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SUPs on a hot beach

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Created by cantSUPenough > 9 months ago, 20 Dec 2016
cantSUPenough
VIC, 2131 posts
20 Dec 2016 2:23PM
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What do you do with your SUP (between sessions) if you are on a hot sunny beach? Personally I don't like using the bag (makes them heavier and more awkward to carry to the beach and I am suss they can cook the boards) but that seems the only option. (I did make a SUP tent once - long tube of tent/nylon material held open at each end, but it had issues.)

Anyone ever cooked a Sunova?

DiscoStupid
NSW, 90 posts
20 Dec 2016 3:58PM
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Dig a trench in the sand, place board in trench with a rail angled towards the sun.

This minimises the surface area of board exposed to direct sunlight.

Cover with a wet towel as well.... for good measure

??? would love to hear better solutions

exiled
363 posts
20 Dec 2016 2:55PM
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Cover it in wet sand?

DavidJohn
VIC, 17460 posts
20 Dec 2016 5:57PM
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Move to Victoria.. If it's hot you just need to wait 10 minutes and it'll be cold again..

pumpjockey02
309 posts
20 Dec 2016 6:19PM
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Sand is an excellent insulator and the sand is only hot on the top, you are better off shovelling the sand on top of the board and letting it cover the board with the slick side toward the earth. As sand contains tiny particles of silicon it only gets hot when directly exposed to the sun. To check this on a blistering hot day lie down and cover your legs and torso in the sand, and cover the top of your body with an umbrella or other protection. You will soon find out that the sand forms a natural insulation and your body maintains a cool temperature. The indians found this out when burying people in the desert and leaving their heads out for the vultures to eat. A person can last for days like this in the hot sun slowly dying of sun exposure to the head. NASTY!!
Pump.

rockmagnet
QLD, 1458 posts
21 Dec 2016 7:53AM
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Any sup uv covers in Australia?

cantSUPenough
VIC, 2131 posts
21 Dec 2016 2:42PM
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The UV covers look pretty good! Do they keep the temperature down? Have you put your hand inside to feel the board temperature? I tried "something" like that once, but where the material made contact with the board it still seemed to get hot. But my UV rating was not as high.

cantSUPenough
VIC, 2131 posts
21 Dec 2016 2:47PM
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pumpjockey02 said..
Sand is an excellent insulator and the sand is only hot on the top, you are better off shovelling the sand on top of the board and letting it cover the board with the slick side toward the earth. As sand contains tiny particles of silicon it only gets hot when directly exposed to the sun. To check this on a blistering hot day lie down and cover your legs and torso in the sand, and cover the top of your body with an umbrella or other protection. You will soon find out that the sand forms a natural insulation and your body maintains a cool temperature. The indians found this out when burying people in the desert and leaving their heads out for the vultures to eat. A person can last for days like this in the hot sun slowly dying of sun exposure to the head. NASTY!!
Pump.


How deep do you need to go? I would imagine that you would need at least 4 cm of sand if it is fine sand.

DavidJohn
VIC, 17460 posts
21 Dec 2016 2:59PM
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cantSUPenough said...
pumpjockey02 said..
Sand is an excellent insulator and the sand is only hot on the top, you are better off shovelling the sand on top of the board and letting it cover the board with the slick side toward the earth. As sand contains tiny particles of silicon it only gets hot when directly exposed to the sun. To check this on a blistering hot day lie down and cover your legs and torso in the sand, and cover the top of your body with an umbrella or other protection. You will soon find out that the sand forms a natural insulation and your body maintains a cool temperature. The indians found this out when burying people in the desert and leaving their heads out for the vultures to eat. A person can last for days like this in the hot sun slowly dying of sun exposure to the head. NASTY!!
Pump.


How deep do you need to go? I would imagine that you would need at least 4 cm of sand if it is fine sand.


I'd say about 6' deep..

I'd recomend one of those bottomless board covers that slip on like an ironing board cover..

Tardy
5026 posts
21 Dec 2016 3:22PM
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Get vertical....then the sun only burns the top ..

Ever seen the old surf board photos of dudes standing their boards up in the sand ...
Limited sun rays and ya wax doesn't melt off .

It's only a suggestion .

Find a coconut tree .just make sure they've cut the coconuts off ...makes a friggin big ding in a car bonnet ...don't ask

Put it underneath the car out of the sun is another fantastic idea.

Merry Christmas Jason .

Chris_M
2129 posts
21 Dec 2016 5:26PM
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Park it next to a fat chick....

