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Created by CJ83 > 9 months ago, 1 Feb 2014
CJ83
VIC, 44 posts
2 Feb 2014 12:36AM
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G'day, pretty new to the breeze but thought I'd post this as I didn't find much about it when searching... and it turned out pretty good.
I brought a 12'6 race board off the breeze and upon close inspection at home there were a couple of small cracks in the nose which didn't look like much but were soft to push on and opened up quite easily. So I thought best fix them now. Was going to just put some araldite or similar over them but that wouldn't have fixed them properly. So this is what I did...
I took a blade and cut out the soft cracked glass, then sanded the area for better adhesion.
I used Sellers Aqua epoxy putty, 8 bucks at Bunnings, and pushed it hard into the holes and put a thin layer ( approx 3-5mm, most of which was sanded off) over the nose for increased strength.
Let set, takes an hour to harden. Then sand, sand and sand some more till I was happy with the profile. I used 400,800,1200 grit wet n dry.
Just need to paint and it's good as new, kind of.
Was super easy and worked a treat.
Hope someone finds it useful.

Ooroo











DavidJohn
VIC, 17460 posts
2 Feb 2014 12:41AM
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Thanks

Reddog74
QLD, 52 posts
2 Feb 2014 11:37AM
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yeah thanks CJ83??.i,ve got a few little cracks and chips on my board but have just been covering it up with extra rail tape until now? after seeing your quick (and cheap) advice on your fix it method? i,m off to my local buntings to do the same thing !

GizzieNZ
4102 posts
2 Feb 2014 12:27PM
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Think long term if its a board that you value its better to spend extra money for a quality two pot epoxy repair kit......if its like "two ships meeting in the night" go the bunnings way by all means

CJ83
VIC, 44 posts
2 Feb 2014 4:40PM
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I was heading that direction giz as it is the right way to do it, buts it messy stuff and hard to contain in small areas...and I'm inpatient so thought I'd try this stuff. It's a 2 part putty that you knead together, fumes are just as strong and similar to resin once combined. Larger repairs I'd be using resin.

Let us know ya go reddog, fun way to spend the arvo giving the board some TLC
Clint

MickMc
VIC, 452 posts
9 Feb 2014 12:08AM
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Epoxy putty is great. Fixed a ding with it two years ago with it and still perfect. So much better than the solar cure stuff or araldyte.... Both of which fall out after a few months. Heaps easier to work with too. Have to get around to painting over the grey one day

CJ83
VIC, 44 posts
9 Feb 2014 2:08AM
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Awesome glad to hear it's gonna last the distance. Might make a bit more effort on the paint now...

Ricey1
QLD, 44 posts
10 Feb 2014 6:01PM
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What type of paint would you use over the putty? I have done a similar fix on one of my boards, with resin, but unsure what paint to use to match the board colour/finish

colas
5064 posts
10 Feb 2014 4:14PM
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I would avoid the 2 components putty you mix with fingers. I found out that the slight grease / mucus you have on your fingers makes the repair not stick properly and may develop leaks.

My advice for a quick repair: 5 minutes epoxy glue (araldite or other brands) mixed with a lot of microspheres. You obtain a kind of putty paste that you can make as fluid as you want by dosing the microsphere, and will stick perfectly to the ding. When it becomes to harden, you can push it in place even more by pushing on it with some cooking paper that you use to unmold cakes. Do not use araldite alone, it will not harden enough to sand.

A even better solution is quick epoxy resin (20mn pot life), lots of microspheres, cooking paper on it + tape into place, and keep 1 hour at 40C after hardening to cure enough to sand.

In any case, always sand all the parts that the putty/glue/resin will touch, otherwise the repair will not stick.

And put the board in the sun, then in the shade to cool off and repair when the board is cooling, so that the pressure difference will pull the repair to the board rather than push it out.

For the paint, use car paint (spray cans or touch-up pens). Get the precise color from your board maker (in a color catalog: Pantone, RAL, ...). And always cover with clear, anti-UV car varnish. Sanding lightly + a quick spay of car varnish if also a quick way to make sand scratches disappear.

MickMc
VIC, 452 posts
10 Feb 2014 10:37PM
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colas said..

I would avoid the 2 components putty you mix with fingers. I found out that the slight grease / mucus you have on your fingers makes the repair not stick properly and may develop leaks.

My advice for a quick repair: 5 minutes epoxy glue (araldite or other brands) mixed with a lot of microspheres. You obtain a kind of putty paste that you can make as fluid as you want by dosing the microsphere, and will stick perfectly to the ding. When it becomes to harden, you can push it in place even more by pushing on it with some cooking paper that you use to unmold cakes. Do not use araldite alone, it will not harden enough to sand.

A even better solution is quick epoxy resin (20mn pot life), lots of microspheres, cooking paper on it + tape into place, and keep 1 hour at 40C after hardening to cure enough to sand.

