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Kero piping for stove fitting question

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Created by HG02 > 9 months ago, 27 Apr 2015
HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
27 Apr 2015 9:17PM
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I would like to locate the kero tank for my stove on the other side of the cabin. I can either take it the copper tube over the cabin roof under my cedar strips which I feel is safer ( it will be enclosed in a soft hose or foam ) or across in the bilge which I'm not really happy about, It will also have a on off tap next to the tank to shut the fuel pressure off'

What safer?




cisco
QLD, 12351 posts
27 Apr 2015 9:32PM
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It will be safer and certainly more practical to have the tank as close to the stove as possible. Why are you complicating something that is so simple HG?????

whiteout
QLD, 265 posts
27 Apr 2015 9:41PM
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as close to the stove as possible you can is imperative to allow the kero to feed the stove or you will not have the pressure to supply the kero to the stove.

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
27 Apr 2015 10:14PM
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cisco said..

It will be safer and certainly more practical to have the tank as close to the stove as possible. Why are you complicating something that is so simple HG?????


Finding room on a 30 foot boat for one. The other thought was the safety keeping the fuel away from the stove. I seen threads on some UK sites where the tanks been fitted in the cockpit storage lock but dont want to do that.
I was thinking of locating the tank on the head wall above the fridges

a cedar wall roughly going from the post in the photo to across between the two port lights , My thoughts were to fit the tank around the bottom of the port lights as far as height goes and run the cooper tubing across over the roof to the stove probably fitting two turn off taps one near the tank and one near the stove.
The pump will be below the tank to pressurize the tank to run the kero arcoss to the stove over the roof in a way this will give me a siphon effect.





HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
27 Apr 2015 10:26PM
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The above is an example my pump is separate and is connected by a hose to the tank so it can be located below for easier use

I can also get some one wire hose (high pressure) donated by a contractor( used for auto greasing) which i could run over the cabin roof in stead of the copper tube

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
27 Apr 2015 11:30PM
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The other problem is Identifying the tank part the manual that can with the stove and any info is very limited so I believe the the following parts are the pressure relief valve
first photo the three parts of the velve

the tubing has a jet inside it Im thining iot assits in reducing the pressure flow for the relief valve

the assemble valve the clylindical part is movable when assemble to me its like a old pressure cooker relief valve with cylindrical part acting as a weighted valve


What concerns me with this assemble why would it have a tube with a length that would reach the bottom of the kero tank???


HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
27 Apr 2015 11:37PM
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On the top of the tank I have four ports



The larger port to the left of the gauge I believe is the pump hose connection inside it has a one way valve ( Ive removed and clean it )












HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
27 Apr 2015 11:46PM
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I believe this fitting is the inlet to the stove


As you can see the relief valve assemble is the same length as the the inlet for the stove








I still have to remove the jet and clean both the tube and the jet






But I'm wondering why you would have a jet to the stove inlet piping ? why would you reduce the flow and pressure to the stove
My guess would be the stove runs on vapor so it doesn't need large amounts of fuel to run?
I have read one burner uses .02 lite of fuel an hour in the manual

southace
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27 Apr 2015 11:24PM
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Just one word ho2. ......KISS keep it simple stupid

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
28 Apr 2015 12:02AM
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southace said..
Just one word ho2. ......KISS keep it simple stupid


its a simple stove for a simple man South ace

southace
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27 Apr 2015 11:48PM
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Not if you have to run the fluid from one side of the boat to the other trust me! I have enough trouble running sound and video from my chat table DVD to the new TV.....never mind the gas and the fuel sytems onboard! .......I'm not calling you stupid just sharing my experences!

santanasaga
NSW, 123 posts
28 Apr 2015 10:01AM
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southace said..
Just one word ho2. ......KISS keep it simple stupid


Could it be to de-pressurise the tank once kero reaches low level? so that you don't have to re-prime all your lines?

HG02
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29 Apr 2015 8:30PM
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santanasaga said..



southace said..
Just one word ho2. ......KISS keep it simple stupid





Could it be to de-pressurise the tank once kero reaches low level? so that you don't have to re-prime all your lines?




All I can think of is both those pipes and fitting appear to be much the same so perhaps one is a spare if the other gets blocked



Also perhaps the jest in both of these are some where to store you spare jets for the burners Ill get to the bottom of it soon


Also think this two piece brass plug could be for plugging up one of the burner fuel pipes when you have a problem and you want to remove a burner and still use the other two burners in the stove

When I look at the fuel tank and see the four ports one is not needed




only need
one port for air pressure
One port for the gauge
one port for the fuel to run to the stove
so to me the spre port can be plugged off

Found this below so far on a forum
So the jet in the tank to stove fuel line maybe in there to stop pulsing and chugging of the flame

Orifice plugs or tightly rolled cylinders of brass mesh are somtimes used in fuel feed lines and stove risers to prevent resonance and flame pulsing in the operating system. The operating burners have a liquid/vapour interface in dynamic balance, and if there is no flow-resistance on the feed-line you can get pulsing or "chugging" of the flame.






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