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Waking up the creek/speeed tail with fins

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Created by Nugdam > 9 months ago, 4 Apr 2018
Nugdam
QLD, 600 posts
4 Apr 2018 8:49PM
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Looking at getting a set of fins for my 9'1 creek. Just chasing suggestions on fins that might waken up the tail a little bit more. Surfiing 2-4 foot open waves with the odd peaky beach break


I have been suggested the fcs arc which are well priced and seem to sound good on paper. But just chasing some other suggestions and what to look for in a fin.


colas
5064 posts
4 Apr 2018 8:04PM
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Some things to try:
- add more grip in the front fins to have more squirt in turns but pushing against them, but reduce the rear fin(s) to add some release. Typically a twin-fin + trailer setup.
- C-Drive fins are a great way to add acceleration in turns. if they feel too stiff on a 9'1", just replace the center one with a standard fin
- have a more efficient profile: I find fins with the max thickness close to the leading edge are harder to stall, but somewhat slower and a bit dull. I love the ones with the max thickness at 1/3 of the length, such as the Al Merrick, Matt Biolos, ...
- some people prefer fins with a lot of surface in the head to have leverage in turns, but I prefer thin tips that have less drag at speed. Experiment to see what you like best.
- Try a twin-fin setup. On a 9'1" you may not need a trailer, and the speed gain should be quite noticeable...

Tardy
5024 posts
4 Apr 2018 8:13PM
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I Tried the arcs ,i didn't like them .it felt like its was more draw out turns that the arcs preformed like .. .you need more straight up and down and stiff glass fins like these..thats what livened my flow up ,also creatures fins .are hard glass fins .

Nugdam
QLD, 600 posts
5 Apr 2018 4:30PM
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colas said..
Some things to try:
- add more grip in the front fins to have more squirt in turns but pushing against them, but reduce the rear fin(s) to add some release. Typically a twin-fin + trailer setup.
- C-Drive fins are a great way to add acceleration in turns. if they feel too stiff on a 9'1", just replace the center one with a standard fin
- have a more efficient profile: I find fins with the max thickness close to the leading edge are harder to stall, but somewhat slower and a bit dull. I love the ones with the max thickness at 1/3 of the length, such as the Al Merrick, Matt Biolos, ...
- some people prefer fins with a lot of surface in the head to have leverage in turns, but I prefer thin tips that have less drag at speed. Experiment to see what you like best.
- Try a twin-fin setup. On a 9'1" you may not need a trailer, and the speed gain should be quite noticeable...


I had am2s on my list of fins to look into. The c drives seem rare as hens teeth?

I'll have try it as a twin fin never considered that at all.

So it sounds like I need about 50 fins and experiment ??

Nugdam
QLD, 600 posts
5 Apr 2018 4:31PM
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I Tried the arcs ,i didn't like them .it felt like its was more draw out turns that the arcs preformed like .. .you need more straight up and down and stiff glass fins like these..thats what livened my flow up ,also creatures fins .are hard glass fins .


I tried to search that fin but everywhere is out of stock? Is there a newer version?

Tardy
5024 posts
5 Apr 2018 3:12PM
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hey ,FCS FIN australia have these in stock .go for it .


colas
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5 Apr 2018 8:00PM
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Nugdam said..
So it sounds like I need about 50 fins and experiment ??


You do not "need" anything. Surfing is just fun, do as you please.

But experimenting with fins is really fun and open up a lot of different feelings, especially with the FCS1 system where a lot of not-too-expensive fins can be found.

With the creek having only 3 boxes, with a thruster set and a Twin + trailer, you can already experiment a lot with 6 fins.

Consider buying fins as progressively building a quiver that you will reuse across boards for years.

On the "standard" shaped fins, I love also the FCS nexus. They have a very refined foil, giving a lot of fluidity in the ride. I use them on longer boards (8'+) where I do not need powerful fins.

Brenno
QLD, 891 posts
5 Apr 2018 10:50PM
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Nugdam said..
Looking at getting a set of fins for my 9'1 creek. Just chasing suggestions on fins that might waken up the tail a little bit more. Surfiing 2-4 foot open waves with the odd peaky beach break


I have been suggested the fcs arc which are well priced and seem to sound good on paper. But just chasing some other suggestions and what to look for in a fin.







My tail is awake.
Very, very awake.....

SunnyBouy
473 posts
5 Apr 2018 11:20PM
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I don't own a Creek, but I do own an 8'10 Speeed and 8'7 Flow and I use those FCS PCC-7's in both.
Obviously the Speeed is the most similar and I too was looking to lighten up the tail, those channels act like a teeny fin as it is.. so I swapped out the stock 105's for the PCC-7's.. and I like them.. They have loosened up the tail on the Speeed and really loosened up the tail on the Flow.

Worth a try IMO..

Let us know if you do get them, and post experiences.. Creeks are becoming a favourite board for many and we could do with some tuning pointers...

Nugdam
QLD, 600 posts
6 Apr 2018 5:33AM
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Brenno said..

Nugdam said..
Looking at getting a set of fins for my 9'1 creek. Just chasing suggestions on fins that might waken up the tail a little bit more. Surfiing 2-4 foot open waves with the odd peaky beach break


I have been suggested the fcs arc which are well priced and seem to sound good on paper. But just chasing some other suggestions and what to look for in a fin.








