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Created by Cobra > 9 months ago, 26 Feb 2015
Macaha
QLD, 21884 posts
3 Mar 2015 7:25PM
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RoyStuart said..
I have a 17 foot board with a 14 inch fin in it if anyone wants to see it I'll post it up.


Post it

Cobra
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3 Mar 2015 5:26PM
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RoyStuart said..
I have a 17 foot board with a 14 inch fin in it if anyone wants to see it I'll post it up.


bloody oath mate.

let her rip

Cobra
9106 posts
3 Mar 2015 5:34PM
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we know the thing about the inch per foot.

i believe that theory would be thrown out, on heavy rocker boards ,surfed from the tail.

thoughts.

SP
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3 Mar 2015 5:43PM
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Throw it out all together, well kinda, it's a good place to start but doesn't tell the whole story just like a surfboard length..

IMO a 9 inch fin can give just as much hold and or drive as a 10, depends on the area or width of the base, width of the tip and rake of the fin

For example..
A wide base, wide tip 9 ( captain fin Jai lee for eg) is actually a bigger fin in area then say a 10 inch GG.

If you want to turn, big raked fins,wide base, narrow tip pushed up in the box, bit of flex doesn't hurt either.

For nose riding. Back in the box, shorter, stiffer, upright and more area..wide base and wide tip.



laceys lane
QLD, 19803 posts
3 Mar 2015 8:12PM
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Macaha said..




RoyStuart said..
I have a 17 foot board with a 14 inch fin in it if anyone wants to see it I'll post it up.





Post it



ok. my old bullet- all 17'4 of it well there is a little bit missing here

Macaha
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4 Mar 2015 6:21AM
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towball
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4 Mar 2015 4:47AM
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Macaha said..




A McTavish purist would only have Wiz Fins

laceys lane
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4 Mar 2015 4:44PM
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towball has caught you out red handed.



i'm telling bob on you

towball
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5 Mar 2015 2:26AM
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laceys lane said..
towball has caught you out red handed.



i'm telling bob on you


Tell wiz lacey ,that will cost Mac half a day . I told him fords were rubbish once ,didn't get home till dark.

Cobra
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5 Mar 2015 7:45PM
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SP said..
Throw it out all together, well kinda, it's a good place to start but doesn't tell the whole story just like a surfboard length..

IMO a 9 inch fin can give just as much hold and or drive as a 10, depends on the area or width of the base, width of the tip and rake of the fin

For example..
A wide base, wide tip 9 ( captain fin Jai lee for eg) is actually a bigger fin in area then say a 10 inch GG.

If you want to turn, big raked fins,wide base, narrow tip pushed up in the box, bit of flex doesn't hurt either.

For nose riding. Back in the box, shorter, stiffer, upright and more area..wide base and wide tip.





Thanks SP

Macaha
QLD, 21884 posts
7 Mar 2015 7:58PM
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Bigger can be better just smashed this poor little one.



thePup
13831 posts
7 Mar 2015 6:15PM
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mmmmmmm Beer always tastes better when you are horizontal

Macaha
QLD, 21884 posts
7 Mar 2015 8:18PM
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Dam iPhone pup

thePup
13831 posts
7 Mar 2015 6:20PM
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hahaha hey what's the weather like up there , how nice are the waves up there , and have you hooked up with Brother Ted

Macaha
QLD, 21884 posts
7 Mar 2015 8:23PM
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Mate landed 2 hours ago weather crap surf no idea beer stocked bike sorted it very quit here I must say need Titans score please

thePup
13831 posts
7 Mar 2015 6:25PM
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Good news champion it's 12 all with 20 to go ..... and Tell Ted the Warriors went down to Newcastle big time

Macaha
QLD, 21884 posts
7 Mar 2015 8:28PM
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Cheers mate wow half a team not bad

thePup
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7 Mar 2015 6:28PM
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Ahhhh cancel that Balmain-Wests 18 Titters 12 ..... 17 mins to go

Macaha
QLD, 21884 posts
7 Mar 2015 10:09PM
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10.5 by Tappy for deus 100 bucks





thePup
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7 Mar 2015 8:35PM
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Macaha said..
10.5 by Tappy for deus 100 bucks







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Nice Fin but geez Macaha think it's time you trimmed your nails champion !!!!

