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Created by twodogs1969 > 9 months ago, 28 Aug 2015
twodogs1969
NSW, 1000 posts
28 Aug 2015 10:10AM
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I purchased a plastimo 135 compass off gumtree i was wondering if stainless steel screws used to fix the top compass to the binical will effect the readings or do I need to use nylon screws?

Yara
NSW, 1273 posts
28 Aug 2015 12:22PM
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Stainless steel should generally be non-magnetic, depending on the grade. However, check by moving them around the compass and see if it swings. Keep them together to magnify any possible effect, when you do it.

Crusoe
QLD, 1193 posts
28 Aug 2015 4:07PM
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That reminds me why God gave gave us aluminium beer cans, so we could put then in drink holders at the helm!!! Nearly as important as when he inspired the guys who developed the chronometer for navigation

I see these iPad mounted at the helm and wonder what they do to compass accurate. I know that if I rest my iPad on the deck above where the fluxgate compass for the auto pilot is, we go way off course.

But there are some on the water who don't believe they need a compass or log if they have their iPad on hand. Might as well get rid of the dept sounder as well.

southace
SA, 4773 posts
28 Aug 2015 4:33PM
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My digital IPad Compass works a treat on the big screen if I ever need it!

It is gimmbled on the iPad but not on seabreeze!



HG02
VIC, 5814 posts
28 Aug 2015 6:45PM
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What depth sounder not this year any way

Toph
WA, 1832 posts
28 Aug 2015 6:10PM
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Twodogs, I wouldn't worry too much about the screws. There is a lot more that can effect your new compass. You probably should get it 'swung' in anycase and that will pick up on the errors and can largely be rectified.

twodogs1969
NSW, 1000 posts
29 Aug 2015 1:07AM
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Hi troph
How/ who do you get it swung by?

Ramona
NSW, 7569 posts
29 Aug 2015 8:15AM
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twodogs1969 said..
Hi troph
How/ who do you get it swung by?



A compass swing for survey costs about $500 upwards, depending where you live. You don't need it. Bronze or SS screws will do.


There are ads in the back of the "Afloat" magazine if you want to proceed with a swing.

Toph
WA, 1832 posts
29 Aug 2015 12:59PM
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Ramona said...
twodogs1969 said..
Hi troph
How/ who do you get it swung by?



A compass swing for survey costs about $500 upwards, depending where you live. You don't need it. Bronze or SS screws will do.


There are ads in the back of the "Afloat" magazine if you want to proceed with a swing.


Is it really that much!!!!!!!
Twodogs, very basically, they apply magnets (or magnetic material) at points around the compass to bring it back into alignment the best they can. Then you would usually be given an updated deviation card.

You would fairly accurately be able to check the deviation yourself with a hand held compass, GPS or both. But as Ramona says, the ss screws wouldn't be much of an issue



Ramona
NSW, 7569 posts
29 Aug 2015 6:07PM
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If you need the certificate. If your not far from Sydney and can get 3 or 4 other boats that require a swing and a ticket on the same day then it will cost about $500 each. In Sydney harbour you wont have to share the traveling expenses and accommodation costs but the "specialist" may not want to do just one boat! Takes about a hour of steaming around in circles if all goes well.

Ramona
NSW, 7569 posts
29 Aug 2015 6:19PM
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twodogs1969 said..
Hi troph
How/ who do you get it swung by?


All you need is a check swing. Looks like your in Botany Bay. I would suggest finding a few transit marks around the bay on a paper chart. Convert the readings to magnetic and just steam around pointing your vessel at these transit points and compare your compass reading to your notes. If your with in 5 degrees I would call that quits and return to electronic navigation.


Only people that need to worry really are those people with steel boats!

Trek
NSW, 1143 posts
2 Sep 2015 8:54AM
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Crusoe said..
That reminds me why God gave gave us aluminium beer cans, so we could put then in drink holders at the helm!!! Nearly as important as when he inspired the guys who developed the chronometer for navigation

I see these iPad mounted at the helm and wonder what they do to compass accurate. I know that if I rest my iPad on the deck above where the fluxgate compass for the auto pilot is, we go way off course.

But there are some on the water who don't believe they need a compass or log if they have their iPad on hand. Might as well get rid of the dept sounder as well.



Your suspicion of Ipads etc is well founded. Mobile phones and new tech things have speakers with very strong magnets inside that will deviate a compass. A boat I know sailed a fair distance before realising the mobile phone sitting in the stubby holder next to the compass was sending them off the wrong way



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