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Marine Equipment Trade Show Holland / All about electric propulsion

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Created by sirgallivant 27 days ago, 20 Aug 2024
sirgallivant
NSW, 1531 posts
20 Aug 2024 11:29PM
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A comprehensive look at e-power today.
This is a "Sailing UMA" video all should see.

woko
NSW, 1587 posts
21 Aug 2024 7:16AM
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Interesting vid, I thought the hybrid retrofit was a bit ingenious, mounting an electric motor/ generator that can be driven by either the engine or the prop to charge then also be used to drive the prop. Unfortunately it all comes back to battery banks capable of thousands of amp hours

Ramona
NSW, 7571 posts
21 Aug 2024 7:50AM
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woko said..
Interesting vid, I thought the hybrid retrofit was a bit ingenious, mounting an electric motor/ generator that can be driven by either the engine or the prop to charge then also be used to drive the prop. Unfortunately it all comes back to battery banks capable of thousands of amp hours


That's pretty much what Nigel Calder says here. You can take whatever Nigel says as gospel!

Silent Hunter
NSW, 57 posts
21 Aug 2024 12:53PM
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Nothing about Golden Motor. Golden Motor seems to be the most popular choice for DIY installs.
www.goldenmotor.com/

I'm slowly slogging through Nigel's Boatowners Mechanical and Electrical Manual. 960 pages of feeling like you know nothing.

Kankama
NSW, 673 posts
21 Aug 2024 2:16PM
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I like Nigel's book - it's a great resource.

I don't really get most electric motors on monos. Some friends of ours who are great sailors tried a pancake motor and eventually replaced it with a big diesel. The range was awful and the amount of current used in heavy winds to change anchorages or motor sail the last few miles in nasty chop was way more than expected.

Hybrid cars work well because they start and stop a lot, whereas boats don't do any start stopping - they just get throttled up and left at a setting for hours. Coming back across Bass Strait in a calm we needed to do 7 knots to make it before the next blow and we did, the boat just gliding on through the water, the petrol outboard doing a sterling job. Not a place to stop for this guy.

Considering that we can't hook up to massive solar set ups like an electric car can, I don't see the utility of electrics, again for monos.

But for cats things are a little different. A few weeks ago we spent some time with friends who have swapped out one of their diesels for a Golden motor. They have lots of solar - about 2-3 kW. PLus the boat is really easy to push because it is a really fast cat. So it has, heaps of generating capacity, easily driven hull form and redundancy. Andrew can use both motors to manouvre and then use the electric (for short hops) or the diesel (for long hauls). Few cat sailors motor with both motors if the boat is at all fast - one motor pushed a little harder is much more efficient than two eased off slightly.

Andrew and I were talking about this when we watched some boats motor from Yellow Patch to Keppel (we were having a swim on a lovely south facing beach. In a couple more years he should be able to get some lightweight flexible panels for sunny windless days. Then if he can generate about 7kW, the boat could motor all day on the electric system. Here he is with his system

Two episodes - first one here

Silent Hunter
NSW, 57 posts
21 Aug 2024 4:32PM
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Yeah, the limitations are pretty daunting. I still can't justify converting mine, even though I really want to try. I think the Fantasia videos are some of the best about Golden Motor. Really helpful to see how it all fits together and runs against a diesel.



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