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Morse control lever need a new one

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Created by HG02 > 9 months ago, 7 Jul 2014
Crusoe
QLD, 1193 posts
10 Jul 2014 10:27AM
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Hello HG02, My brand new shiney Morse handles didn't take long to start corroding. I was very careful with it and it wasn't knocked, dinged or scratched in the installation process. Everything else is okay with the handles but I think the manufactures might be skimpping on the chrome. If I could have brought a S/Steel one I would have.

Cheers

andy59
QLD, 1153 posts
10 Jul 2014 12:24PM
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Thanks for sharing,.The vetus looks great, its on my list.

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
10 Jul 2014 1:22PM
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Crusoe said...
Hello HG02, My brand new shiney Morse handles didn't take long to start corroding. I was very careful with it and it wasn't knocked, dinged or scratched in the installation process. Everything else is okay with the handles but I think the manufactures might be skimpping on the chrome. If I could have brought a S/Steel one I would have.

Cheers


I am so glad Donk put a link up to the vetus unit.3 I live in Melbourne and bought it at marine direct and it was @work by mid day the next day from Sydney $20 freight I'm happy

LooseChange
NSW, 2140 posts
10 Jul 2014 6:00PM
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HG02 said..

I am so glad Donk put a link up to the vetus unit.3 I live in Melbourne and bought it at marine direct and it was @work by mid day the next day from Sydney $20 freight I'm happy


No way! ..It is well known you can't get anything out of sydney in under a fortnight.

Or is there a suburb of Melbourne called Sydney?

Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
10 Jul 2014 7:01PM
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When I was in Cairns and it was too late to get something out of any east coast cities overnight we could order something out of a dealer in Perth at 4pm in the afternoon and have it in Cairns the next morning

I think it was possible because of the time difference (around 3 hours from memory) and because the direct flight from Perth to Cairns leaves Perth at around 11pm at night and arrives in Cairns around 5am

We got out of trouble a few times doing this

Regards Don

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
10 Jul 2014 8:43PM
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This was TNT economy its the only choice you have with Marine direct and it was delivered to my work address which would have meant TNT would have gone there any way.
So after being shot down by South ace a while ago about the engine panel being inside the cabin and cant be seen while motoring . I have removed the so called engine panel and will be retro fitting it into this water proof compartment with If I can get my hands on it the non conductive material that can be sign written on that Cisco recommended I use I have to find the thread again on sea breeze.
I am also looking at where the throttle control is fitted after what Donk said.
Heres a couple of photos of what I have the water proof compartment came from Road tech marine. It was filled with drsaws which I am in the process of removing . I started cutting the internals out with my multi tool but the Allen key bolt came loose so I broke a few pieces off , Ill do it properly tomorrow






So I will take it down to the boat at the weekend and see which is the best way to fit it vertically or Horizontal
The teak below arrived in the post I may use it for the throttle control base
The compartment will be fitted on the opposite side from the throttle so it can be seen while operating the tiller

Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
10 Jul 2014 8:55PM
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Hi HG

I wouldn't take too much notice of what I say because to be honest I haven't much idea

Where is your present control lever located

Do you have a photo that shows it

Regards Don

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
10 Jul 2014 8:58PM
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Donk107 said..
Hi HG

I wouldn't take too much notice of what I say because to be honest I haven't much idea

Where is your present control lever located

Do you have a photo that shows it

Regards Don


Ill take a photo this weekend I dropped in there and place the compartment box around a few placed and sat where Id use the tiller. . It appeared the throttle may be OK where it is but Ill have a real look and think this weekend

Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
10 Jul 2014 9:01PM
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Just found this one that you posted before

Regards Don



HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
10 Jul 2014 9:03PM
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Its directly below the opening storage hatch

Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
10 Jul 2014 9:03PM
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Why was the original mounted on the timber instead of being screwed directly to the fibreglass

Regards Don

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
10 Jul 2014 9:05PM
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Donk107 said..
Why was the original mounted on the timber instead of being screwed directly to the fibreglass

Regards Don



No Idea Donk maybe they had trouble with the original and fitted the Morse not sure . Id be quiet happy if it was nearer the stern out of the way

I have been thinking I could fill it in and try to color match the existing side

Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
10 Jul 2014 9:10PM
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Is it not possible to mount your engine panel on either side of the hatch under the existing instruments so it is protected by the dodger when your waterproof housing door is open

Regards Don





HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
10 Jul 2014 9:19PM
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Is it not possible to mount your engine panel on either side of the hatch under the existing instruments so it is protected by the dodger when your waterproof housing door is open

Regards Don







Would it weaken the that panel thats the only reason I did not use this spot thought it might be to much?

Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
10 Jul 2014 9:31PM
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Hi HG

Mine lives there

I think that these old girls were bro ably over built so I doubt that strength would be a issue and at least it is in your normal line of sight when motoring

Regards Don




HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
10 Jul 2014 9:32PM
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Donk107 said..
Hi HG

Mine lives there

I think that these old girls were bro ably over built so I doubt that strength would be a issue and at least it is in your normal line of sight when motoring

Regards Don






I think you have talked me into it its out of the way and easy to see and I do like the iodeaa of the door on the compantment to keep the weather and sun off the ignition panel

Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
10 Jul 2014 9:34PM
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This is how it is finished on the inside to cover the wiring

Regards Don



HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
10 Jul 2014 9:41PM
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I could just fit the existing panel I have and make a roll up piece of sunbreller when in use



When I made it I should have reduced its overall size to much space between every thing

Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
10 Jul 2014 9:48PM
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If I was going to use the waterproof box I would mount it with the hinge at the bottom so you could let the lid hang down when motoring and lift it up and lock it shut when you don't need it

It probably isn't a bad idea to have the waterproof enclosure because you won't have to avoid the panel if you want to hose the cockpit area out

Regards Don

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
10 Jul 2014 9:54PM
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Donk107 said..
If I was going to use the waterproof box I would mount it with the hinge at the bottom so you could let the lid hang down when motoring and lift it up and lock it shut when you don't need it

It probably isn't a bad idea to have the waterproof enclosure because you won't have to avoid the panel if you want to hose the cockpit area out

Regards Don



I did also think about a couple of magnets one on the inside of the door and another on the bulk head so it would stay open if I fitted it vertically
Sent you a email Donk

Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
10 Jul 2014 10:56PM
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HG02 said..
Donk107 said..
If I was going to use the waterproof box I would mount it with the hinge at the bottom so you could let the lid hang down when motoring and lift it up and lock it shut when you don't need it

It probably isn't a bad idea to have the waterproof enclosure because you won't have to avoid the panel if you want to hose the cockpit area out

Regards Don



I did also think about a couple of magnets one on the inside of the door and another on the bulk head so it would stay open if I fitted it vertically
Sent you a email Donk



You could swing it upwards and secure it but is there any advantage in doing it that way over just letting it hang down when open

Regards Don

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
10 Jul 2014 11:18PM
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Donk107 said..

HG02 said..

Donk107 said..
If I was going to use the waterproof box I would mount it with the hinge at the bottom so you could let the lid hang down when motoring and lift it up and lock it shut when you don't need it

It probably isn't a bad idea to have the waterproof enclosure because you won't have to avoid the panel if you want to hose the cockpit area out

Regards Don




I did also think about a couple of magnets one on the inside of the door and another on the bulk head so it would stay open if I fitted it vertically
Sent you a email Donk




You could swing it upwards and secure it but is there any advantage in doing it that way over just letting it hang down when open

Regards Don




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Donk107 said..

HG02 said..

