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Seems cheap

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Created by keensailor > 9 months ago, 25 Aug 2015
keensailor
NSW, 699 posts
25 Aug 2015 3:10AM
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cisco
QLD, 12337 posts
25 Aug 2015 11:53AM
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That photo was taken at Midtown Marina (Bundaberg) prior to the 2011 floods.

Sectorsteve
QLD, 2195 posts
25 Aug 2015 12:18PM
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The ole 5 year old photo trick

McNaughtical
NSW, 908 posts
25 Aug 2015 7:09PM
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keensailor said..






Why do you say this one will be hard to sell Ramona?

jev7337
QLD, 460 posts
26 Aug 2015 8:34AM
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Ramona said...
That's going to be hard to sell. For similar money http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/redcliffe/sail-boats/moody-40-very-rare-luxury-live-aboard-6-berth-yacht-1981-/1086646006?utm_source=criteo&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=LF-boats


Does anyone now anything about this yacht - the Moody? I read they're a bit sluggish and don't point well?? But seems to be well priced and equipped. A bit boxed in down below.
Have been looking around for a family cruiser lately and this one seems ok in this price range.

southace
SA, 4776 posts
26 Aug 2015 11:44AM
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This is my pick for the month.
http://yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/corbin-39/172554
likes....
wheel house helm
cabin heater

dislikes....
double ender


And this Adams 40
i just like the inventory.
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/adams-40-centre-cockpit/173164


Ramona
NSW, 7584 posts
26 Aug 2015 5:44PM
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Like the first one. Lot of boat for the money That Kalik 44 is still for sale and would be the faster boat. Golf diesel as well. Big price drop and asking for offers.

Bundeenabuoy
NSW, 1239 posts
26 Aug 2015 8:00PM
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Wow!
I have looked at one of these recently and it does 'look like a lot of boat for the money'.
I am wondering how it sails?


BlueMoon
866 posts
26 Aug 2015 6:45PM
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SA, im really liking that Corbin 39....why are you disliking the "double ender".
I have heard they are not popular (doesn't mean it is bad in my books....I sail a junk rig)
I would of thought less chance of broaching, when running in large seas, im just guessing as I don't know.

My dislike would be what looks like not full headroom inside, & that port-side high berth (probably only good for the cat!), I would turn the long seat in the wheelhouse into a seaberth (probably have to make it wider).

My likes are, looks like a good sail plan.
Lots of big ST winches
wheel house helm

cheers

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
26 Aug 2015 10:31PM
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www.sailboatlistings.com/view/52550

Unfortunately for me these don't come up in Oz and as there getting on in years you would want to go through the hull integrity thoroughly.
But Id still like one

cisco
QLD, 12337 posts
27 Aug 2015 12:08AM
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HG02 said..
www.sailboatlistings.com/view/52550

Unfortunately for me these don't come up in Oz and as there getting on in years you would want to go through the hull integrity thoroughly.
But Id still like one


Some really great yachts have been put up in the posts but that Freedom 33 you put up HG I think is the best of them. Very nice.

Since I got my Lotus 9.2 though, I have hardly been looking at the brokerage sites. One might say I am justifying my purchase. I say not.

I say I have one of the best 30 footers ever designed and built. I have not really sailed her yet as I am steadily going through her getting everything the way it should be. There is no doubt in my mind that when I do go sailing her, my sailing expectations will be fully realised.

The progress is good. Engine is great and working well with the snake oil fuel additive that Ramona recommended. Anchor winch is fitted and working good and the cap shroud chain plates have been removed serviced and refitted. Next job is the lower shroud chain plates. They may need replacing or at least their bolts.

More pics coming up in "What did you do to your sailing boat today?"

Here is my pick of the bargain boats available today. Needs work as all bargain boats do but a round bilge Adams 40 for $30,000 has to be looked at.

www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/adams-40-round-bilge-steel-cutter-rig-centre-cockpit/173288


MorningBird
NSW, 2662 posts
27 Aug 2015 3:05AM
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cisco said..

HG02 said..
www.sailboatlistings.com/view/52550

Unfortunately for me these don't come up in Oz and as there getting on in years you would want to go through the hull integrity thoroughly.
But Id still like one



Some really great yachts have been put up in the posts but that Freedom 33 you put up HG I think is the best of them. Very nice.

Since I got my Lotus 9.2 though, I have hardly been looking at the brokerage sites. One might say I am justifying my purchase. I say not.

I say I have one of the best 30 footers ever designed and built. I have not really sailed her yet as I am steadily going through her getting everything the way it should be. There is no doubt in my mind that when I do go sailing her, my sailing expectations will be fully realised.

The progress is good. Engine is great and working well with the snake oil fuel additive that Ramona recommended. Anchor winch is fitted and working good and the cap shroud chain plates have been removed serviced and refitted. Next job is the lower shroud chain plates. They may need replacing or at least their bolts.

