105kg, I have surfed most of my life and am an advanced kite and wing foiler and now looking at getting into SUP foiling.
I have a 2022 Fanatic 5'4 95L for winging but this will be too small.
What size board and volume and brand do you recommend in Australia?
I imagine more length and volume are required for stability and to catch the small waves?
Can you demo stuff?
Fanatic and RRD make 140 liter wing/sup boards.
The smallest you can stand on plus 20 liters?
Since you wing, you might have less practice days on SUP/ foil than guys who only do one sport.
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105kg, I have surfed most of my life and am an advanced kite and wing foiler and now looking at getting into SUP foiling.
I have a 2022 Fanatic 5'4 95L for winging but this will be too small.
What size board and volume and brand do you recommend in Australia?
I imagine more length and volume are required for stability and to catch the small waves?
About same weight. Sup is mainly paddle technique. Learn to paddle a sup first fast and straight, lots of technique videos out there. Quickblades are the best. Board speed is needed to get you up on a wave or downwinding.
Sup foil is problematic because you want the smallest board you can stand on, but they are hard to paddle fast and straight. Lots of cheap longer sups on breeze that would be a good start point. Light is good.
I started sup foiling, after years of sup paddling, on a 7 6 Slingshot Outwit (140l). Great board light and strong then I moved down to 6 6 Smik which I still have. I have paddled a 5 11 board but it was hard to catch waves, felt great when up and flying.
Demo if you can.
I've been using a Sunova Aviator 6'4x29x115L for a few years (I'm 85kg so this is +30L)
Nice all round board, and I can also Downwind it.
Smik, One, Kalama also make good boards IMO.
A starboard Takeoff 6'4x130L might also be worth looking at.
ok so +20-30L is the formula.
Maybe the Starboard takeoff 6'4 x 130L or the Smik Slab 6'6" x 30" x 128L
Has anyone ridden these?
Thanks in advance, just trying to avoid a repeat of the issues (trying many boards) I had trying to find a wing board.
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ok so +20-30L is the formula.
Maybe the Starboard takeoff 6'4 x 130L or the Smik Slab 6'6" x 30" x 128L
Has anyone ridden these?
Thanks in advance, just trying to avoid a repeat of the issues (trying many boards) I had trying to find a wing board.
I'm quite a bit lighter than you but I did own a 95L x 6' Slab, wish I never sold it. I learnt to wing on it and also Sup foiled it a lot. Long enough to paddle easily and catch unbroken waves. I then went to a 5' board thinking it would be ok but far too short for paddling at speed and only good for catching steeper and breaking waves.
The original Slabs were bulletproof construction, if you can find one of these at the volume you're after go for it.
I did some SUP foiling (without foil) some years ago, so I'm sure I'll pick it up quickly again the paddling technique.
"The original Slabs were bulletproof construction" -> does that imply there's constructions issues with the latest slabs?
TBH - I'm leaning towards the 6'6" x 30" x 128L Smik lab, maybe a bit wide for my liking but I'll make it work for a first SUP foiling board
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I did some SUP foiling (without foil) some years ago, so I'm sure I'll pick it up quickly again the paddling technique.
"The original Slabs were bulletproof construction" -> does that imply there's constructions issues with the latest slabs?
TBH - I'm leaning towards the 6'6" x 30" x 128L Smik lab, maybe a bit wide for my liking but I'll make it work for a first SUP foiling board
Scotty makes a good board. Mine is over 2 years old and the newer ones are same construction.
@hilly so you've had both a Kalama E3 and you sold that and kept the Smik.
Does this imply the better board is Smik?
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@hilly so you've had both a Kalama E3 and you sold that and kept the Smik.
Does this imply the better board is Smik?
Different shapes. The Kalama was 6 foot and was amazingly stable for its size. I just found paddling hard because of the short length. I would like to try the 6 6. It felt better when up and riding. The Smik is super easy to ride and light. But you notice the extra 6 inches and it does not pop as easily and touch downs slow you down more due to rail shape.
