I suggest we dump in this thread the info on what exactly the listed weights on the brands web sites mean:
- is it for only the naked board, or board + pad, or board + pad + fins, straps, ... ?
Note: a pad for a 8' to 9' board is around 450g (ultralight pads) to 600g (normal pads)
- what are the tolerances?
I start with Gong:
- weights are for the naked boards, without pad nor fins nor straps
- tolerance is +/- 5%
Also Starboard (Trevor Tunnington) answered my query:
- "The weights in the Spec tables on the website include the finished board + pads, The fins are not calculated with the board weight"
- "Factory tolerance for Blue Carbon construction is +/- 5 percent depending on the range (Limited construction is often +/-6% and ASAP is sometimes +/-10%) tolerances will be listed underneath the spec chart."
I suggest we all contact our favorite brands or shapers to get the info and list it here.
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I suggest we dump in this thread the info on what exactly the listed weights on the brands web sites mean:
- is it for only the naked board, or board + pad, or board + pad + fins, straps, ... ?
Note: a pad for a 8' to 9' board is around 450g (ultralight pads) to 600g (normal pads)
- what are the tolerances?
I start with Gong:
- weights are for the naked boards, without pad nor fins nor straps
- tolerance is +/- 5%
Also Starboard (Trevor Tunnington) answered my query:
- "The weights in the Spec tables on the website include the finished board + pads, The fins are not calculated with the board weight"
- "Factory tolerance for Blue Carbon construction is +/- 5 percent depending on the range (Limited construction is often +/-6% and ASAP is sometimes +/-10%) tolerances will be listed underneath the spec chart."
I suggest we all contact our favorite brands or shapers to get the info and list it here.
Thanks Colas,on it as always ,it would also help if the boards were weighed before leaving the factory and noted on the box/ packing,as the sales people are reluctant to pull a board out to weight it,even if a sale depends on it...I have had a bad experience with a starboard carbon longboard being excessively over there so called limit.,and also for later reference re..water ingress,dings ect.. I have had contact with fellow suppers internationally and some of there boards are on the -side of the limits, this could just be luck or is OZ,the dumping ground for the heavy boards ? This is not a Starboad bash ,just an experience,and asking a question.
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Thanks Colas,on it as always ,it would also help if the boards were weighed before leaving the factory and noted on the box
Gong actually has always done this, since the weights of the naked boards are specified by contract with the factory, which thus must state them, Gong being entitled to refuse the boards or get a discount (this can happen if the demand so high on some models that some customers would be OK to get a discount for an overweight board). This allows Gong to commit formally to the stated weights.
It is also the reason why Gong lists the weights of the naked boards, as historically, the pads were glued by Gong in France (or even by the customer) and not at the factories.
Dunno for the other brands.
I just saw today on Facebook a customer that posted a photo of the box he received his board in:
You can see the NW (net weight) of 6.6kg and the GW (gross weight of the whole box) 11.8 kg
Thanks Colas,I think Gong are leading the way in many aspects of sup ,I know it has been covered before,re logistics..ect but would love Gong in oz ,I have been lucky enough to have had one of the record light weight karman8.4 I think .still one of the best boards to date,the weight was addictive,I haven't had anything like it since????
It would be good for sure to have weights advertised on brand sites, I have noticed some don't provide this info. I have been riding a custom smik spitfire 7'10" x 27" 95L @ 5.7kg with pad. This board fits my surfing so well I can't see me changing brands anytime soon. Scotty is incredibly accommodating and knows what he's talking about, I'll send him an email and see why he doesn't state weights on production boards and if he will in the future.
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I have been lucky enough to have had one of the record light weight karman8.4 I think .still one of the best boards to date,the weight was addictive,I haven't had anything like it since????
To be honest, there is no free lunch: these ultralight boards were less impact resistant, I do not think it is the kind of compromise the majority of people buying a production SUP want. Gong itself made them heavier after 6 months.
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I have been lucky enough to have had one of the record light weight karman8.4 I think .still one of the best boards to date,the weight was addictive,I haven't had anything like it since????
To be honest, there is no free lunch: these ultralight boards were less impact resistant, I do not think it is the kind of compromise the majority of people buying a production SUP want. Gong itself made them heavier after 6 months.
Absolutely Colas,it was the kindest,I have been to a sup
Scott got back to me ( incredibly quick) he said it is
a detail he definitely needs to address soon.