My tail is awake.
Very, very awake.....


What size C drives are they? They look like very interesting fins. I see them get thrown up alot... but hard to get hold of.

Brenno
QLD, 891 posts
9 Apr 2018 3:58PM
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XL for a fat boy

Brenno
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9 Apr 2018 4:13PM
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XL for a fat boy



Gonna try these Large AM2's out tomorrow.
I'm really liking the smaller centre option, similar to the MFC V2's I'm running on my 8'10" Flow.

Nugdam
QLD, 600 posts
9 Apr 2018 5:11PM
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Brenno said..

Brenno said..
XL for a fat boy




Gonna try these Large AM2's out tomorrow.
I'm really liking the smaller centre option, similar to the MFC V2's I'm running on my 8'10" Flow.



They look nice!, I ordered a set of pcc7s for my creek. Can also get my hands on a set of large C drives. So might grab them as well!

Emeboy
NSW, 399 posts
9 Apr 2018 7:29PM
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Brenno said..

Brenno said..
XL for a fat boy




Gonna try these Large AM2's out tomorrow.
I'm really liking the smaller centre option, similar to the MFC V2's I'm running on my 8'10" Flow.



Let us know how the AM2's go Brenno.... They look like a good match...

Lucyloo
VIC, 139 posts
9 Apr 2018 9:20PM
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C drives but good luck finding em

Brenno
QLD, 891 posts
11 Apr 2018 11:26AM
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Emeboy said..

Brenno said..


Brenno said..
XL for a fat boy





Gonna try these Large AM2's out tomorrow.
I'm really liking the smaller centre option, similar to the MFC V2's I'm running on my 8'10" Flow.




Let us know how the AM2's go Brenno.... They look like a good match...


Really nice.
Outgoing tide, 3 to 4 ft wally beach break, a great combination of turn and hold. Really smooth.
Not quite as much drive off the bottom, or spray off the top as the C Drives, but will be my go to combo for the bigger days.
The more I surf this board, the more I love it.....

Nugdam
QLD, 600 posts
11 Apr 2018 3:58PM
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Got the pcc7s today. Similar rake in the fin just alot smaller and thinner. Should be interesting!

Also have a set of c drives coming

Tardy
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11 Apr 2018 3:22PM
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Also got my PCC7 today ..not that much smaller to the sunova 94.fin s mainly the following end part. But thePCC 's do have more thickness in the front of the cutting edge ,slimming to a thin rear ...which will make them pivot well ..the PC 7 's are thinner .but are slightly bent in at the top of the fin .they climb waves like a chimp up a tree .
the creatures are very stiff and thin ,making them a very fast fin .great for racing sections .as a quad set .great drive.
stoked with my collection now ..
Yeow.
only bitch is ,they need a bit of colour .

Smash1
NSW, 825 posts
11 Apr 2018 5:56PM
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C-Drives rock - but we need to get some crowd funding up and running

Tardy
5024 posts
11 Apr 2018 4:05PM
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love to try some ...but where are they ?????????????

i guess you need to place your order ,then wait your turn .

Smash1
NSW, 825 posts
11 Apr 2018 6:45PM
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The latest fins launched - www.quobbafins.com

Bighugg
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11 Apr 2018 6:13PM
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Tardy said..


Also got my PCC7 today ..not that much smaller to the sunova 94.fin s mainly the following end part. But thePCC 's do have more thickness in the front of the cutting edge ,slimming to a thin rear ...which will make them pivot well ..the PC 7 's are thinner .but are slightly bent in at the top of the fin .they climb waves like a chimp up a tree .
the creatures are very stiff and thin ,making them a very fast fin .great for racing sections .as a quad set .great drive.
stoked with my collection now ..
Yeow.
only bitch is ,they need a bit of colour .


Colour colour colour .... most of fin collection's at the moment have a drab corporate bland ,,,,,,,,,,, happening. Water people are fun colourful spirit's n fins are part of that expression ??

Nugdam
QLD, 600 posts
11 Apr 2018 9:26PM
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Tardy said..
love to try some ...but where are they ?????????????

i guess you need to place your order ,then wait your turn .



I sent a email to the bloke and he replied pretty much straight away. A few emails later and mine were posted today. Not sure if I got lucky though?

troy.cdrvfins@gmail.com

Nugdam
QLD, 600 posts
4 May 2018 4:30PM
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If anyone is interest in the C drives I am thinking of putting them on gumtree.

I love the pcc7s too much they are perfect for me.... plus I bought another board and just looking to justify the purchase.

Brenno
QLD, 891 posts
5 May 2018 5:33AM
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Nugdam said..
If anyone is interest in the C drives I am thinking of putting them on gumtree.

I love the pcc7s too much they are perfect for me.... plus I bought another board and just looking to justify the purchase.


I couldn't part with mine.
Put them back on my Creek for a smaller day last week, and they make it feel like a whole new board. So lively, especially when I'm in the zone, and really pushing it.
AM2's for bigger juice, C Drives for "those" days.
My poor Flow is moping on the rack....

LastSupper
VIC, 364 posts
5 May 2018 10:02PM
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Nugdam said..
If anyone is interest in the C drives I am thinking of putting them on gumtree.

I love the pcc7s too much they are perfect for me.... plus I bought another board and just looking to justify the purchase.


Can you post em to vicco



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