You can use her shadow to protect your board, and she might drop some bits of KFC or something, free lunch!

rockmagnet
QLD, 1458 posts
21 Dec 2016 8:13PM
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DavidJohn said..



cantSUPenough said...



pumpjockey02 said..
Sand is an excellent insulator and the sand is only hot on the top, you are better off shovelling the sand on top of the board and letting it cover the board with the slick side toward the earth. As sand contains tiny particles of silicon it only gets hot when directly exposed to the sun. To check this on a blistering hot day lie down and cover your legs and torso in the sand, and cover the top of your body with an umbrella or other protection. You will soon find out that the sand forms a natural insulation and your body maintains a cool temperature. The indians found this out when burying people in the desert and leaving their heads out for the vultures to eat. A person can last for days like this in the hot sun slowly dying of sun exposure to the head. NASTY!!
Pump.





How deep do you need to go? I would imagine that you would need at least 4 cm of sand if it is fine sand.





I'd say about 6' deep..

I'd recomend one of those bottomless board covers that slip on like an ironing board cover..




Yes , but where do you get them. Ive got a heavy Balin cover, board gets hot. Ive got a sock made in Byron Bay, totally useless ,can't get the board into it and most of the grass and rubbish from the beach stick to it.
Want one of those blue thingies like in the picture.

cantSUPenough
VIC, 2131 posts
21 Dec 2016 11:00PM
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Tardy said..
Get vertical....then the sun only burns the top ..

Ever seen the old surf board photos of dudes standing their boards up in the sand ...
Limited sun rays and ya wax doesn't melt off .

It's only a suggestion .

Find a coconut tree .just make sure they've cut the coconuts off ...makes a friggin big ding in a car bonnet ...don't ask

Put it underneath the car out of the sun is another fantastic idea.

Merry Christmas Jason .




In the summer I spend a lot of time on a beach which is a long way from a car, and a REALLY long way from a coconut tree??But when it gets hot you can't walk on the sand barefoot...

I am going to try to order one of those UV covers - I will have it delivered to a friend in Florida and have it mailed over. Anyone want one?

Merry Christmas Phil!

Tang
VIC, 580 posts
21 Dec 2016 11:19PM
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Chris_M said..
Park it next to a fat chick....

You can use her shadow to protect your board, and she might drop some bits of KFC or something, free lunch!


Jeez Chris, that's a b-grade comment. Smarten up mate.

hilly
WA, 7323 posts
21 Dec 2016 9:00PM
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Don't you just surf

pumpjockey02
309 posts
21 Dec 2016 9:02PM
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Now I absolutely have a lot to thank you guys for as my life has taken a huge turn for the better since taking up the paddle boarding and your advice has been so helpful and appreciated but do we really need to go down the topic of which beach has the finest sand. I also have recently improved in the lady stakes thanks to my huge new pins from racking up nearly 10km on the lake each day and as she is from Victoria, I will leave my opinion for you to discuss in a polite manner without any one up man ship.

1. I am using the sand of the Foster area on the mid north coast as an example, in November to April the sand can get so hot you cant walk on it.
2. I have given you an exercise as an example that you can do after a long paddle and you need a sneaky rest. Just lay down and cover those legs of yours with sand.
3. Now I am not privy to the Victorian coast but I have been to St Kilda when it gets rather toasty on the feet. So that would be a good place to also try the cover test on some bayside conditions.
4. Cant SUP enough I have been to the beach with my nephews and their bodyboards and have only had to cover their boards with a light covering of sand maybe 2-3cm. Now this has been done with the slick side up and the sand has been 10m or so from the waters edge. As it works with a bodyboard I am sure it will work with a SUP as epoxy is so much more tolerant to warp than slick/surlyn bottom.
5. Remember you are covering the board with sand not digging it into the sand. so the board should need only a full light covering.

Actually the lady is from QLD but living in Melbourne and an ex swimsuit model. When I asked her why she picked me. She just squeezed my shoulders and said thats what she liked. I thank the SUP gods daily.

DJ thats just a shower cap for a board and my terry towelling cover has never scratched my boards?

supthecreek
2616 posts
21 Dec 2016 9:44PM
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Most Sunovas are all light colored on the bottom, so probably better off without the dark blue example above.
it may be designed to protect from UV... but the dark blue seems like it would absorb heat into the board.

I I used a "sun cover" I would only use a light colored one.

Better like this IMO





cantSUPenough
VIC, 2131 posts
22 Dec 2016 7:31AM
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pumpjockey02 said..
Now I absolutely have a lot to thank you guys for as my life has taken a huge turn for the better since taking up the paddle boarding and your advice has been so helpful and appreciated but do we really need to go down the topic of which beach has the finest sand. I also have recently improved in the lady stakes thanks to my huge new pins from racking up nearly 10km on the lake each day and as she is from Victoria, I will leave my opinion for you to discuss in a polite manner without any one up man ship.

