Select to expand quoteMon said..
I am now going to come and have a look in your shop 
We have sold out of our Bam Bams but more than happy to let you guys use mine. Give me a heads up though before you come and I will make sure it is in the boot. The staff have a few customs coming in and I am sure they would be keen to demo them out as well.
Select to expand quoteburleighlocal said..
Hi Tim..Is there a particular reasoning behind the swell tail? rather than say a rounded tail?
I agree with Colas that a pulled in tail would create more "hip" through the fin area alowing for tighter turns but I also love the leverage and drive this straighter edge projects which is similar to a square tail on a shortboard.
The swallow is still pulled in enough to allow for rail to rail transitions and the overall tail area seams to scoot through flat sections similar to retro fish.
I'm also a lazy paddler 
and the extra tail area gives greater stability in choppy conditions when compaired to a rounded pin. Different horses for different courses I guess, and it all equates to spending a bit of time adjusting to each board.
Over 7500 standup boards a year; that's 21 sups a day (7 days a week)! is that just out of the 4 stores?
Thats pretty good going and would make you bigger than any surfboard manufacturer in Australia as well!!
+ your normal surfboards; bonus.
congratulations On your success- good local company
Select to expand quotejoeyjojo said..
Over 7500 standup boards a year; that's 21 sups a day (7 days a week)! is that just out of the 4 stores?
Thats pretty good going and would make you bigger than any surfboard manufacturer in Australia as well!!
+ your normal surfboards; bonus.
congratulations On your success- good local company
Thanks for the vote of confidence joeyjojo.
I never really defined it like that. If it was just the 4 stores it would be around 5 Sups per day which is really achievable with the right product. We also have our website, 3rd party websites, wholesale distribution and a few other sale avenues. We have over 47 staff now so to keep everything in motion we need to do these sort of numbers. This year we are opening a few new stores and have been approached by a couple of notible SUP brands to be stockists of their product so it will be a really interesting year. I still prefer to think of us as a humble family run business.
Thanks again for the words of encouragement mate.
Tim Beban
Just had a look at your website Tim.Its very impressive.
Keep up the good work
www.thesurfboardwarehouse.com.au/
Great response to the haters Tim.............gotta love it when that crap backfires
It prompted me to check your website, am keen to drop into your shop when next on the Goldy. Do you normally have the bam bam available for demo
Waxer, maybe you should get one to show us first hand
Yeah!yeah! Get the fat old guy to buy one and when he can't do anything with it ,buy it off of him cheap
Select to expand quoteSelect to expand quoteTimBurleigh said..TalkToMe said..
The guy behind Atlantis has a bad rep. Not only has he been dogged by a bad rep for shonky boards and screwing industry over, he had to move not once but twice because it got so ugly.
Lie down with dogs....
Hi guys,
My name is Tim Beban and I am the owner of The Surfboard Warehouse.
Unfortunately I have come forth to dispel some myths and untruths I often see posted on this forum by the same offenders. These are usually people posing under fake names having direct association with opposing brands. You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to see through their smoke and mirrors. Especially when they post photos and they don’t realize their location and company name shows up where they post from… oh nooo!
I actively advertise on Seabreeze in the correct manner and abide by the rules of this forum. I am not here to sprook my brands or for personal gain but merely to set the record straight.
I lived in my unit on Burleigh Point for 15 years but recently moved into a house on Talle creek with my wife and 2 year old son for the love of Supping… not because a hooded gang of ugly industry folk chased me down with burning pitch forks.
That made us all piss ourselves laughing… seriously entertaining!!
We currently employ 47 staff in Australia, We have 4 large warehouses, 5 retail outlets, a dog, a cat and a gold fish named Robbie.
We have been winners 2 years running in the Gold Coast Business Excellence Awards. Our business more than doubles in size each year due to the fact we sell bloody strong amazing boards not “shonky” product. Pretty hard to warrant “shonky” products for 12 months I would say, plenty have tried and failed.
In my opinion the best way to source the truth about a product is go straight to the source and ask your local ding repairer. On the Gold Coast we use “The Ding Shop” and he will tell you the truth about all boards and brands.. good and bad.
My wife and I started the company only 4 years ago, we have no investors other than repeat customers, we pay our debts, we pay our taxes and we pay our staff. I design the boards and seek 2 professional shapers advice on all prototypes as well as some “industry” folk who advise on lamination. We invest heavily in Good Blanks, Glass, Resins and also love to challenge the common miss conception “You get what you pay for” by re-enforcing our boards with Kevlar, Carbon and PVC and on occasion running our boards over with 2 tonne vehicles to silence the critics (obviously need to work on this). Our boards are made in the same factories who produce the majority of “high end” boards you see on the market for twice the price. I have kept the photos for a rainy day.
