Stupid speed in the creek.
And that is the safe run, at least on the way out they can see most of what is going on. The way back in is what worries me. Surfers popping up after duck diving and the boaties having no chance of seeing them from the other side of the wave.
I've not boated there and haven't actually been their myself so not aware of how it works.
What is the speed limit? Is their one for the creek and one for the crossing also? I can see that is a very bad situation but i can also see the bigger problem of who has right of way to the resource?
Is their another way out and this is just a short cut?
Coming back in as was said, you would have no chance of seeing anyone in the water, especially at lower speeds of the plain and the nose sitting up high..
I see it a little like, when i turn up to a surf spot and beach fisherman have burley through the water, baits and are fully setup. Now obviously safety is more important so for me in the water i guess they should have to stop, BUT why do i get precedence over the beach than anyone else..?
Its a bit of a moral dilemma..
suspect its a bit like the "first person who takes off on the wave" has the priority
obviously those fish guys got up and got there ahead of you
if you were already surfing when they got there they wouldn't have even started fishing
Crazy stuff.
Not sure what can be done about the boats going through the surf zone but there is no excuse for speeding through the creek.
When I was over there I was amazed at how many people were swimming, paddling etc there, it is such a great spot.
Boating rules are..
6 knots zone inside the Creek and Mouth. Once they are at the end of the rock wall they have an open limit thru the surf zone.
Select to expand quoteangie pangi said..
Boating rules are..
6 knots zone inside the Creek and Mouth. Once they are at the end of the rock wall they have an open limit thru the surf zone.
when i did my licence you had to do 6 knots around people full stop. has that change? or surfers don't count.
its a sticky problem. boats have to go when they get a break in the surf
Select to expand quotelaceys lane said..angie pangi said..
Boating rules are..
6 knots zone inside the Creek and Mouth. Once they are at the end of the rock wall they have an open limit thru the surf zone.
when i did my licence you had to do 6 knots around people full stop. has that change? or surfers don't count.
its a sticky problem. boats have to go when they get a break in the surf
Well yeah its 6 knots with in a particular distance from people in the water..(I should know but i don't
) I think its like 50 meters
Select to expand quotelaceys lane said.. When i did my licence you had to do 6 knots around people full stop. has that change? or surfers don't count.
its a sticky problem. boats have to go when they get a break in the surf
Last thing you want is a boat half full of water washing around in the lineup. That's when the skipper starts getting really distracted. I haven't surfed or boated through the Alley for a long time, but I remember it being hairy decades ago both on a boat or a board. We've had a few near misses at Byron with the dive boats. It goes both ways too, I've seen guys with no idea of what was going on paddle straight out in front of a boat and box them in, so the boat just wallows around instead of just getting a chance to get the hell out of there. I agree, a tricky problem - propellers and people don't (or shouldn't) mix.
Select to expand quoteGizzieNZ said..
suspect its a bit like the "first person who takes off on the wave" has the priority
obviously those fish guys got up and got there ahead of you
if you were already surfing when they got there they wouldn't have even started fishing
you would think, right......
Maybe an idea would be mandating the boats using that bar should have horns fitted , sound the horn say three times to let surfers know to get out of the way or at least be aware a boat is going out or coming in.
Surprissed nobody was killed over the holidays; saw a lot of close calls!
Personally i think the boats should run around the rock wall and follow the natural flow (pic) and then head out around palmy. Or even better, launch and go out at talley!
I still dont understand why the lifeguards dont report close incidents to the water police. I know the marine rescue tower doesnt give a toss about swimmers or surfers. There quite happy with there 1 in 8000 deaths/injurys with crossings! ("there own fault for being out there")
I know ill be taking legal action on either if i get clipped out there!!!
I dont think the lifeguards will say something, hell they arent even offically patrolling the creek mouth, look at all the no swim signs etc, or has their postion changed in the last year or 2?
HA! I should open my eyes a little wider next time im there lol.
life guards don't want anyone swimming there, but they can't stop them short of shooting them
place is a nightmare for the life guards in certain conditions on a out going tide. possibly the most dangerous place to swim on the gold coast.
Remember 6 knots in Currumbin Creek and you must be 60m away from swimmers at that speed. Once past the groyne it becomes a boating channel were the boat has right of way as it makes its way over the bar.
The Patrol guys will take your photo and you will be fined .
Not very clever posting a video of yourself speeding in a 6 knot area where people swim and paddle.
Tally bar is uncrossable at low tide at the moment.
I use the bar as a surfer and boatie and understand both arguments.
Did you catch any mackerel?
This is an old video shot in 2012 and posted on Youtube Jan 2013 , the sand at the Alley is nothing like that now.
Just to clarify; not my video! found it while looking up tom tate's (mayor of GC) dodgy dealings
Photo was in 2012, so it makes it worse that he still went down the guts.
Nuffys still shoot through without looking before and after the rockwall.
You can stilll navigate around the groin and out past laceys safely. i do it all the time!!
Its the "i dont give a ****" menatlity of some of the boaties im worried about; expecially with all the family, surf schools etc using teh beach.
As far as the clubbies go, keep on hearing its the worst area. But the only rescue ive ever seen is when i called them over to help some kids.
The only time a see them out of there cars is when they go for a surf and they knee paddle past with there nuts dangling in the wind! no one wants to see that
when i did my licence it was 60m from swimmers at low speed.
technically do you class swimmers in the same light as people on ski's boards or SUP's
and if they are, tow surfers are breaking the law all the time.
i think a PWC licence for a Jet ski is 200m from swimmers,as i said i think.
A little known fact, is that you can (well in WA anyway not sure about other states) report an boating safety incident. Their is a form on the site that you can down load and then i guess you need a witness or two. If anyone was to handle a boat dangerously, than you just send that in and they have to report and follow it up. It may result in a lesson for the skipper, as in a better explanation of how the system is meant to work. Remember that many boat owners haven't had the luxury of seeing it from the water angle..
I guess the problem seems to be their, that even the Officials don't seem to have a clear cut solution..A horn would be great..
Maybe surfers could be made to were Hi Vis vests
