Pussies

Yeah I think Matt regrets those words he said during that interview about its ok its Mick's wave.

On the Pussie front,we get the SB pussies drifting down the line up into LM and Rainbow,its like
John West and the ones he rejects.

Ted the peak where you are is one of the most crowded waves I have ever seen and that was 15 years ago! Tight take off too. I assume you are doing the long walk everyday to escape that or is the peak not so packed these day?

Leashless I think you misunderstood me a bit and are coming from a different POV to me mate.

I didn't say it was confined to sports people only , many successful people are self centered, egotistical and in many cases borderline Narcissists.
It has actually been studied many times and backed up so i wasn't just pulling the comment out of thin air.
It is actually a personality trait that can help them get to the top. A bit of Ego isn't a bad thing.

And i definitely didn't say all sportspeople.

And Your experience must be different to mine, my surfing has never been a selfish pursuit, i would never choose surfing over being a good person, my family etc etc. It just isn't that important to me, i grew up at the beach and have spent most of my life on the sand so missing a few waves or whatever just doesn't bother me.

Yes sir happy

Couldn't resist this someone asking for an opinion. I've got heaps.

Ted, I agree, if you feel strongly enough you should call someone out if they are doing the wrong thing. The problem is that it generally goes straight past their limited intellect.

I was paddling out at Tea Tree Bay some months ago when a guy blatantly dropped in on another surfer. I called out " hey mate, there is someone inside you". I got the evil eye and a snear. Shortly after this chap asked me what my problem was, I said " I thought I would let you know there was a guy inside in case you hadn't seen him".
His reply " Get Farked grandad".

I wondered how he new I was a grandfather. Anyway, it is unfortunate that there is an element in surfing that has an "it's all about me" attitude. This can be seen throughout our society unfortunately. It is also sad that a lot of people that are regarded by the masses as elite top level sportsmen have the same attitude. Not all but some.

I do not believe that we can educate our way to all surfers having the right approach, we are dealing with people, and currently our society is displaying a very selfish and self centred approach to lots of things.

This attitude has been around to some degree for ever. I am over 60 and have surfed since I was 14, it is worse now but has always been there. I grew up in Cronulla in the late 60's and early 70's and it existed then. Though to a much lesser degree.

I don't know if there is a solution, calling someone is good, letting them know they are in the wrong us good, showing consideration is good, obeying the unwritten rules is essential
An alternative is to be very selective about the times and places that you surf so as to avoid the masses. I find myself taking time off through the week to avoid crowds, or surfing on the rise or fall of a swell, or taking regular short trips to less crowded places.

The best you can do is to be the best you can be.

ET.

I was sort of guilty the other day sitting patiently waiting for a wave to come my way and it did but this fit young guy no leggie was paddling back out after his 5 waves to 1of mine decided to take it. I saw a red flag and said fk u buddy and took it as it was my turn,any way he didn't say boo which was nice of him.

Very disappointing thread considering its title

During the Winston swell I didn't even bother surfing the Friday and Saturday at my local point because it was so crowded and the amount of drop ins were ridiculous. Up to then I'd simply gotten sick and tired of the number of times people had paddled into a wave that I was paddling for without looking on their inside and dropping in or simply shoulder hopping and then saying "I didn't see you" or "I didn't think you'd make it".
Pffft...yeah I'm going to make it.
I just couldn't be bothered with the hassle any more. It was also pointless to try to educate anyone because when its so crowded all etiquette has been completely discarded by everyone else so its not worth the arguing.
Sunday I finally went bugger it and instead of surfing one of my shorter boards I took out my 8' modern blackhawk and even though the waves were back to 4-5' by then I just sat out the back and waited for the better set waves.
Had the most fun I'd had in ages because suddenly I wasn't taking off in amongst the crowd and bottom turning into the pack I just had to deal with all the wombats who would either just sit there or those who chose to chicken paddle for the shoulder.
Got one that broke far enough out that I could bottom turn and blast right by all of them before they were even paddling up the face or bailing their boards in front of me.
Anyway I literally kicked myself because I could have been doing the same thing on the previous 2 days but I was stuck on riding my shorter boards mentality which would have put me right in amongst it all so I didn't even bother to surf.
Now this doesn't do much good at a break like Snapper but for other breaks sometimes it pays to go out with a board that sits you out from the pack and while not being greedy about it, lets you pick and choose some good ones and you go home buzzing not frustrated and pissed off.
My next step in strategy is I've just bought a jet ski to access more isolated waves (oh and tow the kids around in the river on a tube).

et,the greedy farkers are even at it during the festival of greed,the 0'70s was a ****fight,no manners from the pro that won the event,surfing against his noosa mates,he even had a deliberate dropin from another guy just to pay him back,070 for fark sake ,it will be the same throughout the event from trophy hunters,im glad the surf is farked,they will all piss off on the weekend and many wont return.word has it that some overseas crew want their money back.

Yep...The greedy beaver took ages to arrive. In the mean time I ordered the McNeill cv2 and picked up the DVS weiner used.
Too many boards in that catergory. So when the greedy beaver finally turned up its straight on gumtree.

It's a no win for you Locky.
You sort him out and you'd be the bad guy.
Had Julian Wilson burn me on a set wave I'd patiently waited ages for at First point during a solid swell a few years ago.
I wasn't going to drop in on anyone to get a wave. (duh).
It was right before the Snapper contest and I thought about taking action but where would it get me?
So its no use with a top level pro and I reckon they know that.

Yes its tough with the pros - my main reason for the thread was not to have a go at MF only - it was in the more general sense of the average surfer - like the ones cuttlefish were talking about. Collectively it is possible to change things depending where you are. Obviously at places like Snapper its probably gone far beyond being repairable. But at other places on the coast its still possible to influence a few. I find the Euro's over here need educating about communication in the line up as well -- if you are not going to go - signal early so someone else can get into the wave - nothing worse than a slow day with long lulls and people let waves go through because they chicken out at the last minute. Signal your intentions early - Yes I am going - or No you have it. Simple stuff really.