1. I am using the sand of the Foster area on the mid north coast as an example, in November to April the sand can get so hot you cant walk on it.
2. I have given you an exercise as an example that you can do after a long paddle and you need a sneaky rest. Just lay down and cover those legs of yours with sand.
3. Now I am not privy to the Victorian coast but I have been to St Kilda when it gets rather toasty on the feet. So that would be a good place to also try the cover test on some bayside conditions.
4. Cant SUP enough I have been to the beach with my nephews and their bodyboards and have only had to cover their boards with a light covering of sand maybe 2-3cm. Now this has been done with the slick side up and the sand has been 10m or so from the waters edge. As it works with a bodyboard I am sure it will work with a SUP as epoxy is so much more tolerant to warp than slick/surlyn bottom.
5. Remember you are covering the board with sand not digging it into the sand. so the board should need only a full light covering.

Actually the lady is from QLD but living in Melbourne and an ex swimsuit model. When I asked her why she picked me. She just squeezed my shoulders and said thats what she liked. I thank the SUP gods daily.

DJ thats just a shower cap for a board and my terry towelling cover has never scratched my boards?


Foster has pussy sand. Your sand clearly is inferior to sand at the Prom ;)

Sorry, didn't mean to challenge how fine your sand was, I really just want to know how much sand I need to throw on top. ?At my local beach the sand is pretty coarse and I would think it would provide better protection than the finer stuff at the prom. ?Some days we stay on the beach from early in the morning until sunset with three surf sessions. But during the recovery sessions the board needs protection.

pumpjockey02
309 posts
22 Dec 2016 5:01AM
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Cant SUP enough yeah for the course sand this technique will work a treat you just need to form a barrier to the sun rays. Shell is going to work real well, however its a bit unpractical to bury large boards on a daily basis. My starboard avanti holds up really well in the sun, I leave it out for half the day sometimes and its fine. Although not in really hot weather. DJ is right if you are using it that often you really want a large light board bag to slide them into, like a silver quiver bag for surfboards, this section of the market has moved towards protective travel covers over lightness and now most covers are really hefty. As most travel covers weigh a ton, you will probably have to get one made. I think creatures of leisure still make them like this, light, silver and with easy access to slip the board in.
If you are staying in the same place perhaps try a coleman camp cover or annex as these are going to stay on the sand and keep those boards cool and also your toes as well. They are starting to pop up all over the NSW coast. Well they were until the shark scare. That is. Now it seems any waves for the early and late arvo session are free if you are crazy enough. Even the local crew are spooked.
It seems like you guys down there have less whites than we do at the moment.
A surfer was attacked just across from where I paddle in the lake. Now this place is sketchy at the best of times but having such an increase in surfer population means nearly any point on the coast now is being used and the sharks are coming across more humans. This spot would previously have been surfed maybe a third of the year with good conditions but now seems to be a daily surf spot. Unfortunately it was only a matter of time. It was reported as a white but the bite was small and I think it may have been a tiger or possibly even a grey nurse shark as the bite looked unusual, another reason why I am happy to have moved onto a SUP.
Good luck with your quest for coolness now i just need to get a shark protector for christmas.

cantSUPenough
VIC, 2131 posts
22 Dec 2016 11:27AM
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It is hard to keep the thought of sharks off your mind. We have a small island off from where I surf called Seal Rocks - they should just call it Shark Food Island. Thank goodness no one has been attacked here for a long time...

Maybe I should let my board get hot so the sharks burn their lips ;)

A simple tent/fly would be good. ?But I will try burying/covering the board, it should work well - at least we aren't worried about sand getting into the wax.

Chris_M
2129 posts
22 Dec 2016 2:21PM
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Tang said...
Chris_M said..
Park it next to a fat chick....

You can use her shadow to protect your board, and she might drop some bits of KFC or something, free lunch!


Jeez Chris, that's a b-grade comment. Smarten up mate.

What? You don't like KFC?

ChrisClarke1
VIC, 227 posts
22 Dec 2016 11:09PM
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Try the board sock from 1SUP1.com, keeps the sun off, protects from the surface heat from the ground or road you put the board on. Air flow over the board allows it to stay cool. Light weight and easy to store.





rockmagnet
QLD, 1458 posts
24 Dec 2016 6:55AM
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treatyoself said..
I like to use SUP UV cover. Picked one up and love how easy it is to put on and take off. Basically a sun shirt for your board. Have a bag as well but hardly use it anymore. *No connection to company just figured i'd share.

http://north2boards.com/products/10-sup-uv-cover






Just ordered one of these direct as the website does not offer international shipping. Quick response and great service

peguin
WA, 263 posts
24 Dec 2016 7:29AM
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travelled around Oz for almost 2yrs folowing the warm weather with a JP surf pro and a Naish mana on the roof of my ute. The bags fall apart pretty quickly so boards remained on the roof unless being used for nearly all that time without being covered up. No issues with either and Jp was used hard in waves and still is. So I've no concerns with leaving boards out in the sun. Neither of the boards have vent screws.



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