In a perfect world I would have a 6 4 that is super light with a slippery rail shape. The starboard ticks a lot of boxes but getting one is hard. I have the 5 2 for wingding and it is awesome.
Are you an expert sup'er?
This looks like it could be a winner. www.seabreeze.com.au/Classifieds/Stand-Up-Paddle-Foils-and-Foil-boards/~4duvo/2022-Sunova-Casey-Aviator-6-8.aspx?_page=2&search=fuwpz2%2Bn4D3z2PJ2MNWnOQ%3D%3D
Also look for an a used 6'11" Jimmy lewis Flying V. Great boards for ease of paddling.
If not an expert, spend a few months on a big sup board learning how to paddle as using an oar to push ones self into a wave on a short wide piece of foam is not as easy as it looks. I prone foil most of the time, but in the summer my break is too crowed and theres's an empty wave that's too far out to sea for me to sit in the water by myself, so I sup it. Last year I dropped from a 6'6" x 29 125ltr to a Kalama 5'10 E3. At 85 kg it's almost too floaty for the water line. The difference in paddle was night and day. I can literally paddle circles around the old board (because all I can paddle is in circles!) Seriously harder to use both in terms of straight line and in wave catching. So don't make it hard on yourself. If you're learning to paddle too, you'll need a long board like the JL 7'5" and for your weight, that might be the ticket anyway.... or try proning your wing board.
The tiny board that is rad on the good days is a misery when the waves are small and weak, and there's current and a 5kt cross chop, and you're falling in every 30 seconds and not making the waves. Definitely recommend doing yourself a favour and getting some volume and under you, and length for easy paddling, especially while learning. I left for prone foil last while, but my buddy's stayed on his 7.2 JP maybe 130L, which should be too big to rip, but he's getting 2 for 1s and nice turns. So it can be done. He's since moved to something smaller and is ripping even harder of course, but that's after 2-3 years of giv'n'r with the big board.
We have a few Egg proto's coming that are 6'4 x 26 x 125L - 130L. These will be sweet for the bigger riders as the Egg boards are so bloody good. haha well i think they are anyway
Once tested these will be sold as Ben and I are only 77kg so wont need them so someone might be able to grab a sick board well before anyone else even gets to see them for a while.
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105kg, I have surfed most of my life and am an advanced kite and wing foiler and now looking at getting into SUP foiling.
I have a 2022 Fanatic 5'4 95L for winging but this will be too small.
What size board and volume and brand do you recommend in Australia?
I imagine more length and volume are required for stability and to catch the small waves?
Im similar weight highly recommend Kalama 6'6" 139L V2 for a heavy weight can't beat it, very stabile even in 10 of wind and paddles great, real good build quality.Was thinking about V3 6'0' 130L for real clean days for a bit less swing weight, then using my trusty V2 139L on more challenging days, if you can get one Id grab it
What about a Cabrinha 2021 X-Fly foil board, 6'10" x 30" x 4.7" x 131L. It feels really light, had a look at one at local shop.
Is that too long for me, the volume seems about right?
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What about a Cabrinha 2021 X-Fly foil board, 6'10" x 30" x 4.7" x 131L. It feels really light, had a look at one at local shop.
Is that too long for me, the volume seems about right?
Good starting board.
I ride the One 6'1 Egg 108ltr for SUP foil and love it - Carbon Elite construction so only 5.8kg - used to have a Sunova Casey 6'2" - which was great, but probably 2kgs heavier. When I switched the One, it felt so much smaller once on foil because of the low weight which reduced swing weight (as well as the further forward box placement). I am 85kg, so at 105kg - talk to Paul J above about getting that 6'4" Egg prototype... such good boards!
And... I end up using my Egg a lot for the light wind, marginal wing ding days... especially if surf is big and wind is light... really gets up on foil so easily on the wing (which you want when heading back out in overhead surf!)
