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What Cant You Do Without

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Created by Toph > 9 months ago, 31 Oct 2018
Toph
WA, 1832 posts
31 Oct 2018 4:19PM
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I went for a sail Friday night and 1 of 3 GPS plotters wasn't working. It just so happened that it was the plotter that both the AIS and Radar display on. I didn't like not having either, but especially the AIS. My only comfort was that nobody else was probably silly enough to be out.

What piece of equipment don't you like going without?

All@Sea
TAS, 231 posts
31 Oct 2018 7:21PM
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Telltales... and depth sounder if I'm in unfamiliar waters... Generally only day sail at this point in life.

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
31 Oct 2018 7:27PM
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All@Sea said..
Telltales


yep

EC31
NSW, 490 posts
31 Oct 2018 8:09PM
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All@Sea said..
Telltales... and depth sounder if I'm in unfamiliar waters... Generally only day sail at this point in life.


+1

Windjana
WA, 396 posts
31 Oct 2018 5:23PM
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A cold fridge for the Beer.

Jethrow
NSW, 1240 posts
31 Oct 2018 8:40PM
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Chris 249
NSW, 3338 posts
31 Oct 2018 8:46PM
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Something to float on (ie a hull or a board), centreboard or keel, rudder or fin, spars, sail(s) and control lines. Everything else is optional although telltales are nice. Oh, and clothes as well, normally.

On the J/36 we really like the depth sounder, GPS or plotter (phone or ipad) at times because she's got more than 6ft of draft and we sail in some shallow areas. The rest of the instruments are largely irrelevant, although water temp is good if you're thinking of swimming.

I did Sydney-Noumeas and Sydney-Hobarts in the days before GPS, satnav, AIS or radar and we never had real problems - in fact probably fewer boats hit the bricks and no one hit ships. I confess I don't really understand AIS - if I can't see 20,000 tons of metal approaching then I deserve to get run over.

southace
SA, 4773 posts
31 Oct 2018 8:23PM
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I would miss my washing machine!

SandS
VIC, 5904 posts
31 Oct 2018 8:57PM
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southace said..
I would miss my washing machine!


haahhahhhah. you spoil yourself .......

Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
31 Oct 2018 9:06PM
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I bought some waterproof Sealskinz socks a couple of months ago and while the weather is still a bit cool down here i am loving wearing them on the boat

Regards Don

shaggybaxter
QLD, 2532 posts
31 Oct 2018 8:19PM
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A stove/burner.
Hot drinks.
Hot food.
Aaaahhhh..............

GKandCC
NSW, 218 posts
31 Oct 2018 9:30PM
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shaggybaxter said..
A stove/burner.
Hot drinks.
Hot food.
Aaaahhhh..............


Hot drinks Shaggy.coming up to summer on the bay?.surely a nice cold fridge, and some liquid contents.

Trek
NSW, 1147 posts
31 Oct 2018 9:55PM
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IRB. Don't like those stories about containers floating around, hitting one then swimming

Bananabender
QLD, 1586 posts
31 Oct 2018 9:23PM
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My reading glasses. Can't read anything without them and that's just the start.

cisco
QLD, 12327 posts
31 Oct 2018 10:16PM
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Sounder, hand held GPS, sun hat and fridge.

rumblefish
TAS, 824 posts
1 Nov 2018 5:57AM
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Donk107 said..
I bought some waterproof Sealskinz socks a couple of months ago and while the weather is still a bit cool down here i am loving wearing them on the boat

Regards Don


The gloves rock for cold weather helming too!

Donk107
TAS, 2446 posts
1 Nov 2018 6:14AM
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rumblefish said..

Donk107 said..
I bought some waterproof Sealskinz socks a couple of months ago and while the weather is still a bit cool down here i am loving wearing them on the boat

Regards Don



The gloves rock for cold weather helming too!


Yep

I have a pair of those as well

Regards Don

shaggybaxter
QLD, 2532 posts
1 Nov 2018 5:14AM
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GKandCC said..

shaggybaxter said..
A stove/burner.
Hot drinks.
Hot food.
Aaaahhhh..............



Hot drinks Shaggy.coming up to summer on the bay?.surely a nice cold fridge, and some liquid contents.


Cisco,
Aw, that's a tough one.
Nah, I'm sticking with my stove. Nothing like that cup of hot coffee first thing in the morning watching the sunrise appear over the water!

Jode5
QLD, 853 posts
1 Nov 2018 6:34AM
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southace said..
I would miss my washing machine!


Me to, i'v Got ono of those automatic ones, you just drop your clothes on the floor and some how it picks them up, washes them and puts them back in the cupboard. Some times it's not very reliable.