Donk107 said..
If I was going to use the waterproof box I would mount it with the hinge at the bottom so you could let the lid hang down when motoring and lift it up and lock it shut when you don't need it

It probably isn't a bad idea to have the waterproof enclosure because you won't have to avoid the panel if you want to hose the cockpit area out

Regards Don




I did also think about a couple of magnets one on the inside of the door and another on the bulk head so it would stay open if I fitted it vertically
Sent you a email Donk




You could swing it upwards and secure it but is there any advantage in doing it that way over just letting it hang down when open

Regards Don


There are a couple of gages already on there which Id like to remove If I can cut the compartment opening to remove both of these thats what Id like to do

Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
11 Jul 2014 12:01AM
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If you mount the panel up high where the existing instruments are do you intend to mount the replacement instruments below the panel

Regards Don

Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
11 Jul 2014 1:03AM
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Hi HG

If you wanted to remove the existing box on the rear of the cockpit and patch it if you didn't get a perfect finish you could hide it by fitting a rope bag there for the mizzen sheet and if you wanted a matching one on the other side for personal stuff etc (I like things to be symmetrical)
www.ronstan.com.au/marine5/product.asp?ProdNo=RF3810


Regards Don

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
11 Jul 2014 7:17AM
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Donk107 said..
Hi HG

If you wanted to remove the existing box on the rear of the cockpit and patch it if you didn't get a perfect finish you could hide it by fitting a rope bag there for the mizzen sheet and if you wanted a matching one on the other side for personal stuff etc (I like things to be symmetrical)
www.ronstan.com.au/marine5/product.asp?ProdNo=RF3810


Regards Don



Nice idea Donk thanks.
When I was removing the mast I sort of found the throttle control seemed to be in the wrong place when maneuvering as well as the internals are just inside the cock pit storge area so fouling things inside worries me a bit Murphy's law states when some thing goes wrong its always unexpected

And Im not a fan of ropes being untidy

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
11 Jul 2014 7:19AM
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This is some thing that Im searching for a gage recess seem hard to find In Oz

Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
11 Jul 2014 11:11AM
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Hi HG

Why do you not want to use the one you made inside the waterproof housing

At least you can shut the door on yours and keep the elements out

How big is the box compared to the section beside the cabin hatch where you were considering mounting it

Regards Don

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
13 Jul 2014 7:57PM
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Donk107 said..
Hi HG

Why do you not want to use the one you made inside the waterproof housing

At least you can shut the door on yours and keep the elements out

How big is the box compared to the section beside the cabin hatch where you were considering mounting it

Regards Don






Donk
see down at the stern the previous owner fitted a fiberglass box that protrudes out into the cock pit. In this box he fitted a alternative start and engine stop buttons . What I will be is remove that box and make something really nice and as there is not enough room to place my engine gages I will make a another to go on the opposite side with the gages inside it and perhaps make a clear weather proof cove. Ill make them both recessed and trim them . Ill save the storage box I bought for some other purpose . Maybe a sea water hose off system for muddy feet when you come on board.
I sort of got side tracked this weekend refurbished a couple of laptops .One for the boat as they were free

Karsten
NSW, 331 posts
15 Jul 2014 8:58PM
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Those enclosures and mounting boxes look fine and may in the end work out nice and practical, but man I sweat whenever I contemplate getting out a saw, and cutting out a 12-inch piece of perfectly good fibreglass panel from any part of my deck or cockpit.

I may be prepared to drill a few 2-inch holes if there's a good reason, but no way do I cut a shoe-box size hole into nice, thick, flat, strong, factory-made fibreglass panel. Still, I'm a minority and lots of people just grab their jigsaws and cut away.

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
16 Jul 2014 12:45AM
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Karsten said..
Those enclosures and mounting boxes look fine and may in the end work out nice and practical, but man I sweat whenever I contemplate getting out a saw, and cutting out a 12-inch piece of perfectly good fibreglass panel from any part of my deck or cockpit.

I may be prepared to drill a few 2-inch holes if there's a good reason, but no way do I cut a shoe-box size hole into nice, thick, flat, strong, factory-made fibreglass panel. Still, I'm a minority and lots of people just grab their jigsaws and cut away.


Im a bit the same Karsten
Im not a big fan of cutting fiberglass in the cockpit either. But I need to do some thing with the stern box to tidy it up I am thinking now that my st 2000 auto pilot might plug in there and replace the old stern fiber glass box with a piece of teak I have here and fit my auto pilot plug on it.
Maybe later I may try to fill the hole with a fiberglass patch and try and color match .



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