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Created by rocko1401 > 9 months ago, 15 Feb 2013
rocko1401
VIC, 2 posts
15 Feb 2013 10:47PM
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Hey

I am surfing a starboard whopper 10' x 36" . I started on NSP 11'6" went down a few boards and ended up on a 9'6" PSH ripper. I have alower back injury whic flard up really badly due to the constant wobble in any sort of chop. So I had to go to something more stable or lose the use of my leg. I went to the whopper and was amazed. I love this thing, u can stand in any weather and ride it long boardstyle on the nose or toss it around from the back of the board.

I surf round torquay and 13th beach in Vic. it ALWAYS WINDY AND CHOPPY and all SUPERS bail when its not perf.
The Whopper surfs for me at105 kilos really well. i draggd it to Bali and surfed Balangaan which is hollow as. I paddled out the Ant Bombie off 13th and surfed it there.

For the intermediate and physically challenged wide board are a real breakthru. Why is there nothing happening in the 10'x36" dimensions. These are stand up boards not proner sticks. its dammn difficult to stand up out there. why the obsession with narrow? why not explore width and foil and materials and stop imitating short surf boards?


bradsdubs
QLD, 161 posts
16 Feb 2013 10:40AM
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I've got a 10'x 34"Whopper. I've also got a 9' Naish Mana which actually surfs better than my McTavish 9'1" Longboard. I love both boards, and go for the Whopper if its a bit windy and choppy due to it's comfortable stability, as you have described. They really do surf well..always brings a smile to the dial. There is a youtube clip of a guy surfing overhead Teahupoo..I'll try and find the link.
cheers

hilly
WA, 7323 posts
16 Feb 2013 11:17AM
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bradsdubs said...
There is a youtube clip of a guy surfing overhead Teahupoo..I'll try and find the link.
cheers


Found a pic in this thread www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/SUP/Best-Board-for-Big-Guy-in-Perth/

As i said in there "Love to see the video lol just looks wrong. Nice smooth day would be good to compare riders on a day like that. Anything is possible. Is it ideal is the question :-)"

The Whopper shape, especially rails, has been refined over the years, it looks like a good board. There are some great wide boards out there, JL, PSH, JP, custom, etc. Would not recommend them in large waves though

GizzieNZ
4102 posts
16 Feb 2013 1:12PM
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Oh go on Hilly.....borrow someone's whopper on a big day & give it a go....i remember you were always "knocking the whopper" 3 or 4 years ago when I had one.
If it doesn't handle it you can tell us all about it (pics please)

hilly
WA, 7323 posts
16 Feb 2013 1:44PM
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GizzieNZ said...
Oh go on Hilly.....borrow someone's whopper on a big day & give it a go....i remember you were always "knocking the whopper" 3 or 4 years ago when I had one.
If it doesn't handle it you can tell us all about it (pics please)



Ha ha would not dream of riding anything over 29 in solid waves just feels wrong. Yes I have tried heaps of wide boards but they are not for me in big waves.

Now small waves that's a different story thinking of a custom 9 2 by 31 for bumpy stuff up to head high.

surfinJ
673 posts
17 Feb 2013 12:54AM
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My winter boards were to be two 9-11s. A hull ripper and a AA 34' wide.
The ripper never showed so I took on all comers with the hideous but stable
fat longboard. First two surfs 6-8' outside peak, thruster set up. Felt like not
enough bite for big tail section, switched to quads - much better. Still board felt
on edge for the speed control. What surprised me, on takeoff, a feeling of a braking
action, getting hung up because of the huge width.
Third surf, 6' beachbreak and the board was fine, at first. Two backhand barrels
board is great, getting brave. A draining left pops up in front of me, I go, pull in,
try to pull out - board in pieces. Alot of board volume for tube riding.

ShireSUP
NSW, 982 posts
17 Feb 2013 1:17PM
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They aren't for everyone but they are everything for some of us.............

Started wide on starboard avanti 11'2x36 and loved it got onto waves without falling off (mostly) but after a while it just became too big, have graduated to JP Fusion 10'8x34 and love it even more.......will i go narrower, probably...........will I ever go to 28' - only if its 14' long!

colas
5063 posts
17 Feb 2013 7:51PM
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At speed, another factor to consider is the curve in the outline. Boards with a lot of curve in the rails will feel squirrelly compared to boards with straight rails.

Wodenau
NSW, 67 posts
19 Feb 2013 1:39PM
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I have two boards:

9' x 33" Starboard Hero

10' x 34" Starboard Whopper

...and I love em both. The Whopper for windy/choppy/bumpy conditions and the Hero is just fun with a capital F.

Have surfed them both at head high or just over and they both go great. Any bigger than that and I'd be very careful.

bradsdubs
QLD, 161 posts
19 Feb 2013 2:27PM
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I supped with a guy at Moffat Head and he was on a Starboard Hero 9'x 33", and he was having the time of his life in 4'-6 foot. On the Whopper I found it likes being surfed off it's tail. Great nose rider, only an aircraft carrier would be more stable, and if you just want to cruise on a wave, in normal standing position. Also,... I just cannot get it to nosedive..and I tried everything!

HumanCartoon
VIC, 2098 posts
19 Feb 2013 3:42PM
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9'10 x 33 Allwave is doing it for me.

surfanimal
NSW, 1642 posts
19 Feb 2013 4:40PM
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I've had this dilemma for 2+ years now.

I like width for stability between waves and confidence when sitting in a pack rather than shaking / shuddering with bent knee's or falling off which just sucks.

In saying that, in good waves, the width is so noticeable for anyone with a surfing background, they labour and the lack of speed compared to a 27-29 inch board takes the buzz out of the experience.

Similar to riding a longboard then jumping on a shortboard. You gain something (early take off / set up) but you lose sensation and critical moments.

I decided to stick with the casual approach with 32' wide boards (Fanatic All Wave & Star-board Wide Point) however to this day I miss the down the line speed of narrow boards but enjoy not looking like a crabby kook wobbling about and falling off in the line-up and given that we only spend 5% on a wave and 95% balancing, the width and comfort outweighs the speed factor IMO.





Salatiela
NSW, 378 posts
19 Feb 2013 5:31PM
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supanimal said...


" I like width for stability between waves and confidence when sitting in a pack rather than shaking / shuddering with bent knee's or falling off which just sucks. "




Right there with ya, not being the fittest of folk and a regular to 'the pass' being stable near the line-up, you can see ease on their faces. Being able to enjoy a larger range of conditions while not using all my puff staying up, awesome. Having a large blue tanker underfoot while trying to pull a hack...not so awesome....fark'n fun butt xx

bradsdubs
QLD, 161 posts
20 Feb 2013 1:31PM
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actually the speed of the Whopper is what I remember being most surprising. Moffat Headland on Sunny Coast usually has 2 sections with most people who take the first section pulling off when you reach the closeout, before it reforms . My McTavish Longboard, and most surfboards, get a bit bogged down in the closeout whitewater so usually I, like most surfers, kick out at this point or else you get caught on the inside. The Whopper just sliced through this whitewater as I flew through to the next section...Making for a 100 m ride into the beach almost , then with a comfortable paddle back out through that choppy inside rip on the return out...just have to show respect to the surfers and know your spot the lineup and pecking order , though.



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