BlueMoon
866 posts
1 Nov 2018 5:53AM
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Apart from the chart plotter, came into Yamba last night with no moon, with the amount of lights and judging the distance off them would have been a mess without it .
I'd say the vhf, it's very convenient for exchanging info and safety messages between boats

boty
QLD, 685 posts
1 Nov 2018 8:44AM
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Chris 249 said..
Something to float on (ie a hull or a board), centreboard or keel, rudder or fin, spars, sail(s) and control lines. Everything else is optional although telltales are nice. Oh, and clothes as well, normally.

On the J/36 we really like the depth sounder, GPS or plotter (phone or ipad) at times because she's got more than 6ft of draft and we sail in some shallow areas. The rest of the instruments are largely irrelevant, although water temp is good if you're thinking of swimming.

I did Sydney-Noumeas and Sydney-Hobarts in the days before GPS, satnav, AIS or radar and we never had real problems - in fact probably fewer boats hit the bricks and no one hit ships. I confess I don't really understand AIS - if I can't see 20,000 tons of metal approaching then I deserve to get run over.


all of the above but I do like a fridge for cold drinks

cisco
QLD, 12327 posts
1 Nov 2018 11:30AM
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shaggybaxter said..
Cisco,
Aw, that's a tough one.
Nah, I'm sticking with my stove. Nothing like that cup of hot coffee first thing in the morning watching the sunrise appear over the water!




Shaggy, you are absolutely right. You gotta have a stove of some sort even if just going out for a day sail. Nothing like a hot drink to restore morale.

Going to Toph's question and some of the humorous responses, a bit of context might help, say accepted essentials such as stove, sounder, VHF, charts, bunks, dunny etc and non essentials that you don't LIKE being without.

My revised list:-

Handheld GPS, sun hat, fridge, music player. Those I really like having but I am quite ambivalent when it comes to wig wams for the goose's bridle.

P.S. What with smart phones, tablets etc I think the average yacht will have 3 or 4 GPS receivers on board these days.

Bristolfashion
VIC, 490 posts
1 Nov 2018 1:31PM
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I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,

And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by;

And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,

And a grey mist on the sea's face, and a grey dawn breaking.


I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide

Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;

And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,

And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.


I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,

To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted knife;

And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,

And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over.







Probably sums it up for me, although sunnies, hat & coffee would probably be on the list.

Cheers

Bristol






Bristolfashion
VIC, 490 posts
1 Nov 2018 1:33PM
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I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,

And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by;

And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,

And a grey mist on the sea's face, and a grey dawn breaking.


I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide

Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;

And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,

And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.


I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,

To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted knife;

And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,

And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over.








Bristol






Bristolfashion
VIC, 490 posts
1 Nov 2018 1:33PM
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Ok, I'll give up trying to post that!

Bristolfashion
VIC, 490 posts
1 Nov 2018 1:33PM
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Ok, I'll give up trying to post that!

Datawiz
VIC, 605 posts
1 Nov 2018 1:58PM
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There you go Bristol...

Sea Fever BY JOHN MASEFIELD

I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,
And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by;
And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,
And a grey mist on the sea's face, and a grey dawn breaking.

I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide
Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;
And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,
And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.

I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,
To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted knife;
And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,
And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over.

Lazzz
NSW, 885 posts
1 Nov 2018 4:27PM
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NowandZen said..
A cold fridge for the Beer.


I gotta agree with that :)









Trek
NSW, 1147 posts
1 Nov 2018 5:12PM
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Lazzz said..

NowandZen said..
A cold fridge for the Beer.



I gotta agree with that :)










A floating paradise!

shaggybaxter
QLD, 2532 posts
1 Nov 2018 4:53PM
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Lazzz said..

NowandZen said..
A cold fridge for the Beer.



I gotta agree with that :)










Can I marry into your family Lazz??

Chris 249
NSW, 3338 posts
2 Nov 2018 9:47AM
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Datawiz said..
There you go Bristol...

Sea Fever BY JOHN MASEFIELD

I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky,
And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by;
And the wheel's kick and the wind's song and the white sail's shaking,
And a grey mist on the sea's face, and a grey dawn breaking.

I must go down to the seas again, for the call of the running tide
Is a wild call and a clear call that may not be denied;
And all I ask is a windy day with the white clouds flying,
And the flung spray and the blown spume, and the sea-gulls crying.

I must go down to the seas again, to the vagrant gypsy life,
To the gull's way and the whale's way where the wind's like a whetted knife;
And all I ask is a merry yarn from a laughing fellow-rover,
And quiet sleep and a sweet dream when the long trick's over.


Or as the former owner of a boat I raced on wrote (from memory but with some changes to make it intelligible to 2018);

I must go down to the seas again, to the lonely sea and the sky;
and buy me a stripped out race machine, and GPS to steer her by;
she'll cost me a million quid, with 15,000 in the genny;
and if she doesn't win every race, she won't be worth a penny;

....and so it goes on, bemoaning the tough life of the offshore racer owner.



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