Regards Don

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
9 May 2015 11:28PM
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Donk107 said..

HG02 said..


Donk107 said..
I still don't understand Coolrunnings comment

Can anyone clarify it for me

Regards Don




Its a little bit like my VDO temp gauge I think he means Donk
The VDO gauge reads 40 to 120 degrees C but my motor operated at 45 C so there not much use having a gauge to read 5 degrees C
In the GPS speedo it operates a 0 to 30 knots would be more suited to a speed boat or a bettr solution might be if the fascia read to say 0 to 15 knots



Hi HG

The Elliott 7.8's are a sports boat and are pretty quick and the one he has was clocked at around 22 knots downwind on the plane so the 0 to 30 scale is appropriate in this case

Regards Don



Bragger

Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
9 May 2015 11:36PM
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Hi HG

Here are the specs on the boat http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~noelmay/specs.html

The are a bit of a rocket in the right conditions as it only weighs 900kg and carries a lot of sail

These photos will give you a idea of what it is like


As






Regards Don

CoolRunnings
NSW, 159 posts
10 May 2015 1:00AM
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Okay Don, I am back here to explain.

My assumption is that you are considering buying one for your yacht as you were asking what we thought about that specific item.

Even on an Elliott and given they can get along fairly quick,realistically most would still want a gauge that clearly reads in increments of a knot.

This is so you can figure out as most would, whether you are making minute gains or losses.
For instance, going upwind in varying conditions or making sail adjustments, you want to know information in fractions of a knot.
This doesn't matter whether you are a cruiser or a racer as picking up say a third of one knot in boatspeed will mean big gains over the course of a whole day.

To my mind that type of instrument as shown here tells you little and I'll bet the read out would have quite a lot of error in it.
Anyway,if your mates are hitting 22 knots, the last thing they will be looking at is the speed dial on the boat. They maybe speed dialling later the local Laundromat and booking in the underwear for some cleaning.

As H.G. says, best left for a speedboat, hence my comment about the big block chev etc..

Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
10 May 2015 1:45AM
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Hi Coolrunnings

thanks for that explanation as I was a bit confused

Not looking at buying one for Aqua-Fare as 0 to 10 knots will be all she will ever need and a already have a cable driven VDO installed as shown in the pic below

I was just curious if anyone had one and what they thought of them

regards Don







cisco
QLD, 12337 posts
10 May 2015 1:40PM
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A VDO cable driven log????? Now that is a museum piece!!!

Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
10 May 2015 2:42PM
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A VDO cable driven log????? Now that is a museum piece!!!


Hi Cisco

It is a match to my sounder

regards Don





Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
10 May 2015 2:48PM
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And Casette player

the thing is everything is probably original 1984 stuff but it all still works

Regards Don





DrRog
NSW, 605 posts
10 May 2015 4:53PM
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Don, I have the same log, a similar depth sounder (though not advertised as a fish finder like yours!), and had a similar cassette player but stupidly replaced it with a more modern, lower-quality stereo that could take mp3 players.

The log is bothering me. Was working fine until haulout then wasn't working. I fixed the wiring until I got it working when I turned the wheel by hand but then when in the hull it wouldn't work. Except that then it did once and then didn't. Not sure what's wrong but it appears to be to do with the wheel itself not turning freely. I dived down and checked that the wheel still protrudes from the hull. I was quite happy with it when working - just a bit of a hassle mopping up the water when changing over 'plugs'.

Depth sounder (Seafarer 5) is fine but a bit finicky, needing adjustment between shallow and deep modes (the 'metric') but also fine tuning the gain at times within those bands.

Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
10 May 2015 7:33PM
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Hi DrRog

i think that our logs are operated differently because from your description it sounds like yours is operated by electrical impulses from the paddle wheel

My log is mechanical and has a drive cable that connects to a small propeller with a fin in front of it that sits beside the rear of the keel and spins with the flow of water past it

It has 12 volt wiring to the head unit but that is only for illumination at night

With my sounder once the gain is initially set after turning it on it seems to look after itself

Regards Don


HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
10 May 2015 7:41PM
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Donk107 said..
Hi DrRog

i think that our logs are operated differently because from your description it sounds like yours is operated by electrical impulses from the paddle wheel

My log is mechanical and has a drive cable that connects to a small propeller that sits beside the rear of the keel and spins with the flow of water past it

It has 12 volt wiring to the head unit but that is only for illumination at night

With my sounder once the gain is initially set after turning it on it seems to look after itself

Regards Don





Thats your axillary out board Donk have a look inone of your lockers they will be some pedals some where

Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
10 May 2015 7:59PM
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Donk107 said..
Hi DrRog

i think that our logs are operated differently because from your description it sounds like yours is operated by electrical impulses from the paddle wheel

My log is mechanical and has a drive cable that connects to a small propeller that sits beside the rear of the keel and spins with the flow of water past it

It has 12 volt wiring to the head unit but that is only for illumination at night

With my sounder once the gain is initially set after turning it on it seems to look after itself

Regards Don






Thats your axillary out board Donk have a look inone of your lockers they will be some pedals some where


Thanks for that HG I will have a look for them when I next go out to the boat

On a serious note I had the boat for about 12 months before I bothered to look under some buckets in the bow infrontin of the toilet under the anchor well and found a danforth anchor I never knew I had

There was a article in a PBO magazine where the writer said he felt sorry for people who bought new boats because they knew exactly what they were getting whereas with a second hand boat you can discover all sorts of interesting stuff tucked away in lockers

Regards Don

Donk107
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10 May 2015 9:49PM
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This is what is on the outside of the hull to drive the log

regards Don





HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
10 May 2015 10:19PM
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This is what is on the outside of the hull to drive the log

regards Don






Id be looking for the pedals then Donk

Donk107
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10 May 2015 10:23PM
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Donk107 said..
This is what is on the outside of the hull to drive the log

regards Don






Id be looking for the pedals then Donk


If I can't find the pedals i could always remove the cable from the back of the log and drive the prop with a cordless drill

Regards Don



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