Wing foil. I can start and end at my car. I am riding on foil the entire time. I have no fear or not being able to get back on foil. I don't have to deal with annoying surfers.
I would say prone foil, but ... annoying surfers.
Prefer a good prone foil over any discipline. Then i'd say Downwinding after that.
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Like the post says, which one do you prefer and why?
Sup / Down Wind, I ride my light short downwind sups like a prone board but with the paddle so able to catch anything:-)
SUP Downwind Foiling, then Prone Foiling in the Surf on tinny days when the waves a small & fat. If there are waves I am always on my Surfboards. NOT into winging "it's a sport not for me" I'd rather just use my my arms or a Paddle. Preferably my arms.
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Prefer a good prone foil over any discipline. Then i'd say Downwinding after that.
Ditto..mind you if you added "tow foil" to the list I'm not so sure then maybe..prone, tow, DW, wing then kite
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Prefer a good prone foil over any discipline. Then i'd say Downwinding after that.
What does the prone foil offer you the others don't?
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SUP downwind > Prone surf >>>> wing foil
What does the downwind offer you that the prone surf doesn't?
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SUP Downwind Foiling, then Prone Foiling in the Surf on tinny days when the waves a small & fat. If there are waves I am always on my Surfboards. NOT into winging "it's a sport not for me" I'd rather just use my my arms or a Paddle. Preferably my arms.
What don't you like about winging?
Sup DW foil.
Why?
Perth coastal conditions.
If I lived somewhere with decent swell I'd do more prone and wing but with our almost complete lack of swell and our great downwind conditions it's a no brainer for me.
For some the logistics of the car shuffles puts them off, however with a good crew of downwind mates the friendship and camaraderie is part of what I enjoy and having a girlfriend that is into sup downwind as well makes it easy as.
Select to expand quotesupguythesecond said..Downwinder said..
SUP Downwind Foiling, then Prone Foiling in the Surf on tinny days when the waves a small & fat. If there are waves I am always on my Surfboards. NOT into winging "it's a sport not for me" I'd rather just use my my arms or a Paddle. Preferably my arms.
What don't you like about winging?
Winging, It's just not for me. I've watched guys Winging in the flat all they Do is go "Up & Back, Up & Back" I find that Quite Boring - then I hear from Guys that Winging gives there Shoulders a Hard Time. So Winging is Not For Me. I have friends who love Winging.
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For some the logistics of the car shuffles puts them off, however with a good crew of downwind mates the friendship and camaraderie is part of what I enjoy and having a girlfriend that is into sup downwind as well makes it easy as.
I'm with you nightlines. The Froth Is Real - Car Shuffles on Maui is the Best Everyone is Frothing with all the Talk Stories that go down, it's The Best Vibe Ever. If I Could I Would Live On MAUI All Summer and Be A Hardcore Downwind Paddler.
Select to expand quoteDownwinder said..supguythesecond said..Downwinder said..
SUP Downwind Foiling, then Prone Foiling in the Surf on tinny days when the waves a small & fat. If there are waves I am always on my Surfboards. NOT into winging "it's a sport not for me" I'd rather just use my my arms or a Paddle. Preferably my arms.
What don't you like about winging?
Winging, It's just not for me. I've watched guys Winging in the flat all they Do is go "Up & Back, Up & Back" I find that Quite Boring - then I hear from Guys that Winging gives there Shoulders a Hard Time. So Winging is Not For Me. I have friends who love Winging.
Would winging in waves solve this problem or is the also limiting? Down proning feel more like surfing cause you can do more moves, for want of a better word?
Everyone like EVERYONE who i know and has learnt to DW paddle rates that as the best form of the sport. Winging - bla can take or leave it. Has its place. Love the pump and link on the prone. I do like a long DW wing with the smallest wing possible when 95 percent flagged in good runners.
Small board and nothing in your hands makes tow foil the winner for me. Over long boards and logistics (relying on other people) after years of SUP dw paddling.
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Everyone like EVERYONE who i know and has learnt to DW paddle rates that as the best form of the sport.
I'll buck the trend for you.
dw is just a way for lonely surfers to add in a locker room aspect to the sport.
DW has so little appeal to me. Prone perhaps although with my balance that would be a long hill to climb.
Wingfoiling is about right. Don't need to rely on anyone, works in a wide array of conditions and I like being wind powered.
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Everyone like EVERYONE who i know and has learnt to DW paddle rates that as the best form of the sport. Winging - bla can take or leave it. Has its place. Love the pump and link on the prone. I do like a long DW wing with the smallest wing possible when 95 percent flagged in good runners.
Or you could downwind foil with a windsurf sail, power-carve the windswells, flying down faces at 20+ knots and easily sail back (again at 20 knots) to where you started 
1) SUP Surf Foil (This list will allow you to foil 99.5% of days)
2) Downwind SUP Foil
3) Micro Wave SUP Foil
4) No wind Downwinding
5) Winging
6) Tow Foiling
7) Flat Water Paddle ups
I FROTH over doing something that was formerly impossible. Surf SUPs meant you could catch big waves and INFINITELY big waves early and easy. Foils made the crap days great. I don't want to yuck on others yum but in my opinion Downwinding is the apex of the sport.
When you share tracks and have a good surf day with 2 or 3 or 4 miles of tracks at a surf break and then your downwind friend shares his 25 mile run averaging 17.5 mph what can you say (to yourself) other than "I have to get better." Piros might say 'lose the weight and try harder.'
Flat water paddle ups SUCK. Downwind logistics SUCK but once you get over that the world is your oyster.