We sold over 7500 stand up paddle boards in 2014 which if I’m not mistaken makes us one of the largest SUP distributors in the “Industry”. Hang on.. does that make us industry?? I don’t own a pitch fork though?
It only takes one Douchebag with an ulterior motive posting defamatory remarks about someone he doesn’t know from a bar of soap to motivate an already extremely motivated human. The company you are associated with and that you, sorry, your “brother” keeps referring to has already been warned about defamation.
I have 47 pissed off staff members who’s lively hoods you mockingly threaten every time you think it is a good idea to post untruths.
I’ll be at our showroom at 20 Christine Ave all next week if you would like to pop in and lay down with us dogs for a chat.
Lots of Love,
Tim Beban (man with a face)
Tim your resilience in the face of adversity is something Master Splinter would be proud of. We could use someone like you to assist us against "The Shredder".
One another note, my turtle self is not sure which size board to go with. I like the waterborn evoke range and am mixed between the 8'10 and the 9'4. I have previously made the mistake of buying a board that didnt float me properly (was great on the waves but struggled for stability). I'm about 100kg on a non pizza night. Currently paddling around on a 11ft monster.
Select to expand quoteTimBurleigh said..TalkToMe said..
The guy behind Atlantis has a bad rep. Not only has he been dogged by a bad rep for shonky boards and screwing industry over, he had to move not once but twice because it got so ugly.
Lie down with dogs....
Hi guys,
My name is Tim Beban and I am the owner of The Surfboard Warehouse.
Unfortunately I have come forth to dispel some myths and untruths I often see posted on this forum by the same offenders. These are usually people posing under fake names having direct association with opposing brands. You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to see through their smoke and mirrors. Especially when they post photos and they don’t realize their location and company name shows up where they post from… oh nooo! I actively advertise on Seabreeze in the correct manner and abide by the rules of this forum. I am not here to sprook my brands or for personal gain but merely to set the record straight.
I lived in my unit on Burleigh Point for 15 years but recently moved into a house on Talle creek with my wife and 2 year old son for the love of Supping… not because a hooded gang of ugly industry folk chased me down with burning pitch forks.
That made us all piss ourselves laughing… seriously entertaining!!
We currently employ 47 staff in Australia, We have 4 large warehouses, 5 retail outlets, a dog, a cat and a gold fish named Robbie.
We have been winners 2 years running in the Gold Coast Business Excellence Awards. Our business more than doubles in size each year due to the fact we sell bloody strong amazing boards not “shonky” product. Pretty hard to warrant “shonky” products for 12 months I would say, plenty have tried and failed.
In my opinion the best way to source the truth about a product is go straight to the source and ask your local ding repairer. On the Gold Coast we use “The Ding Shop” and he will tell you the truth about all boards and brands.. good and bad.
My wife and I started the company only 4 years ago, we have no investors other than repeat customers, we pay our debts, we pay our taxes and we pay our staff. I design the boards and seek 2 professional shapers advice on all prototypes as well as some “industry” folk who advise on lamination. We invest heavily in Good Blanks, Glass, Resins and also love to challenge the common miss conception “You get what you pay for” by re-enforcing our boards with Kevlar, Carbon and PVC and on occasion running our boards over with 2 tonne vehicles to silence the critics (obviously need to work on this). Our boards are made in the same factories who produce the majority of “high end” boards you see on the market for twice the price. I have kept the photos for a rainy day.
We sold over 7500 stand up paddle boards in 2014 which if I’m not mistaken makes us one of the largest SUP distributors in the “Industry”. Hang on.. does that make us industry?? I don’t own a pitch fork though?
It only takes one Douchebag with an ulterior motive posting defamatory remarks about someone he doesn’t know from a bar of soap to motivate an already extremely motivated human. The company you are associated with and that you, sorry, your “brother” keeps referring to has already been warned about defamation.
I have 47 pissed off staff members who’s lively hoods you mockingly threaten every time you think it is a good idea to post untruths.
I’ll be at our showroom at 20 Christine Ave all next week if you would like to pop in and lay down with us dogs for a chat.
Lots of Love,
Tim Beban (man with a face)
Well spoken Tim.
It is hard to get good / honest info from people such as yourself. I myself hate sifting through all the crap some people can post online, to get the real info / help I need when researching something new.
