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Jp wide body, Niash Hokua or Starboard widepoint?

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Created by steve35 > 9 months ago, 5 Aug 2014
steve35
26 posts
5 Aug 2014 5:43PM
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Hi all I would appreciate your advice
I'm 6 ft and 108kg, been surfing for over 20 years on mainly fish surfboards (sub 7ft) and supping for 3-4 years(intermediate to advanced). I have a Al merrick 9'1 Caddie which is 30 inch's wide and 136 l of float. I find this board great if the conditions are clean but a bit tippy if there is a chop on the wave.

I'm looking for a quad board with a bit more stability and to come down in size.
My normal wave is a beach break with medium power.
Im interested in the

Naish Hokua x32 (8'8)

JP Surf Wide Body (8'8)

Starboard Widepoint (8'10) I have been told that these are very stiff boards?

All boards in Carbon or the pro finish models.

I have read some of the articles on these boards but all the riders seem to be between 85kg and 100kg.


Any advice would be greatly appreciated from those with experience on these boards

Steve




SUPSMURF
NSW, 164 posts
5 Aug 2014 8:37PM
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Welcome to The Breeze Steve35. Just to totally confuse you why don't you add the Starboard Pocket Rocket. Still 30" wide with 130 litres of volume. Very stable, surfs great and would be a good all round choice. Not many for sale and for good reason, people tend to hang on to them.

Goodluck!

Snapppa
QLD, 24 posts
5 Aug 2014 8:49PM
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Hi Steve, I have had all 3 boards you are looking at, I am 6' and just over 100 kg's , came down from. 9'5" WP, I went down to the 8'8" JP 2013 but didn't really warm to this board , can't really put my finger on what it was but , mainly surf beach breaks on the gold coast I traded that board on 8'10" WP and really like that board but when the x 32 came I really like the look of the board so grabbed the 8'8" and for me it leaves them all behind to surf, Found both the others to be a little skatty for me , where's the Naish just drives out of turns and feels way more nimble, my only criticism of the naish is it's a bit heavier, but not a lot and probably doesn't paddle onto a wave as easy as the others, but of these 3 the x 32 hands down for me

hilly
WA, 7323 posts
5 Aug 2014 7:02PM
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I am 110kg 6 2

The problem with added width is you loose surfability. Makes it harder to get from rail to rail. IMHO 30 inches is about the limit.

I suggest you look at the vanguard style shapes as a good compromise being stable but still sub 30 inches.

All my favorite surfing boards have been 29 inch wide or there about.

Thin rails help like on the x32 and JL boards (new ones coming soon) does help them turn.

Happy hunting demo as many as you can.

gregc
VIC, 1298 posts
5 Aug 2014 9:14PM
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Im on the Starby WP at 8'10 with the carbon finish I love the board and if you are pushing 100kg like I am the 32 width is not an issue. My next move will be to an 8'5 pocket rocket in the carbon finish. I fluctuate between 92kg and 102kg just depending how lazy I am being and how many donuts I am going to eat.

steve35
26 posts
5 Aug 2014 7:14PM
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Snapppa said..
Hi Steve, I have had all 3 boards you are looking at, I am 6' and just over 100 kg's , came down from. 9'5" WP, I went down to the 8'8" JP 2013 but didn't really warm to this board , can't really put my finger on what it was but , mainly surf beach breaks on the gold coast I traded that board on 8'10" WP and really like that board but when the x 32 came I really like the look of the board so grabbed the 8'8" and for me it leaves them all behind to surf, Found both the others to be a little skatty for me , where's the Naish just drives out of turns and feels way more nimble, my only criticism of the naish is it's a bit heavier, but not a lot and probably doesn't paddle onto a wave as easy as the others, but of these 3 the x 32 hands down for me

Thanks both , how is the x32 on speed on slow waves? Does it need a steep face to get it going due to the increased rocker? most of the waves near me a average beach breaks.

divaldo
SA, 2878 posts
5 Aug 2014 8:59PM
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I have the 8'10 starby, carbon finish, this is such a great board, will probably hold into it for a while (although just picked up and 8'2 wide point as well)

The 8'10 is great in conditions up to 4 foot, then it gets a bit boaty. I am running a thruster set up, FCS PC7's they make a massive difference, slidey turns and everything ;)

I weigh 102kg.

I also have an 8.6 pro starboard from a few years back, I can only ride this board on super calm days, but as it's narrower it's snappier in the turns

Love me starbies

gregc
VIC, 1298 posts
5 Aug 2014 10:33PM
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I changed my Starby to the quad set up it changes the whole board

DavidJohn
VIC, 17461 posts
5 Aug 2014 11:32PM
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steve35 said...

Thanks both , how is the x32 on speed on slow waves? Does it need a steep face to get it going due to the increased rocker? most of the waves near me a average beach breaks.



My 9'1" x32 is a very similar board and it goes well on small mushy waves.. but the board really comes alive in bigger waves..

I'm now running it as a quad and it's noticeably different.. Seems even looser.

steve35
26 posts
6 Aug 2014 2:30AM
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DavidJohn said..

steve35 said...

Thanks both , how is the x32 on speed on slow waves? Does it need a steep face to get it going due to the increased rocker? most of the waves near me a average beach breaks.




My 9'1" x32 is a very similar board and it goes well on small mushy waves.. but the board really comes alive in bigger waves..

I'm now running it as a quad and it's noticeably different.. Seems even looser.


