Roy I think (for this lot) the only mistake you may have made with you marketing your fins was not identifying them as 'being hand crafted from individually collected pieces of clear whale **** from the pristine waters of NZ & coloured with hand squeezed locally found native plant dyes & that the leading edge "blunts" were hand worked into the fins using 10 day old pieces of seaweed".
Jees, give a rest guys it a "new" product & yes we all know they don't work, Ha. Chripes whats a set worth, not even a good drink or lunch, get over it. Good onya Roy. I'll PM about a set.
A few years ago Ted I was doing some work with the Australian Surf Craft Industry Association. With family in Education and having recently completed some Training and Assessing quals I was helping them at that time on the development of formal trade qualifications for surfboard manufacturers.
The benefits were many, creating a credible qual for little Johnny to see some kind of career path by linking it to Composites Tech qualifications and pathways to advanced applications outside of the Surfing Industry.
The largest win I believed was that as part of any trade qualification in this day and age would be to teach apprentices about other techniques instead of just the old PU and Poly standards.
Just imagine if you will an industry full of people with skills to mould, vacuum bag, explore other materials and generally not be afraid to experiment. Throw in youth, excitement and competition and where would we end up??
To cut a long story short the "experts" at that time could see no sense in teaching anyone anything other than the standard materials... Opportunity lost.
That sounds like a massively wasted opportunity too me - what a shame. Sort of sums up my general feel on the industry as a whole. It is such a shame that this industry has chosen the path of perfecting something that is 50 yrs old rather than heading down an innovation path where anything is possible. There are still some wonderful innovators out there (Bert Burger, JD etc) but in terms of people pushing the envelope as a proportion of the greater industry it appears relatively thin. Lets hope for some change one day soon.
Roy I think (for this lot) the only mistake you may have made with you marketing your fins was not identifying them as 'being hand crafted from individually collected pieces of clear whale **** from the pristine waters of NZ & coloured with hand squeezed locally found native plant dyes & that the leading edge "blunts" were hand worked into the fins using 10 day old pieces of seaweed".
Jees, give a rest guys it a "new" product & yes we all know they don't work, Ha. Chripes whats a set worth, not even a good drink or lunch, get over it. Good onya Roy. I'll PM about a set.
Nice generalisation...maybe if Roy wasn't so sure he knew more about surfing and surfboards than anyone whoever lived his post's would be greeted a bit more warmly...
Roy I think (for this lot) the only mistake you may have made with you marketing your fins was not identifying them as 'being hand crafted from individually collected pieces of clear whale **** from the pristine waters of NZ & coloured with hand squeezed locally found native plant dyes & that the leading edge "blunts" were hand worked into the fins using 10 day old pieces of seaweed".
Jees, give a rest guys it a "new" product & yes we all know they don't work, Ha. Chripes whats a set worth, not even a good drink or lunch, get over it. Good onya Roy. I'll PM about a set.
Nice generalisation...maybe if Roy wasn't so sure he knew more about surfing and surfboards than anyone whoever lived his post's would be greeted a bit more warmly...
Now your making Roy sound just like Legion
Roy I think (for this lot) the only mistake you may have made with you marketing your fins was not identifying them as 'being hand crafted from individually collected pieces of clear whale **** from the pristine waters of NZ & coloured with hand squeezed locally found native plant dyes & that the leading edge "blunts" were hand worked into the fins using 10 day old pieces of seaweed".
Jees, give a rest guys it a "new" product & yes we all know they don't work, Ha. Chripes whats a set worth, not even a good drink or lunch, get over it. Good onya Roy. I'll PM about a set.
Nice generalisation...maybe if Roy wasn't so sure he knew more about surfing and surfboards than anyone whoever lived his post's would be greeted a bit more warmly...
Now your making Roy sound just like Legion
I think its funny that Roy turns out handcrafted works of art worth a cool million and everyone has a crack. Its a shame really.
I would like to try one of those trailer fins for the thruster, looks like an interesting concept.
Playing with any other fin types Roy?
Coming up this week we have a thruster set on a standard template with the bumpy leading edge feature, in several sizes and cant options. Then some fish fins, a pivot fin, and a D fin all without the BLEF but with three different foil options in various sizes. After that the tunnel fins. The order can change when a particular fin is ordered. plus custom order go to the top of the queue.
I think its funny that people still believe the boards are worth a millon (or more accurately, one has been sold for a million).
Hilarious!
I think its funny that people still believe the boards are worth a millon (or more accurately, one has been sold for a million).
Hilarious!
Well that is what was quoted.
Now,I'm still.waiting on my fin pm from you.
Yet what I would.like now is the mccoy BLEF?that you suggested for.my single.shorty with the big arse...... And now I have just picked up the most fun board I have ridden in god knows. Midlength hp thruster setup. Love the fins it had in it,they were actually smaller than what I would usually ride,but were feeling nice. So I would like to.try a set up.for that sled as well. Awaiting your offer
Coming up this week we have a thruster set on a standard template with the bumpy leading edge feature, in several sizes and cant options. Then some fish fins, a pivot fin, and a D fin all without the BLEF but with three different foil options in various sizes. After that the tunnel fins. The order can change when a particular fin is ordered. plus custom order go to the top of the queue.
