Sorry for the hijack but I saw "Dumb Question" and thought to myself "I have lots of them"
So, why do the longboarders and co call SUPers "666"?
Select to expand quotetezza08 said...
Sorry for the hijack but I saw "Dumb Question" and thought to myself "I have lots of them"
So, why do the longboarders and co call SUPers "666"?
The devil?
Select to expand quotetezza08 said..
Sorry for the hijack but I saw "Dumb Question" and thought to myself "I have lots of them"
So, why do the longboarders and co call SUPers "666"?
is indeed a bit of a post hijack for some newbie with only 15 posts......almost rude and uncouth?
Was sitting at bottom of makorori hill track contemplating carrying my PSH 12'6 up the hill when this guy stopped to chatwww.teaomaori.news/native-affairs-surfs
Because they can't add? Equals 18 which is the average number of waves we catch with each shed session.
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Sorry for the hijack but I saw "Dumb Question" and thought to myself "I have lots of them"
Well, you also have an arseh*le, but people do not need to see it either :-)
Select to expand quotecolas said..tezza08 said..
Sorry for the hijack but I saw "Dumb Question" and thought to myself "I have lots of them"
Well, you also have an arseh*le, but people do not need to see it either :-)
Wow! seams I've upset a few! Ill just start a new thread next time 
Cheers
Select to expand quotetezza08 said..colas said..tezza08 said..
Sorry for the hijack but I saw "Dumb Question" and thought to myself "I have lots of them"
Well, you also have an arseh*le, but people do not need to see it either :-)
Wow! seams I've upset a few! Ill just start a new thread next time
Cheers
Don't worry about the foreigners mate, and actually it's a misconception that 666 is the devils number, it's actually man's, so the long boarders are like others here ignorant.
Select to expand quotemicksmith said..tezza08 said..colas said..tezza08 said..
Sorry for the hijack but I saw "Dumb Question" and thought to myself "I have lots of them"
Well, you also have an arseh*le, but people do not need to see it either :-)
Wow! seams I've upset a few! Ill just start a new thread next time
Cheers
Don't worry about the foreigners mate, and actually it's a misconception that 666 is the devils number, it's actually man's, so the long boarders are like others here ignorant.
lol nevermind I have lots of friends that ride 666's...I even have one in my quiver 
Surfers have generally always called waves smaller than they really are. I remember reading an acticle in a surfing magazine once where a local big wave guy from Hawaii said Waimea Bay closes out at 15 foot!!! by my standard its closer to 25-30 feet!!!!!!
I have tended to call waves closer to the shoulder height as apposed to the height at take-off. Me personally, i would call the swell in the wave posted by Hilly above as 6 to 8 feet. ..........yes i know its probably technically larger than that but i am a surfer and thats the measure we use!!!! at least where i come from!!!!
CTS67, 3 ft is correct.
STC, you've got it pegged.
Here's an embarrassing over estimate. More like a 4 footer.
Interesting... I know why you are calling it 4', but if I took off on that wave, at the peak, and I told a non-surfer that it was 4' they would imagine something pathetic that came up to my chest. I wouldn't call it double-overhead, even if the face was 10' (the graphic artist must have been pretty short). I chose that photo to make the point - it was pretty tame (fun though) but technically was at head-height. I guess the Insane is for waves like hilly's.
Baddog...agree completely. thats a four footer. Unless your an Hawaiian big wave charger, they would call that two foot !!!lol
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CTS67, 3 ft is correct.
STC, you've got it pegged.
Here's an embarrassing over estimate. More like a 4 footer.
most of us would say that is a 15 foot wave face......regardless of who is sitting out the back calling out the size and too frightened to take off themselves 
looks like another couple of feet underneath that base line to me
My initiation lore had wave height measured at the back. It's absurd, of course, because different waves of the same face height can have very different backs on them - spilling beachies will sit right up and have a very low ratio of back height:face height, while reef slabs tend to have very little back compared to their bottomless pits.
I have found a rough relationship between the factors of surfer's location of upbringing, surfing experience and body size over the years and their call of wave size, all of which amounts to overall findings of:
- wave size estimates increase as you go to places where the wave climate is smaller i.e. if you;re used to it being 2-3ft a 5 footer can seem like 6-8ft
- if you've been surfing a long time people tend to call it smaller
- if you're a bigger bloke the waves can feel/look that bit smaller and vice-versa
- comfort zones dictate your wave range, with most people being OK at calling waves to 4ft but getting less reliable outside their comfort zone, especially when you're into the 10ft+ territory where wave estimates become combinations of size and apprehension more to do with water volume than wave height.
- most experienced surfers use ranges to describe waves above 4ft thanks to the usual range of swell on that day (e.g. 8-10ft), and will also use hard measurements bound by a dedicated set of numbers i.e. 8ft, 10ft, 12ft, 15ft, 18ft etc and not 9, 11, 13 etc.
