Here is a great video from Jimmy Lewis which will help anyone who doesn't understand what they are paying for in a premium board. "Sandwich Construction"!
Not all wood boards are the same, and like wise you do get what you pay for.
And Naish' LE contstruction. PVC sandwich bottom, Honeycomb Sandwich Deck. plus a lot more laminates.
Hy JB Le construction not that strong $3,000 10 LE Nalu is
6 months old lovely board, but two foot surf at high tide paddling out and what the ???
Jimmy is right to a point.
What he has failed to demonstrate is the EPS core with fibreglass/carbon either side of it is still a sandwich type construction. Not as good as PVC, but still a sandwich structure.
Overall, the video is misleading.
Select to expand quotemagillamelb said...
Jimmy is right to a point.
What he has failed to demonstrate is the EPS core with fibreglass/carbon either side of it is still a sandwich type construction. Not as good as PVC, but still a sandwich structure.
Overall, the video is misleading.
How so?
I thought he was talking about what his boards are made with
Select to expand quoteAndyR said..magillamelb said...
Jimmy is right to a point.
What he has failed to demonstrate is the EPS core with fibreglass/carbon either side of it is still a sandwich type construction. Not as good as PVC, but still a sandwich structure.
Overall, the video is misleading.
How so?
I thought he was talking about what his boards are made with
Fibre (glass, carbon or whatever) either side of EPS is a sandwich construction. Make no mistake, the construction of his boards are excellent, but not to comment about fibre either side of EPS is a bit misleading at best.
i see him demonstrating that a true sandwich construction is glass either side of the p v c, that is the sandwich, not Just glass either side of the foam.
Select to expand quotemagillamelb said..
Fibre (glass, carbon or whatever) either side of EPS is a sandwich construction. Make no mistake, the construction of his boards are excellent, but not to comment about fibre either side of EPS is a bit misleading at best.
Yes, a great video (and great boards & shapes, no question there) spoiled by dubious marketing tactics. I re-post what I said elsewhere:
Really nice video, great demo. But spoiled by false marketing claims:
- There are major brands that have provided for years bamboo layers sandwiched between 2 glass layers. He claims in the videos that there are none.
- PVC sandwiched by glass is not the strongest construction on the market as claimed: Just sandwich the PVC by carbon fibers to get a stronger one. And some brands do it for cheaper than JL glass boards. And some add kevlar...
I guess this is the US culture of every shop claiming "we make the best product in the world", since they have no laws punishing false (or unprovable) ad claims. But it is too bad, Jimmy stellar reputation do not need this cheap tricks. He should have shown other important construction details (quality of the blanks, paint, varnishes) than just using false claims.
PS: I left a comment on the facebook page of the video... it was deleted in less than 5 minutes... it shows how confident they are in their message...
I've had 2 JL boards - excellent construction however in the end design did not suit.
I've had 3 Naish boards and design suited me however all 3 had structural faults as did for 2 friends Naish boards.
Now have a J L pro and 2 custom boards plus kept my Naish Nalu in cotton wool.
webbo100 - Bummed to see you had an issue. The reality of the Nalu 10 LE is it is a super high performance board (personally my favorite), and the key thing that makes this board so good it the super low rail profile and flex. If you where to use another construction you couldn't get the rails that sweet and hence the board would be different. It's like owning a pros surfboard, the will ride like nothing else, but need to be looked after. It is also important to understand that a 10' board with just 1m of static water loaded onto it is carrying approx. 200+kgs of load. Start this water moving (like ocean movement) and there's is an enormous amount of load on the board. The tricky thing with SUP is because the boards are so big, even the smallest wave can be damaging if the board is put in a compromising position. If you watch carefully the pros on the SUWT, you'll notice they always care for their boards by flicking them over the waves and talking the hit themselves to lessen the load on their boards.
Board construction is funny in ways, and I always like to say it's a sliding scale. You generally can't have everything - Ultra durability, light weight and high performance. You must give a little of something or everything to come up with the mix that fits your designs primary expectation. Like with surfing, the best performing boards available are likely to be less durable then some brands that have chosen durability over performance, however the ride of this such board is nothing on the ride of a high performance board.
Ride safe,
JB
