We have all been there...choosing a new SUP so you head to the 3 closest stores that have SUPs to test out. You test all the boards you can from Nash-JP- Starboard-Fanatic and a couple of wild card boards just to be sure. You read 3000 posts on Seabreaze possibly more looking at every comparison known to man. After an exhaustive elimination process you finally realise you need 3 SUP?s possibly 4 in order to fully realise your true potential which in your mind lies somewhere between Mark Occhilupo and Kelly Slater. Sadly due to budgetary constraints you know you will have to compromise back to one. You finally make a decision and bring home your new pride and Joy that you are proudly showing to The Trouble and Strife - (The Good Lady Wife) and she says where are you going to put it? You say in the Dining room off course after all it?s a thing of wonder and Joy and that would be its rightful home. Unfortunately The Trouble and strife does not share your innate passion for the wonder and joy of your new SUP so she says get it out of here to the garage! So you march to the garage only to find it?s full of crap and other prized sporting equipment. You quickly realise there is no room in the garage the only spare space is the ceiling so you get to work on a SUP Hoist. The results below. Cheers oldboy.
That's awesome
I've been daydreaming about a similar system but in line with the cars. So I can just hoist it of and lower it straight back onto the roo of my car
But a few issues like the door coming up and being in the way etc is wher it's stopped. Thought about removing my ceiling or raising it but that's as far as the brainstorming has got so far.
Great to see you got the job done
Buy Short SUPs : shorter (<7'5") and lighter (<8kgs).
Instead on the car roof they will fit inside your car: better mileage and longer board life due to no vibrations (fatigue of board material on the car roof)
Glad to see I'm not the only one with not enough space in the garage. Mine currently has two old SUPs hanging from the roof, two new SUPs leaning against the workbench, three short(ish) surfboards standing in the corner, one longboard hanging above the back door, two sets of scuba gear in the shelves, two pushys (one above the other), four skateboards hanging on the wall, two cupboards full of wetties (both old and newish) and assorted other paraphernalia.
Any more and I won't fit the car...
By the way... your hanging system is similar to the one I did originally. I had to change as four boards was getting too heavy to lift without using the old block and tackle system they use on cranes
Good setup but I would make one suggestion to improve on it.
It appears that your spacing between pulleys is based on the distances between your ceiling joists. If you place two struts from joist to joist at each end of your system it will allow you to bring your pulley anchors closer together, this will reduce your load angles as you approach the point of chock-a-block so that the force required at the top of your hauling is much closer to that at the bottom. In short a hell of a lot easier.
Your setup at the moment will effectively be increasing the load at the top of your haul by approximately %160 through to %190, almost double. With each set of anchor pulleys within 100mm of each other, and still with your 1900mm spacing between the two sets, the load will remain at close to %50 to %60, virtually half the load rather than double the load, on each set from the bottom to almost the top of the haul. You can add a single pulley at the haul end at any distance that will allow your haul rope to be clear the body of the board.
The other benefit of changing these angles is that there will be considerably less strain on your haul rope and anchor bolts. This will make it less likely that one or the other could fail over time, and drop your board onto your car.
When my garage door opens it pivots up to the ceiling and slots in above the tail of the board.
You want to be very careful about what you put on racks above your car. If it can fall, it will. I have found that boards are not a problem (because they're big and are either in the rack or not), but smaller loose items (like kite pumps) most definitely are a problem. Fortunately they fall on the missus's car so that's ok.
Select to expand quoteNorth said...
That's awesome
I've been daydreaming about a similar system but in line with the cars. So I can just hoist it of and lower it straight back onto the roo of my car
But a few issues like the door coming up and being in the way etc is wher it's stopped. Thought about removing my ceiling or raising it but that's as far as the brainstorming has got so far.
Great to see you got the job done
Hey North
yes as you can see from my drawing I am far from an engineer. i just got out a bit paper and went for it. No dout i should have sort advise first but it dose the job fine. Cheers oldboy
Select to expand quoteGorgo said...
When my garage door opens it pivots up to the ceiling and slots in above the tail of the board.
You want to be very careful about what you put on racks above your car. If it can fall, it will. I have found that boards are not a problem (because they're big and are either in the rack or not), but smaller loose items (like kite pumps) most definitely are a problem. Fortunately they fall on the missus's car so that's ok.
Hey Gorgo
Fortunately its not me car parked under the SUP (its the wife's car) and its usually in its big padded board bag just to be shore. So far so Good.
Cheers oldboy
Select to expand quoteCrispCritter said...
Good setup but I would make one suggestion to improve on it.
It appears that your spacing between pulleys is based on the distances between your ceiling joists. If you place two struts from joist to joist at each end of your system it will allow you to bring your pulley anchors closer together, this will reduce your load angles as you approach the point of chock-a-block so that the force required at the top of your hauling is much closer to that at the bottom. In short a hell of a lot easier.
Your setup at the moment will effectively be increasing the load at the top of your haul by approximately %160 through to %190, almost double. With each set of anchor pulleys within 100mm of each other, and still with your 1900mm spacing between the two sets, the load will remain at close to %50 to %60, virtually half the load rather than double the load, on each set from the bottom to almost the top of the haul. You can add a single pulley at the haul end at any distance that will allow your haul rope to be clear the body of the board.
The other benefit of changing these angles is that there will be considerably less strain on your haul rope and anchor bolts. This will make it less likely that one or the other could fail over time, and drop your board onto your car.
Hey CrispCritter
Wow where were you when i need you. You were right i just whacked the eye bolts in where i could find ceiling joists and went from there. Many thanks for your advice I will make some changes as per your suggestions as it looks to be sound advise. The good news is even my 9 year old son can easily lift the SUP up only being 12KG as can the Trouble and strife. Many thanks for your advice. Cheers oldboy
Select to expand quoteMahanumah said...
Glad to see I'm not the only one with not enough space in the garage. Mine currently has two old SUPs hanging from the roof, two new SUPs leaning against the workbench, three short(ish) surfboards standing in the corner, one longboard hanging above the back door, two sets of scuba gear in the shelves, two pushys (one above the other), four skateboards hanging on the wall, two cupboards full of wetties (both old and newish) and assorted other paraphernalia.
Any more and I won't fit the car...
By the way... your hanging system is similar to the one I did originally. I had to change as four boards was getting too heavy to lift without using the old block and tackle system they use on cranes
Hey Mahanumah
Your garage sounds just like mine. i need another double garage just for all the gear me and my 2 boys have and they are only young so its not looking good for the future as no doubt the boys will soon end up with there own boards soon then i will have go for the tipple stacker hoist. Thanks to CrispCritter he has got me sorted on an improvement.Cheers oldboy
Select to expand quoteJeroensurf said...
Buy a different wife who understands you?
Hey Jeroensurf
Easier said than Done!
Cheers oldboy
Select to expand quoteNorth said...
That's awesome
I've been daydreaming about a similar system but in line with the cars. So I can just hoist it of and lower it straight back onto the roo of my car
But a few issues like the door coming up and being in the way etc is wher it's stopped. Thought about removing my ceiling or raising it but that's as far as the brainstorming has got so far.
Great to see you got the job done
Hey Noth
Yes when you are under the pump from the Trouble and Strife to get the job done one didn't stop to do any research as you can see from my drawing of the master plan. When my son said to me whats the plan Dad I said what plan son we don't need a plan we will just put it together on the fly you will see.....and sort of hope for the best. I get the feeling i should have ask all the Lads online at Seabreeze first. Surprising it actually works quite well so i thought i might as well post it just in case anyone else has been in the same Delmer as me. Thanks for your thoughts. Cheers oldboy