- the estimate of someone in the water surfing the wave is normally more reliable than the person on the beach, especially when it gets over 6ft, because it factors in power and water volume.
- face estimation is hard too because, like the photo above, people often draw the horizontal away from the actual wave trough.
And of course there's the macho factor, which is more designed to sort out whether someone has any idea about surfing bigger waves. Really, it comes down to whether you think it's small, medium, solid, big, really big or just plain frightening.
I'm finding on a sup that because i'm so high out of the water it seems smaller to me, and if I lie down I'll get surprised by how big it is.
At the end of the day, the opinion of non-surfers doesn't matter, either - unless you have something to prove.....
Wankas!
Wave height is measured from the front.
Swell is measured from the back.
Anyone who calls a 10' face 4 foot is trying to sound tough and experienced more than they are, in my book.
www.surfresearch.com.au/awaveheight.html
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I guess technically that wave is head-high, but it is not a big wave (it was fun, but not "big"). But how big does the wave need to be before you need a big wave gun board like the Insane? Even if you look at my little icon photo, that wave was well up above my head (the GoPro makes it look smaller) but I was fine on the Speeed.
Id say use a gun whenever you want. If it's a board that you have fun riding, then ride it no matter what size the surf is. That is of course if the board works in the conditions of the day. I have a 9'10" custom gun that works nicely in any size from 3 foot and up.
Having surfed short boards for close to 35 years around Australia, Indonesia, Hawaii (in winter) i am fairly comfortable in my with my surfing experience and knowledge around the waves.
Anyone who calls Baddogs post a 10 footer is on drugs. That thing would taper off to shoulder height at best in no time. Still, if people are happy to kid themselves around people less knowledgeable and experience on the subject, they can go their hardest.
Yesterday was surfing at makorori point in extremely offshore windy conditions (sometimes had to kneel for takeoffs and do the longboard jump up).....but basically just feel old and flabby :)
I was calling it 2 to 4 foot
A really big set came through. Closed out the point......Closed out centres
The online surf 2 surf wave report said it was 2 foot that morning
This thread is getting crazy.
Does it matter where you are on the wave?
Of course it does, this is only 1 foot overhead, everybody knows that.
But what if you are on a ski?
It doesn't count if you're not on a board.
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This thread is getting crazy.
Does it matter where you are on the wave?
Of course it does, this is only 1 foot overhead, everybody knows that.
But what if you are on a ski?
It doesn't count if you're not on a board.
well........ clearly that is head high...but it could simply be the camera angle
Eddie Rare.... great inspiration!
Good to see him ripping... not sliding into middle age!
Plenty of people around my age chasing this dream.... just not many that are older.
Good to have a Eddie leading the pack forward 
Tang you are correct in hawaii waves were classed from the back and over here in Oz waves tend to be classed from the front. In Hawaii the wave actually drops below sea level when it enters the reef and therefore adds height as it drops below sea level. This can be observed at any bombara, espically places like the box in WA where the swell can be half the size of the wave. And at the impact zone over 10 feet but 10m along the shoulder just be 5ft and not breaking.
Jaws also works like this and Teahpoo in Tahiti is an extreme example of this phenomenon.
i remember surfing with a newcastle shaper and surf legend in the mid north coast and it was like over 10 foot at the drop and I asked him how big he thought it was. He stated that it was 10 foot at the drop but really only a 5-7ft wave on the majority of the wall that wrapped round the point. He was in training for Hawaii and remarked to me that it would not be considered 5ft in hawaii.
Wave height is relative to so many factors. Such as tube height. Where the barrel forms on the wave due to the bottom of the sea floor. Wind. One of my favourites is refraction of the point. When waves join together you can get the most insane drops deepest pits and crazy speed.
When deciding wave height you should always pass the batton on. Preferably to a grom and or a novice or non surfer/sup rider.
And also increase the size by 3 foot per decade of age. I remember surfing with Kelly Slater at little avalon back in 2000 it was 6 foot and pumping. Which translates to i was really surfing near Kelly Slater it was 2-3 foot fun waves and he was probably testing out a new board.
Tang you are correct in hawaii waves were classed from the back and over here in Oz waves tend to be classed from the front. In Hawaii the wave actually drops below sea level when it enters the reef and therefore adds height as it drops below sea level. This can be observed at any bombara, espically places like the box in WA where the swell can be half the size of the wave. And at the impact zone over 10 feet but 10m along the shoulder just be 5ft and not breaking. Jaws also works like this and Teahpoo in Tahiti is an extreme example of this phenomenon.
So those guys that get towed in behind jet skis riding those big waves at Teahpoo are riding 5-6ft waves
What Eva!
Does make sense with that explaintion above from pumpjocky2
All open to interpretation from different people
Of course when you tell your mates that weren't there, there always is a bit of fat added to the size of the wave