All the Best
Locky.
Select to expand quoteHopped online Wednesday night after being away from Seabreeze and saw that I was suspended and then saw all of this above today.
I’ll make an attempt to reply to the feedback, in a more civil manner than I may have previously done so.
I’m a shortboard surfer, and also a mini-mal rider from time to time. Semi-keen on the idea of SUPing, hence my interest in Seabreeze or more specifically the SUP forums. Have lived on the Goldy and elsewhere on and off since my teens. I joined here last Sept to ask and learn about SUP’ing. I work in digital media, and am away from the Coast for several months due to work.
Regarding my first post (which has been deleted but referred to board snaps and fin plugs popping out etc.), yes, I stand by that based on my own experience and that of several others I know well. Perhaps it might have been a dodgy shipment as it sometimes happens in all industries. It’s a forum, and my delivery aside, I should be able to communicate that in some way, a better way, but some way just the same.
Regarding my second post, perhaps we should let that be as that was a few years ago and in reference to the surfboard industry on the Gold Coast. That kind of comment may be taboo here as well perhaps. I should have bitten my tongue and not posted that. At the risk of sounding like a politician, I retract that statement.
Regarding mostly everything else and your past issues that you mentioned that you’ve been confronted with, I’m simply lost there with what you’re saying. Perhaps that lot is SUP stuff and not shortboard stuff, which I was referring to.
I’m a bit sore with the whole surfboard pop-out history we have seen on the Goldy over the last +5 years and the rest. This subject may be a worn out one, but it is still close to home for me. A few mates had their labels and livelihoods stripped bare due to the Made in China shift. You could argue that that was simply capitalism and market trends, but what happened to supporting your local Aussie shaper and the rest of the industry. Maybe I’m just stuck in the past in that regard. I do know that the surf industry is a fickled one. That’s one of the reasons why I didn’t go in that direction.
Lastly, and at the risk of coming across confrontational again, I suggest that all brands/stores/industry owners should be formally identified and asked to pay some kind of special membership fee. Some posters on Seabreeze seem to have something along those lines, but not all.
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On the same subject, perhaps an updated Seabreeze site too could have each poster’s IP address showing, just like on Hot Copper (share trading & investment forum), which would show who is swimming with no clothes on (think multi-nickname posters etc).
I think that most posters would prefer a forum that allows for discussion without brands. However, I am aware that you could easily argue that the site needs revenue and that some brands may feel the need to defend themselves at times, such as above.
Perhaps better forum moderation is something also to look at, along with one’s own delivery of posting, case in point again.
I’m going to leave it there, for good too. I won’t be replying again here on this thread. You could PM me if there is a need but I’ll be mozzing on over somewhere else.
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All the best.
TalkToMe, I would say 3 things:
We all hear rumors. I even heard some about Atlantis (not the ones you wrote, though), but as I have no way to verify them, I have no idea if they are true, and I wont repeat them. Also, I have heard so many of these rumors directed against Gong that I could verify first-hand were false that I became a bit wary. Gong, being a mail order operation, attracted a lot of hate from people in the industry, and some began telling very nasty and totally false rumors. That mail order boards made abroad can be a bad thing globally is arguable, but local business should fight with being proud of their superior workmanship, not by playing nasty tricks, which will fire back once customers find out they are false.
Also, brands can have bad batches, and can change factories. It is not because brand X had weak fin plugs 2 years go that it is still the case today.
Finally, "ordinary" riders cannot try lots of boards, and once they buy one, psychological they will defend themselves and praise the only brand they know. So just thinking only shop/brand owners have biased opinions is naive... "brands/stores/industry owners should be formally identified and asked to pay some kind of special membership fee" is what is done on the Zone, resulting in a disaster there: people who pay the fee can pimp their brands as much as they want, and other people a bit involved in the sport (like me) are simply banned.
Select to expand quoteDanny Lee said..
Well that was three minutes I won't get back... on with the show!Select to expand quoteTalkToMe said..
Hopped online Wednesday night after being away from Seabreeze and saw that I was suspended and then saw all of this above today.
I?ll make an attempt to reply to the feedback, in a more civil manner than I may have previously done so.
I?m a shortboard surfer, and also a mini-mal rider from time to time. Semi-keen on the idea of SUPing, hence my interest in Seabreeze or more specifically the SUP forums. Have lived on the Goldy and elsewhere on and off since my teens. I joined here last Sept to ask and learn about SUP?ing. I work in digital media, and am away from the Coast for several months due to work.