Prone = independent and radical
SUP = independent and more wave options
Wing= independent and endless rides ,but more complicated
DW = not independent and endless rides
Tow = not independent and lots of waves and most radical
Kite = independent and endless rides but complicated and restricted
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SUP = independent and more wave options
Nice summary!
For the SUP, I would say "different" than just "more".
SUP pros: take off on flatter, fatter, faster waves... and even on the flat for some.
SUP cons: harder with chop (balance) and shorebreak (the paddle and the board volume)
Yesterday I was out at high tide in non-foil SUP with a prone surf foiler. I would never had attempted going out (and in!) through the Hossegor shorebreak with a SUP foil.
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SUP = independent and more wave options
Nice summary!
For the SUP, I would say "different" than just "more".
SUP pros: take off on flatter, fatter, faster waves... and even on the flat for some.
SUP cons: harder with chop (balance) and shorebreak (the paddle and the board volume)
Yesterday I was out at high tide in non-foil SUP with a prone surf foiler. I would never had attempted going out (and in!) through the Hossegor shorebreak with a SUP foil.
For sure , there is some fantastic places that you can paddle in on a DW SUP that would be impossible on anything else.Lately I have been out on river entrance sand bars paddling up on swells that don't break ,but are steep enough and getting 1 km + rides !. Even when the tide starts to run out you can still hold ground enough to catch swells.
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DW has so little appeal to me. Prone perhaps although with my balance that would be a long hill to climb.
Wingfoiling is about right. Don't need to rely on anyone, works in a wide array of conditions and I like being wind powered.
wings eventually get in your way when DW foiling except (and even then) if you can get away with a really small wing 3m or less. Love to Daw paddle if my body let me. one day 
Select to expand quotekobo said..colas said..kobo said..
SUP = independent and more wave options
Nice summary!
For the SUP, I would say "different" than just "more".
SUP pros: take off on flatter, fatter, faster waves... and even on the flat for some.
SUP cons: harder with chop (balance) and shorebreak (the paddle and the board volume)
Yesterday I was out at high tide in non-foil SUP with a prone surf foiler. I would never had attempted going out (and in!) through the Hossegor shorebreak with a SUP foil.
For sure , there is some fantastic places that you can paddle in on a DW SUP that would be impossible on anything else.Lately I have been out on river entrance sand bars paddling up on swells that don't break ,but are steep enough and getting 1 km + rides !. Even when the tide starts to run out you can still hold ground enough to catch swells.
This is exactly where I want to ride. Have a few spots like this at home. In these conditions are you hitting those super high speeds people get down winding? And also are you falling off the board and slamming into flat water off with speed often? I want to get into the sport but don't want the head slams.
I was thinking of winging in these river waves and hoping to not get too much speed up so if I fall I'm not falling at speed and also if I fall I can use the wing to keep my head up and make sure my body breaks the surface tension before my head as much as possible. Is this realistic?
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And also are you falling off the board and slamming into flat water off with speed often? I want to get into the sport but don't want the head slams.
I dont foil downwind, but got my share of high speed wipeouts (surf, SUP and foil), and I dont think head slams are an issue per se... except for eardrum rupture if you fall flat on your ear.
It happened to me (and my doctor... first day of his mentawai bodyboard trip ) and since then I always wear custom earplugs with a wide external part to protect from ear slams. I would recommend always wearing an ear protection while foiling (ear plug, helmet, hood, hat with ear flaps, headband, ...). Losing your balance to the point of not being able to stand up is something I would not like to happen on a downwind run. Plus eardrums never repair completely: they are made of 2 skin layers, and only one heals.
Been kiteboarding, kitefoiling, wingfoiling for years and now prone and supfoil dw.
supfoil dw is by far my favorite for the challenge, freedom, endless carve, technique, fitness and accomplishment aspects. if I had more swell and less wind would like prone and sup more.
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DW has so little appeal to me. Prone perhaps although with my balance that would be a long hill to climb.
Wingfoiling is about right. Don't need to rely on anyone, works in a wide array of conditions and I like being wind powered.
wings eventually get in your way when DW foiling except (and even then) if you can get away with a really small wing 3m or less. Love to Daw paddle if my body let me. one day
What stops you?
Select to expand quotesupguythesecond said..eppo said..Grantmac said..
DW has so little appeal to me. Prone perhaps although with my balance that would be a long hill to climb.
Wingfoiling is about right. Don't need to rely on anyone, works in a wide array of conditions and I like being wind powered.
wings eventually get in your way when DW foiling except (and even then) if you can get away with a really small wing 3m or less. Love to Daw paddle if my body let me. one day
What stops you?
shoulder and knee issues from 20 years of pounding an over size kite with a tiny twin tip.
But . after the surgeries have done their thing hopefully this summer. All my DW wings this last season (and there were plenty) i was the only winger, the rest DW paddlers. They call me "so 2020". 
Select to expand quoteeppo said..supguythesecond said..eppo said..Grantmac said..
DW has so little appeal to me. Prone perhaps although with my balance that would be a long hill to climb.
Wingfoiling is about right. Don't need to rely on anyone, works in a wide array of conditions and I like being wind powered.
wings eventually get in your way when DW foiling except (and even then) if you can get away with a really small wing 3m or less. Love to Daw paddle if my body let me. one day
What stops you?
shoulder and knee issues from 20 years of pounding an over size kite with a tiny twin tip.
But . after the surgeries have done their thing hopefully this summer. All my DW wings this last season (and there were plenty) i was the only winger, the rest DW paddlers. They call me "so 2020".
Were you on an oversized kite so that you would be able to do it even if the winds were light?
