Hi ! The new Naish hover looks nice ! Anyone would have the weight of the different model ? I can't find them anywhere.
Thanks for the feedback!
Sadly cant borrow or demo - straight purchase. The reason i was hesitant to go the 31 inch wide Naish 125 (over the 29 inc wide 110 model) is thats wider than my surf sup i have (JP surf pro 128 and 30 wide, but a pretty pulled in nose and tail that makes it nervous) and wider than the naish crossover 120 (30 inches by 7'4) i have tried to wing with (but wind too light) thats feels OK in terms of bouyancy and stability (90kg). And then combine that with the wide spread view that the learning curve means people seem to chop their original board in within 6 mths. So (some perhaps misguided) logic would maybe say i could go the 110...albeit it might be more challenging to begin with. But at the same time if the 125 felt fine and not too big (can that be the case when you start winging?) then that would be the better option i guess! My local store (150km away) has both models in the shop ready for me to choose, along with my 6m unit..will get them next weekend latest.
Thanks again for the feedback - picking up my new 110 or 125 on Saturday i hope.
I am borrowing a 120 crossover currently and struggled on Saturday in light wind (gusty marginal, 8-13kts - no one was windsurfing and i certainly would not plane with my 7.5 on freerace board) whilst my 16 yr old (80kg) got it dialed pretty quickly ie up on foil in the gusts and blasting back and forth with relative comfort, given he has been at it for less than 1 hour (he also found windfoiling immediately more intuitive for the first handful of sessions than me...damn youth eh). We were using the Ozone 6m and to be honest although i loved the stability i found the sheer size hard work in the light winds - to not catch the tips when pumping the board - im only 5'9 (but of course this is my first real go at this)
Then the wind came up to more like 18+kts (son was on 5.7m and 85 liter windsurf), and i also tried a naish 5.3 wing and it was SO much easier in the stronger wind - two small pumps and up and i was able to fly back and forth for 1/2 k without issue...gybes were impossible though! in the stronger wind (i could have been on my large wave gear), even after a hr or so just blasting and a bit of carving, the 120 already felt too big...maybe too long is actually more accurate (its 7'4 i think)
The smaller the board the lower u will be in the water so catching wing tips increases during early learning stages.
If you have good leg strength then the 110 will be your long term board.
Having said that I have both S25 110 and 125 and the 125 does not feel that much bigger than the 110.
The 125 S25 with pulled in nose and ultra carbon construction is way better than the previous version.
So if you are a slow learner and its an effort to go from kneeling to to standing go the 125 otherwise the 110.
Or if you want one board for Windwing and SUP foiling then definitely the 125.
Thanks Warwick
Had my 2nd session (with wind)...on the 120 and 2000 foil and 5.3 naish yesterday
Pumping goofy footed (i am regular) was hard in light winds..I can't seem to keep my body geometry correct with the Wing. But it was light..a guy was out on a formula windsurf board and 7.5m sail and wasn't planing.
Regular stance pumping a lot more intuitive but still could not translate that into planing
Then the wind picked up from 10kts to 15 to 18kts and it was all good...couple of.pumps and up and away and could do runs for a kilometer and started experimented pumping board in lulls etc. Even caught a small swell line. Actually the 5.3 felt too big in the gusts.
As a longtime windsurfer and Surf SUPer and done some windsurf foiling I and my son have found winging ie to get up and sustain flights WHEN THERE IS WIND remarkably easy...However low winds are proving a lot more difficult to get the technique dialled....i can pump but in light winds its a struggle to translate lift into fwd momentumm. Maybe 5.3 wing is too small as well.
Gybes still impossible..but I've only done 2 foil sessions (3 hrs total). Need to learn to keep feet locked and maintain switch.
Q. Does size board eg 110.vs125 have any bearing on learning to gybe you think?
I don't get why Naish don't publish the weight. I was interested in the 85L version. In the details it states "light weight.." yet doesn't tell you what that is!! If you are spending alot of money on a small board thats a crucial detail to leave out. I couldn't be arsed to find out and it kind of annoys me.. Lol. You wouldn't launch a new car and say "it's really fast.." and then not publish the figures.... Loads of brands do this including Wings... I think brands can be very patronising to us hungry consumers..
Can you tell there's no wind or swell atm...!!
Fyi.. I ordered the 85L v2 Fone Rocket Wing instead with published weight 5.4kgs.
Lighter weights can often mean more fragile and weaker so for me there's a happy medium and as long as it's not super heavy it's not a big deal.