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Speed and Glide

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Created by McHenry > 9 months ago, 20 Apr 2016
MickPC

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24 Apr 2016 6:37AM
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Macaha said..

Ricardo1709 said..
Glide is a component of speed when you are between turns and trimming without generating speed by turning your board so a board with good glide has speed without your input so you're better off with a wider full railed low rockered board more area means better planing while drive is speed generated by your input by turning the board



Well said Mc Henry get yourself a 906 or 10 foot Whalebone by CLEARWATER SURFBOARDS as Steve to maybe play with rocker if standard has too much rock and roll


The whalebone isn't really low rockered or wide by longboard standards. Its more performance than noserider, but its a great compromise between the too. If the Superfish & McCoys have been alright in McHenry's waves, then the rocker shouldn't need any adjustment

AndyrooMac

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24 Apr 2016 8:53AM
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Personally I found a huge difference between 9'6" and 10' in terms of glide. For me you want length, width, weight and flat rocker with softer rails and single fin is a MUST...

In terms of the clearwater boards, you want the Hot Log rather than the Whalebone, Whalebone is more performance. The Creative-Army 10'1" Sweet Love is even better for glide and these boards are amazing but personally I find the CW are better bang for buck

chrispy

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24 Apr 2016 6:56AM
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MickPC said..

Macaha said..


Ricardo1709 said..
Glide is a component of speed when you are between turns and trimming without generating speed by turning your board so a board with good glide has speed without your input so you're better off with a wider full railed low rockered board more area means better planing while drive is speed generated by your input by turning the board




Well said Mc Henry get yourself a 906 or 10 foot Whalebone by CLEARWATER SURFBOARDS as Steve to maybe play with rocker if standard has too much rock and roll



The whalebone isn't really low rockered or wide by longboard standards. Its more performance than noserider, but its a great compromise between the too. If the Superfish & McCoys have been alright in McHenry's waves, then the rocker shouldn't need any adjustment


mchenry has already owned a sold a whalebone.

I think teds post answered everything

MickPC

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24 Apr 2016 6:57AM
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Just for fun, coz my local part of the country is still plagued by devil wind till tomorrow

Rocker comparison...my whalebone


McHenry's Hotlog actually has the same dims, maybe a little more kick in the tail. Whalebone would have more glide if thats the case.

chrispy

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24 Apr 2016 6:57AM
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Glide = weight

In terms of local shaper I would disagree. Lots of good boards out there these days that would suit those waves. Can also advise a shaper what / where you are surfing and your level and they will make you something suitable.

In all honesty though I would think you have boards suitable for what you surf already. Your secret to success will be perseverance and spending more time in the water. Surfing takes a long time to master even the basics. It doesn't happen over night. You need to do the time. Watch lots of videos and see how people are moving on their boards and what they are doing with their arms & legs - extending and compressing and looking where you are wanting to go - these are the key ingredients. Get hold of Nick Carrols second book on intermediate surfing and have a read. Yes it's short board focussed but you will learn a huge amount. Maybe invest some cash in some lessons. You do that in most other sports - tennis, golf, snowboarding etc so why is surfing any different. No substitute for time in the water









well most of it spot on

Macaha

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24 Apr 2016 8:59AM
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Relax @ Mick I was just pimping for the team however a flatter rocker like the WB wider @ 23 / 24 would work in McHenrys soft cock waves, he should've able to snake and drop in

MickPC

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24 Apr 2016 7:01AM
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Totally agree Andy...surprisingly heaps more glide in a 10' compared to a 9'6

Was able to test this not last Friday but Friday before with a friend. He has the 10' Modern Retro & his son has the 9'6

MickPC

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24 Apr 2016 7:02AM
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Relax @ Mick I was just pimping for the team however a flatter rocker like the WB wider @ 23 / 24 would work in McHenrys soft cock waves, he should've able to snake and drop in


Fully relaxed mate...was pretty happy to see you recommend a CW to be honest

MickPC

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24 Apr 2016 7:05AM
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mchenry has already owned a sold a whalebone.

I think teds post answered everything


Ahhh haha yeah, at the end of the day you can't beat more time in the water

Macaha

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24 Apr 2016 9:05AM
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Haha I've alwy had nice things to say about Steve one hell of a human.

thedrip

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WA, 2355 posts
24 Apr 2016 9:17AM
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Those surf guides can give subtle style tips that help. Taj's got me lifting my rear arm on backhand waves. Allows more rotation and body torque.

obct

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NSW, 3487 posts
24 Apr 2016 7:02PM
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Others are also discussing this very subject.

They appear to have some slightly different views, but on balance, their overall assessment does not seen too far removed from our discussions .

www.swaylocks.com/forums/glider-comparison-munoz-11-vs-hall-fishsimmons


McHenry

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25 Apr 2016 7:43AM
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MickPC said...
Just for fun, coz my local part of the country is still plagued by devil wind till tomorrow

Rocker comparison...my whalebone


McHenry's Hotlog actually has the same dims, maybe a little more kick in the tail. Whalebone would have more glide if thats the case.



My board was a Whalebone but yes agree with most I need more time in the water but was just really asking a question about board design. Don't think ill be buying anything anytime soon

Simondo

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VIC, 8020 posts
25 Apr 2016 2:19PM
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Lower rocker will be better in weaker surf...

But keep in mind, South Australia has some great waves... The further you get out of Adelaide, the better the waves! ;)

McGuane

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25 Apr 2016 12:23PM
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Yep. I'm with Mac and Simondo re lower rocker for weaker waves.

But for the beachbreak waves I ride, I like the rocker on my 8' McTavish. Three phases of lurv.



Cobra

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25 Apr 2016 1:48PM
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It's been a very interesting read
Mac's comment about of Mchenerys soft cock waves
how many times. Do you surf LM over head Mac?


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