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Are twinnies and fishes hoaxes?

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Created by enuenu > 9 months ago, 18 Mar 2019
enuenu
NSW, 109 posts
18 Mar 2019 4:26PM
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Looking at a new board. Toyed with idea of getting a twinny like a DHD Twinny or Channel Islands Fish. They look fast and flat, nice. Especially in small waves. Saw a bloke on a CI Fish absolutely ripping the other day in 2ft surf. The speed he was generating was amazing.

However something tells me these may be nostalgia trips and really, you can't beat a "regular" shaped thruster or quad, just add a bit more width and thickness for small waves. High level surfers can make anything rip. I'm worried I'd get one and after one wave go "this thing sucks", got to nurse it all over the place and if it's it's 4-6ft may be a shambles.

Currently riding an Aloha Bean as a quad. I can surf but not at competitive level.

DARTH
WA, 3028 posts
18 Mar 2019 2:29PM
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I've just got a Lost Psycho Killer, great little board for up to head high. I use it as a quad & a twin

Main
QLD, 2327 posts
19 Mar 2019 5:12PM
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Gotta have a fish !!

Legion
WA, 2222 posts
19 Mar 2019 5:32PM
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Great fun but I'm full time off them now. If you call 4-6' like I do, then that's not great for a fish and yep, you'll wish you had a proper board. Alternatively if you can afford a quiver (who can't) then a fish goes well for small waves but be careful, they can harm your surfing.

Tux
VIC, 3829 posts
20 Mar 2019 3:06PM
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Not a hoax

JulianRoss
WA, 543 posts
20 Mar 2019 2:00PM
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OK, I'll bite
I reckon any new board from even a semi-reputable one is worth getting. I'm mad you say. Hear me out...
There is nothing like the smell of a new board. Choosing then putting the fins in is exciting. Don't start me on the leggie.
Deck grip or old school. Old school for me.
So the board is ready. First light you're at the local, pulling the new stick out of the bag.
The run to the shore and paddle out.
Even before you've caught a wave, you're feeling 10 feet tall.
First paddle, catch the wave, fall off. Doesn't matter. You're getting used to it.
But you've got the new board feel. You'll head down in anything and be pleasantly surprised by how many waves you've caught, when ordinarily you would still be in bed.
Any new board will boost your surfing.
So nenuenu just get one that you think looks the goods.
And get out there. But not too close to me. I don't want you snaking my tiny waves.....

thedrip
WA, 2354 posts
20 Mar 2019 7:59PM
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I have three twin fins.

A good twin can go surprisingly big. Sucky take offs are not their thing, but any twinny worth it's salt should be a lot of fun in 4-6. Huge gouges are their thing rather than vertical snaps when it's getting chunkier. Bury that back foot and they will hold. I have never found them slippery and slidey when I am pushing hard. It's more when I am being lightfooted.

My twins are old school in design though, and not those HP short boards with two fins that peeps try to pass off as twinnies. If you want a twinny, get one with the design stuff that make them work. If you want a HP outline and foil and bottom and rails, then don't put two fins in it - that would be foolish.

They go unreal in barrels too.

thedrip
WA, 2354 posts
20 Mar 2019 8:00PM
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Oh yeah - I wouldn't touch a twinny off the shelf.

curlzbean
WA, 47 posts
21 Mar 2019 1:30PM
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www.patagonia.com.au/pages/never-town

some great twinnie surfing in larger waves around the 7 minute mark of this movie,
great flick all up

Grevas
147 posts
22 Mar 2019 8:24AM
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I've had a Rusty Heckler modern fish type board for about 2 years and have a lot of fun on it when the waves are fattish or lack punch. I don't really like riding longboards or mals so this is my option.
It goes fast, turns well and can ride it from ankle to overhead. rusty.com.au/products/heckler

Buster fin
WA, 2576 posts
22 Mar 2019 3:13PM
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The S7 fish is a bloody cracker for its price.