More pics coming up in "What did you do to your sailing boat today?"

Here is my pick of the bargain boats available today. Needs work as all bargain boats do but a round bilge Adams 40 for $30,000 has to be looked at.

www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/adams-40-round-bilge-steel-cutter-rig-centre-cockpit/173288




Gee you guys like buying junk. While the Adams is a good design and probably (but not guaranteed) structurally sound it is clearly leaking like a sieve and hasn't been used in a decade. The internal damage and mould indicate resealing all the toe rails, deck fittings, dodger, chain plates etc. The deck needs a clean but the rig will be shot and a new sail wardrobe. Probably new furler as well. Without use the engine and drive train will need considerable work as well.
If you buy it for $30K you spend every spare waking hour for 10 years to bring it up to speed, or $80-100K. 40 ft is a lot of boat, doing it yourself will be a labour of hate after a year or two.
You can buy a good sail away one needing $10k to get it just rightfor maybe $50-60K. Why would you buy this piece of someone else's rubbish? :-)

Ramona
NSW, 7584 posts
27 Aug 2015 7:24AM
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MorningBird said..

cisco said..


HG02 said..
www.sailboatlistings.com/view/52550

Unfortunately for me these don't come up in Oz and as there getting on in years you would want to go through the hull integrity thoroughly.
But Id still like one




Some really great yachts have been put up in the posts but that Freedom 33 you put up HG I think is the best of them. Very nice.

Since I got my Lotus 9.2 though, I have hardly been looking at the brokerage sites. One might say I am justifying my purchase. I say not.

I say I have one of the best 30 footers ever designed and built. I have not really sailed her yet as I am steadily going through her getting everything the way it should be. There is no doubt in my mind that when I do go sailing her, my sailing expectations will be fully realised.

The progress is good. Engine is great and working well with the snake oil fuel additive that Ramona recommended. Anchor winch is fitted and working good and the cap shroud chain plates have been removed serviced and refitted. Next job is the lower shroud chain plates. They may need replacing or at least their bolts.

More pics coming up in "What did you do to your sailing boat today?"

Here is my pick of the bargain boats available today. Needs work as all bargain boats do but a round bilge Adams 40 for $30,000 has to be looked at.

www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/adams-40-round-bilge-steel-cutter-rig-centre-cockpit/173288





Gee you guys like buying junk. While the Adams is a good design and probably (but not guaranteed) structurally sound it is clearly leaking like a sieve and hasn't been used in a decade. The internal damage and mould indicate resealing all the toe rails, deck fittings, dodger, chain plates etc. The deck needs a clean but the rig will be shot and a new sail wardrobe. Probably new furler as well. Without use the engine and drive train will need considerable work as well.
If you buy it for $30K you spend every spare waking hour for 10 years to bring it up to speed, or $80-100K. 40 ft is a lot of boat, doing it yourself will be a labour of hate after a year or two.
You can buy a good sail away one needing $10k to get it just rightfor maybe $50-60K. Why would you buy this piece of someone else's rubbish? :-)


It has the word "steel" in the ad. Friend of mines centrecockpit steel Adams is up on the hard now. The idea was for a 3 month job but I can see it going past 12 months.

FreeRadical
WA, 855 posts
27 Aug 2015 6:24AM
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Ramona said..

FreeRadical said..
Bit (lot) of work needed inside, but this is a beautiful looking yacht.

http://yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/tayana-52/172108



The costs of antifouling and slipping would cripple most of us.


a boat like that, I'd take to Thailand for a refit. After that, a world cruiser.

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
28 Aug 2015 1:44AM
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Yara
NSW, 1275 posts
28 Aug 2015 12:32PM
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That Cat ketch must have some kind of forward daggerboard to balance the sail area so far forward. And a lightweight, shallow, canoe body, methinks.
No propwash evident!

HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
28 Aug 2015 6:50PM
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http://www.rickobeyandassociates.com/Product-Homepage-srk/33-ft-1982-Freedom-Cat-Ketch---Wanderer-prk/Yara said..
That Cat ketch must have some kind of forward daggerboard to balance the sail area so far forward. And a lightweight, shallow, canoe body, methinks.
No propwash evident!










www.rickobeyandassociates.com/Product-Homepage-srk/33-ft-1982-Freedom-Cat-Ketch---Wanderer-prk/











There balsa cored hulls so you would have to be through making sure there not soggy and the wish bone model can be a little hard to raise the sails unlike the one above with a sail track.



Just found the link below a big price reduction

www.yachtworld.com/boats/1982/Freedom-Cat-Ketch--2442816/Fort-Lauderdale/FL/United-States#.VeAjg_aqpBc






Locally the closest thing would be this bad boat

www.schionningdesigns.com.au/9500




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