This I would like to try
I think its funny that people still believe the boards are worth a millon (or more accurately, one has been sold for a million).
Hilarious!
Its only worth what people are willing to pay..
Roy I think (for this lot) the only mistake you may have made with you marketing your fins was not identifying them as 'being hand crafted from individually collected pieces of clear whale **** from the pristine waters of NZ & coloured with hand squeezed locally found native plant dyes & that the leading edge "blunts" were hand worked into the fins using 10 day old pieces of seaweed".
Jees, give a rest guys it a "new" product & yes we all know they don't work, Ha. Chripes whats a set worth, not even a good drink or lunch, get over it. Good onya Roy. I'll PM about a set.
Nice generalisation...maybe if Roy wasn't so sure he knew more about surfing and surfboards than anyone whoever lived his post's would be greeted a bit more warmly...
Now your making Roy sound just like Legion
I think its funny that Roy turns out handcrafted works of art worth a cool million and everyone has a crack. Its a shame really.
I would like to try one of those trailer fins for the thruster, looks like an interesting concept.
Playing with any other fin types Roy?
I have no issue with Roy. It's Legion who i was poking fun at
This guy puts Mac and Co to shame big time..
Talk about a MEGA PIMP !
Oh come on surfbroker I've scaled my pimping right down to keep the peace
You know I could smash Roy
In the pimping game But I think Roy is good value well as a creative man.
This guy puts Mac and Co to shame big time..
Talk about a MEGA PIMP !
Oh come on surfbroker I've scaled my pimping right down to keep the peace
You know I could smash Roy
In the pimping game But I think Roy is good value well as a creative man.
Go on drop one of your out of the undie drawer classics
I think its funny that people still believe the boards are worth a millon (or more accurately, one has been sold for a million).
Hilarious!
Whats this BS no board is worth a million bucks ,what sucker would pay that,Id like to see a pic of said board,its not funny its hilariously sad :)
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This guy puts Mac and Co to shame big time..
Talk about a MEGA PIMP
In the pimping game But I think Roy is good value well as a creative man.
I agree about creativity and include Smart self promotion.
Yep. I'm all for those creative souls, including Roy, who are involved in the industry sharing their knowledge and talking about their creations. I'm only suggesting that the direct sales pitch stuff can maybe get a bit OTT at times. And to be fair, sometimes it's a fine line. That video of Tom Carroll in the 666 room is slick marketing... it's also a great vid.
I've got a head for technology and education/qualifications in chemistry...but..with surfing we've seen where Surftech went ( am I wrong to say Tuflite is no where near as saleable/desirable as it was say 10 years ago)..So ok it's innovation etc etc..but the majority of surfers are more inclined to stay with the old school, cost effective product..I might be on the wrong track..correct me if I am
I don't see what this has to do with Surftech.
Hey Roy..don't get me wrong...my Surftech comparison is about new technology VS old...that was my point..I like your idea
Meh! Hand crafted products have a soul, there's true beauty in the imperfection... I'm old school and I'll compromise ultimate performance for something "real" any day of the week...
Why do hand shapes have more soul than anything?? That would mean that anything done by a machine is crap and that isnt right. 95% of all boards come of a machine.
At the end of the day most people dont have a soul so what hope has a plastic fin????
I agree here that shapers still use tools but its still the craftsman thats making the calls, making small mistakes and imperfections that make each item its own in some unique way. And I for one would rather support these small independent operators rather than these large corporations that are just mass producing crap and exploiting cheap labor to support their own greed.
I guess thats just how I prefer things whereas I know that everyone these days wants to push a button and "Bam" its there and its perfect, its the freakin Jetsons really but not me, when I drink coffee its from a barista, not this nespresso wastage crap; when I drink a beer its from the local craft guy, not some international cartel; when I buy a hamburger its from the local shop, not one of these greedy multinationals exploiting our planet and when I buy boards and fins, its from an independent shaper, yes some of the popouts are awesome boards but i'm going to support the local guy and not some greed driven multinational corp that cares only about the money, not the craft...
By the way Roy, i'm not throwing you into that mix, i know your an innovator, but if you can use your extensive knowledge to shape the perfect noseriding fin for the Hot Log i'd be happy to test ride for you
Hey Roy??
How many large multi nationals back you?
Zero? So you are a small backyard opprrator exploring there own ideas.
Imo that is better than any marketing bull**** trying to sell on soul, what a farkin wank the latest resurgence has made out of riding a LB or single fin
Roy totally confused here with your fins.
firstly i have been on your website www.roystuart.biz/ and i see a few fin reviews here and videos but they all seem to be of SUP'ers or you surfing a board and going primarily in a straight line. I am interested in these fins if they snap or crack due to the layers upon layers made my the 3D printer. Furthermore according to your 3D viewer these fins seem to be quite fat and chunky is this due to the fact that if they are foiled down they snap?
the board and some of your other boards seem to have ridiculous amounts of rocker through the board
if I can add,you seem to only use the mid section of your board( tells me) way too much rocker and kind of face 50/50 to the front