In any case, always sand all the parts that the putty/glue/resin will touch, otherwise the repair will not stick.

And put the board in the sun, then in the shade to cool off and repair when the board is cooling, so that the pressure difference will pull the repair to the board rather than push it out.

For the paint, use car paint (spray cans or touch-up pens). Get the precise color from your board maker (in a color catalog: Pantone, RAL, ...). And always cover with clear, anti-UV car varnish. Sanding lightly + a quick spay of car varnish if also a quick way to make sand scratches disappear.


Hey Colas, I don't have anywhere near your knowledge of board repair and used your advice on touch up paint before to good effect. Thanks! Just thought I'd mention that if you are using the marine epoxy two component putty you should mix it while wearing rubber gloves, thus no grease from your fingers polluting the product.

Tayloria
NSW, 14 posts
10 Feb 2014 11:42PM
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When you're kneading the putty, wear gloves, as recommended in the instructions. That should avoid contamination. I actually have used the Knead-It which sounded more suitable, but I am using it as part of a large repair which i glassed over.
The resin is theoretically the best, But as pointed out is difficult use as a putty. Iy is supposed to be OK with filler powder, but I have taken heaps to mix it to a paste.
Another comment is that Araldite is far more expensive by volume.
Also, the Knead-It seemed to not stick well on a Polyester/Urethane board I am repairing. I am going to persevere, because now I have it and it is handy.

Reddog74
QLD, 52 posts
14 Feb 2014 8:13AM
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ohhh yeah?. worked a treat??.even managed to find a good matching red paint (starboard red), just went to the local toy store and found it in the hobby section (tamiya paint)?lol
she's looking like new?..now i just need to get some more rail tape!

KennyK
QLD, 395 posts
14 Feb 2014 8:36AM
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Thanks for that mate.

momasfolly
VIC, 237 posts
14 Feb 2014 10:19AM
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Where can you get the microspheres and what are they? Interesting topic!

micksmith
VIC, 1686 posts
14 Feb 2014 12:38PM
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momasfolly said..
Where can you get the microspheres and what are they? Interesting topic!


Commonly called microballoons, they are a filler or thickener added to do just that at a reduced weight.
You can get it from any descent Marine supplies (google a place near you)
A friend and I made a few windsurfers back in the day using it. (not that good at it though)

Personally for the type of repair above, I would do exactly as shown. EASY PEASY

CJ83
VIC, 44 posts
14 Feb 2014 12:47PM
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Been trying to decide on paint type and color...does anyone know what paint they spray paddleboards with, specifically Deep Sups?

The bloke at the paint shop said acrylic or 2 pack will be the go, can do either in a pressure pack. Only drama is if the paint on the board is an enamel any acrylic I put on will strip the enamel. And I've tried contacting Deep/Dolphin and there a hard mob to get a hold of. So can't get a color code either, it's just the nose needing paint so going to go blaze orange I think

colas
5064 posts
14 Feb 2014 4:21PM
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The idea being microspheres (microballon in french) is to obtain a concrete-like structure: the resin/cement being just used to glue in place the microspheres/rocks that will provide the strength. Microspheres are air-filled glass balls, and resin + microspheres make one of the strongest (in compression) material available for a reasonable price, plus it is quite light due to the embedded air.

It does not thicken a lot the resin, I guess the balls still "roll" rather freely in the resin, to obtain a thick paste you can add also specific thickening fillers. A thin layer of resin + microspheres is often applied to the foam blank to seal it to avoid bubbles before glassing

Anyways, microspheres should be part of the quiver of any surfer/super :-)

CJ83
VIC, 44 posts
20 Feb 2014 2:11PM
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Finally got it painted up...couldn't find decent quality paint in a can that blue or any fluoro colours so gloss white it is. It was gonna be triple the price to get the blue matched in 2 pack.
Took the masking tape off when it was touch dry and trimmed the edge down with a razor blade then sanded it lightly with 1200grit wet n dry once it had dried. It was hardly going to effect my precision paddling but looks better lol don't know if I like it or not but it's done and I'm not sanding it back again...
Clint

CJ83
VIC, 44 posts
20 Feb 2014 2:13PM
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Pic would help



CJ83
VIC, 44 posts
20 Feb 2014 2:15PM
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MickMc
VIC, 452 posts
20 Feb 2014 5:43PM
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CJ83 said..

Finally got it painted up...couldn't find decent quality paint in a can that blue or any fluoro colours so gloss white it is. It was gonna be triple the price to get the blue matched in 2 pack.
Took the masking tape off when it was touch dry and trimmed the edge down with a razor blade then sanded it lightly with 1200grit wet n dry once it had dried. It was hardly going to effect my precision paddling but looks better lol don't know if I like it or not but it's done and I'm not sanding it back again...
Clint


top job .... I've got a few boards you can fix while you're on a roll



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