If you are ready to install a foil on a stick on foil mount. Be careful!
A SUP surfing mate of mine just informed me that after installing his foil on the stick on mount he decided to unscrew the bolts to reposition the foil.
To his horror when looking through the grooves of the stick on mount he found that the bolts had pierced through the under side of his SUP!
Lucky he hadn't surfed it yet.
What he had done was selected the wrong bolts due to the correct bolts not fitting easily through the mounting plate of the foil. So then thinking they weren't the right ones, then selected the bolts that slipped through the holes of the plate, not realising that they were too long.
Although I have not witnessed what he had done as yet. And not having read any of the instructions that the stick mount & the foil came with. I can only think that the manufacturers or the sellers of the bolts should have labelled the bolt packets saying, " Not for use with whatever foil brands."
Oh well. He is now going to epoxy the holes to waterproof the board & then drill out the holes of the foil mounting plates just a fraction so the correct bolts can just slip through.
Hopefully all goes well for his first foil experience on our next surf session as he was so dissapointed.
Select to expand quoteSeajuice said..
If you are ready to install a foil on a stick on foil mount. Be careful!
A SUP surfing mate of mine just informed me that after installing his foil on the stick on mount he decided to unscrew the bolts to reposition the foil.
To his horror when looking through the grooves of the stick on mount he found that the bolts had pierced through the under side of his SUP!
Lucky he hadn't surfed it yet.
What he had done was selected the wrong bolts due to the correct bolts not fitting easily through the mounting plate of the foil. So then thinking they weren't the right ones, then selected the bolts that slipped through the holes of the plate, not realising that they were too long.
Although I have not witnessed what he had done as yet. And not having read any of the instructions that the stick mount & the foil came with. I can only think that the manufacturers or the sellers of the bolts should have labelled the bolt packets saying, " Not for use with whatever foil brands."
Oh well. He is now going to epoxy the holes to waterproof the board & then drill out the holes of the foil mounting plates just a fraction so the correct bolts can just slip through.
Hopefully all goes well for his first foil experience on our next surf session as he was so dissapointed.
my board was delaminated by the foil mount after 2 surfs very expensive surf
The mounts come with different length bolts , because all the foil bases are different thickness. It's pretty easy to check before you screw in bolts that are too long. Just put in a thin screw driver or something similar and mark it to see the depth then compare it to a correct length bolt.
You can't expect Foilmount to say what bolts fits what , as new foils are coming out every week.
Hey Jezza what board did you stick yours on and did it have a concave ?
I understand what you are saying Piros. But is what you have said in the instructions ? & also was this said to customers by the sellers of the products like the board shops.
Also I don't think one should have to drill out holes of the foil plate unless instructed to do so. As this is why one would choose other bolts to fit & overlook the length of a bolt.
Simple instructions by manufacturers & sellers would alleviate big headaches for both parties.
If I was an employee of a shop selling both the stick on pad & a certain brand foil I would have provided only the correct bolts to the customer & informed them why before handing over or sending the products.
Anyway the holes have been plugged with epoxy & hopefully the board is waterproof for its first test.
If you had to drill the plate that means it was built for M6 bolts , the plates have M8 T nut inserts. Yeah I agree instructions a bit vague but I never had an issue. I've used 6 plates now on a bunch of different foils. I'm nothing to do with them but the new plates have a slot so you can change the T nuts and not drill your plate. You can also get a new plate that has a groove to let the plate flex to suit a small concave.
I have also removed a plate , I just used a knife to get the edge up then pulled a wire under it , you can buy more 3M tape to re-apply it. These plates have been around for a few years on kite boards with no dramas , it's just all the new heavy duty Sup foils coming out that are different. Kite board construction is way more heavy duty than a Sup , so you have to be careful what board you stick them on. I wouldn't put them on a custom Sup with one layer of 6oz on the bottom.
Select to expand quotePiros said..
The mounts come with different length bolts , because all the foil bases are different thickness. It's pretty easy to check before you screw in bolts that are too long. Just put in a thin screw driver or something similar and mark it to see the depth then compare it to a correct length bolt.
You can't expect Foilmount to say what bolts fits what , as new foils are coming out every week.
Hey Jezza what board did you stick yours on and did it have a concave ?
my laguna bay. yes i think it has slight concave piros
Yeah the plates are really stiff , I put one my custom vanguard I built with a concave and stood on it to stick and then put a jerry can full of fuel to push it down. It slightly delamed first surf as the pressure of the plate pulled the glass off. They now have a new plate which is routed out down the centre to let the plate flex for a concave. Just cut the plate off with a knife and wire and fix the board with a few layers of 6 oz and make it flat and get some more 3M tape and stick back on. I did that on mine and still going strong. This is a shot of the new plate with the groove but still a single layer of 6oz is not enough.
