I have looked at a Northshore 33 and am interested in the size, layout, sailing performance, etc. but really like the idea of a hard dodger, like on Summer Breeze 2.
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/northshore-33/237318
I know HaveFun did the research and found the yard that did the install and the approximate costs and was doing a similar hard dodger on his own NS33, but the thread seemed to have died before any further progress or final pics were posted.
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Sailing/General/Hard-dodger-for-Northshore-33
In doing my research I have also come across a Jarkan 10.5 aft-cockpit that already has a hard dodger and the boat looks like it is in immaculate condition.
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/jarkan-10-5/242250
I realise the hull shape, keel type, rudder arrangement, displacement and interior layout is different, but was wondering what you think about this boat in comparison to a NS 33 with hard dodger?
What do you think are the advantages/disadvantages of both boats in comparison to each other?
Which one would you chose and why?
Assume the NS33 + hard dodger would be around $45k all up.
Would mainly depend on what you want to do with the yacht. Club racing (kites as well as 2 sail twilights) or just inshore and close offshore day sailing or further offshore trips up and down the coast? Are you sailing single handed or short handed or have a crew of 5-6 ready?
IMHO;
the Jarkan would be the better offshore long trip cruiser - more volume and interior accomm etc, heavier (6t vs 4.3t), would handle rough weather better..........but the cockpit is very small...........
The NS33 would be the better club racer and day sailor inshore and short offshore, should be faster. Cockpit is not too small.
Initially Sydney Harbour mostly single-handed, sometimes with two other crew that know nothing about sailing and then coastal cruising between Sydney and Airlie Beach. Boat will be based in Sydney initially and then Mooloolaba in about two years time.
Potential for offshore work to places like Vanuatu, New Caledonia, Solomon Islands, Fiji, Louisiades, etc.
Hi Reef Knot,
A Northshore 33 priced well leaves $ for upgrades to suit your needs:
www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/northshore-33/241662
I know this particular one has been from Sydney to northern Queensland, round Tasmania and back.
Just a thought.....
As promised Reef Knot here are some photos of the hard dodger on Have Fun taken on Australia Day this year. Since then Ben at Hood Sails has made a new sail cover. You will notice the traveller has been moved to the top of the hard dodger with the mainsheet now taken back along the boom and out on each side leading back to winches on either side. As I said in my message I ended up spending more than good sense justifies but one thing just kept leading to another. The result though is a system that works well for me and as you can see from the smiles on these first time sailors passess the wow test.
The Jarkan looks like a good buy with the hard dodger already in place. From the specs listed for the Jarkan, you probably would be better paying a bit more for the Jarkan purchase and know what you are getting, rather than buy a Northshore 33 with the intention of spending an unknown quantity on fitting a hard dodger and associated upgrade costs. Kanga Birtles built great sea boats with all the Jarkan range, so you I do not think you will be disappointed.
One more point on the Jarkan, I notice from the specs and the photos that it has an in the mast furling main. Old salts will tell you not to touch an in the mast furler. I originally had a roller furler on the boom which, as I mentioned in the private message, I replaced. The same old salts said the roller on the boom was OK. I changed it to a normal boom as it really did not suit single handed sailing. Check how the furler in the mast is rigged. A clubmate has a Moody with an in the mast furler and he claims he has never had a problem. They are certainly easy to operate when short handed (which is just about all the time) and, I assume, provided you stay well ahead of the weather if fitted.
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As promised Reef Knot here are some photos of the hard dodger on Have Fun taken on Australia Day this year. Since then Ben at Hood Sails has made a new sail cover. You will notice the traveller has been moved to the top of the hard dodger with the mainsheet now taken back along the boom and out on each side leading back to winches on either side. As I said in my message I ended up spending more than good sense justifies but one thing just kept leading to another. The result though is a system that works well for me and as you can see from the smiles on these first time sailors passess the wow test.
Thank you. Looks very smart. Seems to have more height in it than the one on Summer Breeze 2. I assume you have full standing headroom under the dodger. Maybe SB2 doesn't have full headroom.
Anyway it looks good and appreciate you posting the pics.
Select to expand quoteHaveFun said..
The Jarkan looks like a good buy with the hard dodger already in place. From the specs listed for the Jarkan, you probably would be better paying a bit more for the Jarkan purchase and know what you are getting, rather than buy a Northshore 33 with the intention of spending an unknown quantity on fitting a hard dodger and associated upgrade costs. Kanga Birtles built great sea boats with all the Jarkan range, so you I do not think you will be disappointed.
Good points. I have heard good things about the Jarkan 10.5 hull. Not sure about the size of the cockpit though.
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One more point on the Jarkan, I notice from the specs and the photos that it has an in the mast furling main.
That is one thing I am not too keen on. I would prefer just the normal slab reefing on the mainsail.