Thanks everyone for your input, the naish looks to have a lot of glide, Im swaying to that board as it has 140 l float. Love the cruisey video

Piros
QLD, 6996 posts
6 Aug 2014 7:16PM
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That's a really good choice of 3 boards , you really can't go wrong with any of the them all top end well made and designed boards. My input on the 3 is the JP & the Starby will be the most stable due to their shape , more litres doesn't always mean more stability. The widest outline will be more stable than a pulled in nose and tail with a thicker board. But you pay the price in performance. Ignore that comment about the Starby's being stiff , probably just a dud fin set up they surf well .The Naish is the latest design and here's a video I shot of Chuck Patterson at Surf Fx talking about the LE's , pretty nice. I can't split them best to try and demo all 3. I have only tested the JP out of the 3 and it's a very forgiving and easy board to surf. The JL 32 is also worth a look as well. Good luck with the demo's and let us know which one you buy.

steve35
26 posts
11 Aug 2014 5:23AM
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Piros said..
That's a really good choice of 3 boards , you really can't go wrong with any of the them all top end well made and designed boards. My input on the 3 is the JP & the Starby will be the most stable due to their shape , more litres doesn't always mean more stability. The widest outline will be more stable than a pulled in nose and tail with a thicker board. But you pay the price in performance. Ignore that comment about the Starby's being stiff , probably just a dud fin set up they surf well .The Naish is the latest design and here's a video I shot of Chuck Patterson at Surf Fx talking about the LE's , pretty nice. I can't split them best to try and demo all 3. I have only tested the JP out of the 3 and it's a very forgiving and easy board to surf. The JL 32 is also worth a look as well. Good luck with the demo's and let us know which one you buy.


Thank you Piros , I'm testing the Niash and JP , I will let you know which one I buy. Great help , thanks everyone

steve35
26 posts
22 Aug 2014 11:02PM
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steve35 said..


Piros said..
That's a really good choice of 3 boards , you really can't go wrong with any of the them all top end well made and designed boards. My input on the 3 is the JP & the Starby will be the most stable due to their shape , more litres doesn't always mean more stability. The widest outline will be more stable than a pulled in nose and tail with a thicker board. But you pay the price in performance. Ignore that comment about the Starby's being stiff , probably just a dud fin set up they surf well .The Naish is the latest design and here's a video I shot of Chuck Patterson at Surf Fx talking about the LE's , pretty nice. I can't split them best to try and demo all 3. I have only tested the JP out of the 3 and it's a very forgiving and easy board to surf. The JL 32 is also worth a look as well. Good luck with the demo's and let us know which one you buy.



Thank you Piros , I'm testing the Niash and JP , I will let you know which one I buy. Great help , thanks everyone


Went for the Naish, cant believe how stable the board is. Been out in waist high messy and clean surf and the board flies!!!!! So easy to throw the board about. The only thing I need to get used to is the row effect, very different to my Al Merrick. Surf looking head high and clean in 3 days so I cant wait to try it out in slightly bigger conditions, very happy with my purchase ;-)

DavidJohn
VIC, 17461 posts
23 Aug 2014 1:07AM
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Congrats.. The new board looks awesome..

flowmaster
294 posts
23 Aug 2014 12:45AM
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I have the 8.8 myself and for a board wich is 32 inches, it surfs fantastic, more than pleased !

AA
NSW, 2159 posts
26 Aug 2014 3:29PM
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hilly said..
I am 110kg 6 2

The problem with added width is you loose surfability. Makes it harder to get from rail to rail. IMHO 30 inches is about the limit.

I suggest you look at the vanguard style shapes as a good compromise being stable but still sub 30 inches.

All my favorite surfing boards have been 29 inch wide or there about.

Thin rails help like on the x32 and JL boards (new ones coming soon) does help them turn.

Happy hunting demo as many as you can.



I was with you Hilly until 6 months ago when I persevered with the Naish 8'3 X32. I didn't like it at first as it was slow onto a wave, but as I adapted my paddling technique I was back to my old wave count. The ripperbilty of this board on a wave is outstanding for a 32" wide board.

hilly
WA, 7323 posts
26 Aug 2014 3:33PM
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AA said..

hilly said..
I am 110kg 6 2

The problem with added width is you loose surfability. Makes it harder to get from rail to rail. IMHO 30 inches is about the limit.

I suggest you look at the vanguard style shapes as a good compromise being stable but still sub 30 inches.

All my favorite surfing boards have been 29 inch wide or there about.

Thin rails help like on the x32 and JL boards (new ones coming soon) does help them turn.

Happy hunting demo as many as you can.




I was with you Hilly until 6 months ago when I persevered with the Naish 8'3 X32. I didn't like it at first as it was slow onto a wave, but as I adapted my paddling technique I was back to my old wave count. The ripperbilty of this board on a wave is outstanding for a 32" wide board.


I will soon find out with a wider board :) 8 9 X 31




steve35
26 posts
28 Aug 2014 1:36AM
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Well I took the 8'8 x32 out in head - over head clean conditions (beach break), kept it as a quad and I was blown away at this boards acceleration , responsiveness and ability to take a late take off!! I can not speak highly enough of the board. I didn't feel any problem with the 32inch width as it turned on a dime, it felt more like my 6'6 fish!!!!!! Even had a few surfers complimenting me on a couple of waves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Over the moon with it. If there are any heavy surfers looking for a short board feel then this is the board!



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