Regarding my first post (which has been deleted but referred to board snaps and fin plugs popping out etc.), yes, I stand by that based on my own experience and that of several others I know well. Perhaps it might have been a dodgy shipment as it sometimes happens in all industries. It?s a forum, and my delivery aside, I should be able to communicate that in some way, a better way, but some way just the same.
Regarding my second post, perhaps we should let that be as that was a few years ago and in reference to the surfboard industry on the Gold Coast. That kind of comment may be taboo here as well perhaps. I should have bitten my tongue and not posted that. At the risk of sounding like a politician, I retract that statement.
Regarding mostly everything else and your past issues that you mentioned that you?ve been confronted with, I?m simply lost there with what you?re saying. Perhaps that lot is SUP stuff and not shortboard stuff, which I was referring to.
I?m a bit sore with the whole surfboard pop-out history we have seen on the Goldy over the last +5 years and the rest. This subject may be a worn out one, but it is still close to home for me. A few mates had their labels and livelihoods stripped bare due to the Made in China shift. You could argue that that was simply capitalism and market trends, but what happened to supporting your local Aussie shaper and the rest of the industry. Maybe I?m just stuck in the past in that regard. I do know that the surf industry is a fickled one. That?s one of the reasons why I didn?t go in that direction.
Lastly, and at the risk of coming across confrontational again, I suggest that all brands/stores/industry owners should be formally identified and asked to pay some kind of special membership fee. Some posters on Seabreeze seem to have something along those lines, but not all.
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On the same subject, perhaps an updated Seabreeze site too could have each poster?s IP address showing, just like on Hot Copper (share trading & investment forum), which would show who is swimming with no clothes on (think multi-nickname posters etc).
I think that most posters would prefer a forum that allows for discussion without brands. However, I am aware that you could easily argue that the site needs revenue and that some brands may feel the need to defend themselves at times, such as above.
Perhaps better forum moderation is something also to look at, along with one?s own delivery of posting, case in point again.
I?m going to leave it there, for good too. I won?t be replying again here on this thread. You could PM me if there is a need but I?ll be mozzing on over somewhere else.
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Here we go again ladies and Gentlemen?.
Well looks like someone is trying to wind the windows up and blend into other surfcraft forums so they don?t get caught out.
Unfortunately I am going to choose to defend myself as opposed to letting sleeping dogs lie (excuse the pun).
It seems "Talk To Me?" is not only utilizing this forum to sprook the brand he is in bed with (check past posts before he deletes them), but also to incite a political vendetta against me and my business for personal reasons. The company that you "support" so heavily online is also producing ?clear skin? boards manufactured in China. Ignite this debate on a shortboard forum instead of slandering me on a SUP forum.
It is also very suspicious that someone who is only (quote) "Semi-keen on the idea of SUPing" posts frequently to this forum sprooking the same brand in the majority of posts while attempting to stay at arms reach. It is even more irregular that you claim to have snapped your 10'6 Naish Nalu recently? even though you are toying with the whole "idea of Suping". Did you reverse over someone's at the beach mate? Or are you mocking everyone on this forum.
I agree with you that your communication was "poor".
I would actually like to elaborate on that and say that it was and is downright disgraceful! The way you are trying to back your way out of the corner you threw yourself into is cowardly and unprofessional. You picked this debate.. don't run away just yet, I'm only getting started.
"Talk To Me" throws up the suggestion that these forums need to be moderated and that all "brands/stores/industry owners should be formally identified" . Thoughts anyone? Hell I already threw myself under that bus. I personaly think that if individuals stopped talking smack about other companies you wouldn?t need to suggest this and I could then sign up with a cool name like ?Double Standards?.
Opinion is one thing but to slander based on assumption and political gain is another.
I say just delete yourself and webworld would be a better place.
On the subject of transparency though, and without being hypocritical, what's your real name and who do you work for?
Lets get the ball rolling now and swim nude. I love swimming nude.
A simple "Sorry I F#$ked up and had a hidden agenda" would suffice. Don't continue this by making flimsy excuses and lying to everyone.
Delete yourself so that we can get on with learning, sharing ideas and supporting this sport.
You don't need to PM me, you know who I am and where I work.
Tim Beban
The Surfboard Warehouse
My my it's quiet in here these days.... I can hear the crickets saying...talk to me....