Macaha
QLD, 21884 posts
7 Mar 2015 10:50PM
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No shortage of nail filing here pup,I sent the pics to Mr V 10.2 when I was in the store going back tomorrow to buy that sucker its a beautiful shape and hell its going to look insane on his log.

thePup
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7 Mar 2015 8:55PM
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He will be stoked with that for sure dude

Cobra
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8 Mar 2015 12:55PM
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Mac, has anyone ever told you

you have lovely fingernails.





obct
NSW, 3487 posts
8 Mar 2015 8:42PM
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Cobra said..


obct said..
Well if you can wait until after Sunday night,I may be able to tell you because that's when I get given my 11 inch salty merchants fin for a B/day present.

knowing the way I ride, I doubt it will make a scrap difference but I'm still excited





Keep us posted obct,,,I'm very interested, hope the big V post about his 11 inch.



Well, my initial thoughts in many ways reinforce what I already knew, but did not like to say, no, too big is not a good thing, yes, shape matters, but size matters more.

My rule used to be "use the smallest fin you can for any give situation", I'm more confident than ever that for a person like me, who's number one priority is to just get on waves, the less fin drag, the better off I am, and I suspect that there's a few other that are not unlike me.

It cost me $125 to find it out, and I'm now the proud owner of a next to worthless Merchants fins, but at least I now know for sure that my simple little $60 dolphins from Dion are as good or better than any trendy hipster fin.

I tried it in 2 boards, my all rounder on Saturday and then my nose ride on Sunday morning, both boards I know really well, I know exactly how they catch waves and what waves I can get and what effort I need to put into the paddle to get on board. I caught one wave on the Saturday and nil on the Sunday before I gave up, went it and put the smallest fin I could find into the all rounder and started catching waves.

Went back out this arvo with MR and the same small fin and blitzed it again, made a damn dirty pig of myself before a cramp set in.

Now it's very possible that this would be a tremendously good fin once I'm up and going on a clean uncrowded wave, but because it hinders me from getting past step one, how am I ever going to know? So next time I hear someone say "there's no such thing as fin drag" I can have I nice little chuckle to myself.

While I'm on the subject, there was something else I noticed only yesterday that may have escaped my attention in the past, those surf schools we all love to hate with their millions of beat up old foamies invading our beaches. You would have to agree that the success of a business like this is very dependent on the ability of the school to get as many of their customers as possible on waves and standing up, lets face it, would you go to a surf school where all you do it get sore shoulders from paddling with no result?

Well, there I was yesterday, sulking over my poor fin choice when I looked up at a bunch of school fomies lined up on the wall in front of me and I noticed something that I had never noticed before, every singe one of them had had the to outside fins removed. I wonder why







LanceF
NSW, 249 posts
8 Mar 2015 9:02PM
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obct, is that the C J Nelson fin you have?

Kami
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8 Mar 2015 6:15PM
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"My rule used to be "use the smallest fin you can for any give situation", I'm more confident than ever that for a person like me, who's number one priority it to just get on waves, the less fin drag, the better off I am, and I suspect that there's a few other that are not unlike me. "

I'm with you, when i was still longboarding nose rider classic , my favorite was a 10'' cut away bamboo. The tip of the fin works as a trailer when nose riding tail up and got drive deep in water out of bottom flow drag while dropping knee turn.

As well on a 9' foot single a 8" cut away was my fin on that board. Let me going down the wave on the rail , as let me free of kicking out on closing wall.

So shape is more important than size.

Macaha
QLD, 21884 posts
8 Mar 2015 8:30PM
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Well that fin I posted is now Vanders

thePup
13831 posts
8 Mar 2015 6:55PM
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Good work mate , the Big V12 gotta love that

obct
NSW, 3487 posts
8 Mar 2015 10:26PM
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LanceF said..
obct, is that the C J Nelson fin you have?


No, it's a very long and narrow Grenough type fin, although the length makes it look like it has less surface area than it really has. It actually took up almost every mm of my fin box,.

vanders1
QLD, 3808 posts
8 Mar 2015 11:30PM
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Macaha said..
Well that fin I posted is now Vanders


Thanks big fella

although I'm feeling more like V0.2 at the moment, I think it's just a lack of salt water contact that I might try and rectify later this week.



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