Tim, I really wish you would send some boards down to SA so we could try them
Crickets maybe dormant on this post but some new birdies are singing a fine tune elsewhere:)
Where are you at and what waves are you near? Always looking for an excuse for a surf trip with an array of new boards.
Always a few birdies chirpin ... some just like the sound of their own note.
Home of the famous SA SUP Crew down here Tim :) Tha Dogman frequents these parts so we can't be doing too bad
When there's not waves there is plenty of flat water action around with weekly social paddles/races/ down winders and when there is a trickle of a wave we have the mid coast a stones throw from town and then the Victor Harbour region for some bigger fun.
Love to see a Bam Bam in person and have a crack.
Heaps of Minions around and fondness of all SUPs small.
Just had Hobie do a demo day last week with the Naish Nisco1 comp on Sunday.
Pretty healthy and still growing SUP scene in SA that's for sure. Would love to see you head down
keen as to demo one of these, probably a 7'2. What fins would people be suggesting as a good upgrade?
Select to expand quoteCarterSUPhysio said..
keen as to demo one of these, probably a 7'2. What fins would people be suggesting as a good upgrade?
Hey CarterSUPhysio,
We have a 7'2 Carbon available to Demo. Its our most popular demo board so give us a call 1800 983 227 to lock it in.
Also just arrived is a 7'6 which is also available.
I'm using Shapers Power Quads in my Bam Bam, which gives the board plenty of drive.
You won't look back mate.
I can't get off my 7'2
The Allwaves are still gathering dust.
Never demo'd, never practised in calm water - just straight into surf - it is amazing
I got shapers quads from surf fx $119
cheers guys. Got some shapers quads on and took it out in the strong southerly yesterday arvo at palmy! Balance wise was obviousy more work but totally manageable even in mega chop. The only things I struggled with would be trying to pick a spot to paddle from when paddling for a wave. The board turns so quickly with each paddle stroke, I find myself catching a rail as i'm skew - if when i'm on the wave - but i'm sure this is just a getting used to the board thing. Holy **** it's quick though, very much not used to the speed and found myself getting bucked a bit. But all making me super keen for good clean surf and more practice!
Select to expand quoteCarterSUPhysio said..
The board turns so quickly with each paddle stroke, I find myself catching a rail as i'm skew
Yup, you will have to "un-learn" a bit what works on longer SUPs:
On a longer SUP, you can build up speed by paddling before take off.
On a 7', it is no use: the board does not have the inertia to carry on the speed between paddle strokes. And every paddle stroke is a risk (row, unbalance, ...)
So try to paddle gingerly to just position yourself and aim to paddle hard just for the take off, in 2 strokes timed with the "bump" of the wave lifting you.
Select to expand quotecolas said..CarterSUPhysio said..
The board turns so quickly with each paddle stroke, I find myself catching a rail as i'm skew
Yup, you will have to "un-learn" a bit what works on longer SUPs:
On a longer SUP, you can build up speed by paddling before take off.
On a 7', it is no use: the board does not have the inertia to carry on the speed between paddle strokes. And every paddle stroke is a risk (row, unbalance, ...)
So try to paddle gingerly to just position yourself and aim to paddle hard just for the take off, in 2 strokes timed with the "bump" of the wave lifting you.
for sure! that's great advice, thanks Colas. It definately is all about picking your spot well. Looking forward to my next sesh
Hear hear! Looking forward to my next go on the little rocket on Thursday! Hope those winds stay offshore!
Ha! Bought my first carbon Bam bam today. Definitely need to unlearn my wave catching technique as suggested by Colas. Man they spin around if you paddle hard. I have a small 7" short light paddle I didn't use today. My guess is that would help with the spin problem too. Ain't it great learning new skills!
Welcome to the bambam club Dr Gas. You will love it. I find I have to be pretty well right in the take off zone on it, so no more getting right out behind all the proners and paddling in. As Colas said its a whole different approach. So much so that now I'm so used to bambam, when I got back on the old Allwave 9'1 today I really got the wobbles quite seriously for a few minutes (sounds really weird but I actually struggled to balance the 9'1 for a while)
I did get a nice new 7" carbon paddle (supposedly $470 worth for $220) to go with it, but find I prefer my old 8.75" repaired fanatic paddle (mainly because it seems to help my balance in the messy chop/backwash etc) So the 7" paddle will be used when/if I use the old Allwaves
I've only been out on it once! Hoping this afternoon that southerly stays gentle and I can have another go with these tips - fanging for another go!
Here is an example on how to paddle for take off (here on a 6'10" Gong Fatal, similar to the Bam Bam)