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
22 Mar 2019 9:05PM
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Not a hoax, kinda veeery general rule, short fat wide waves = short fat wide board.

marty72
QLD, 298 posts
26 Mar 2019 12:08PM
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I've got the Lost puddle fish in Carbon Wrap, which is my go to board from waist to chest high waves, I've surfed it around head high and its still goes ok but I prefer to ride my normal HP shortboard from chest high up. What I like about the puddle fish is that it gives you the extra speed in weaker waves and flies over flat section but it still holds when you put it on rail unlike some other fish type boards that I tried in the past. I find that it makes surfing small weaker waves that you wouldn't usually surf so much more fun and you can get out there more.
Check out some of the reviews by Noel Salas, Surf n Show Reviews on YouTube

TimKay
752 posts
26 Mar 2019 10:45AM
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Fishes and Twinnies are a hoax
In the consistent, quality beach breaks that Perth has to offer you want to be on any board that the WCT guys are riding
Highly rocketed, squash tail which is as light as a feather would be a good start
Thanks in advance

thedrip
WA, 2354 posts
28 Mar 2019 7:23AM
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marty72 said..
I've got the Lost puddle fish in Carbon Wrap, which is my go to board from waist to chest high waves, I've surfed it around head high and its still goes ok but I prefer to ride my normal HP shortboard from chest high up. What I like about the puddle fish is that it gives you the extra speed in weaker waves and flies over flat section but it still holds when you put it on rail unlike some other fish type boards that I tried in the past. I find that it makes surfing small weaker waves that you wouldn't usually surf so much more fun and you can get out there more.
Check out some of the reviews by Noel Salas, Surf n Show Reviews on YouTube


I'm guessing that's related to the puddle jumper. The puddle jumper is one of the worst boards I ever owned. Last two weeks and five surfs.

the WEBBER gutter lover is the other dog crap fish thing.

marty72
QLD, 298 posts
30 Mar 2019 8:37AM
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thedrip said..

marty72 said..
I've got the Lost puddle fish in Carbon Wrap, which is my go to board from waist to chest high waves, I've surfed it around head high and its still goes ok but I prefer to ride my normal HP shortboard from chest high up. What I like about the puddle fish is that it gives you the extra speed in weaker waves and flies over flat section but it still holds when you put it on rail unlike some other fish type boards that I tried in the past. I find that it makes surfing small weaker waves that you wouldn't usually surf so much more fun and you can get out there more.
Check out some of the reviews by Noel Salas, Surf n Show Reviews on YouTube



I'm guessing that's related to the puddle jumper. The puddle jumper is one of the worst boards I ever owned. Last two weeks and five surfs.

the WEBBER gutter lover is the other dog crap fish thing.


What sort of waves did you try these boards in? I've tried the puddle jumper round pin in about chest high waves, it went ok but nothing special. The puddle fish might have the same front as the PJ but the back is totally different, feels much faster in small waves. By the way I wouldn't call the PJ or the gutter lover a true fish, more of a summer hybrid type board.
Check out this review

Chindog
25 posts
2 Apr 2019 6:56AM
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thedrip said..

marty72 said..
I've got the Lost puddle fish in Carbon Wrap, which is my go to board from waist to chest high waves, I've surfed it around head high and its still goes ok but I prefer to ride my normal HP shortboard from chest high up. What I like about the puddle fish is that it gives you the extra speed in weaker waves and flies over flat section but it still holds when you put it on rail unlike some other fish type boards that I tried in the past. I find that it makes surfing small weaker waves that you wouldn't usually surf so much more fun and you can get out there more.
Check out some of the reviews by Noel Salas, Surf n Show Reviews on YouTube



I'm guessing that's related to the puddle jumper. The puddle jumper is one of the worst boards I ever owned. Last two weeks and five surfs.

the WEBBER gutter lover is the other dog crap fish thing.


Interesting Drip, was thinking how well my puddle jumper went after a cracking surf on the weekend..went a bit bigger in volume and ride it as a quaddie. What didn't you like? Curious..

marty72
QLD, 298 posts
10 Apr 2019 2:12PM
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Great surfing, but it made me think how much better would he surf on a proper step up in the waves of consequence? I mean if you gave Roger Federer a wooden racket strung with cat gut from 100 years ago he would still kick your arse in tennis.

Razzonater
2224 posts
10 Apr 2019 6:28PM
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Great surfing, but it made me think how much better would he surf on a proper step up in the waves of consequence? I mean if you gave Roger Federer a wooden racket strung with cat gut from 100 years ago he would still kick your arse in tennis.


Fair point and to some point I do agree with what your saying, however it's also one of those things from an archeological point of view where if you can master or even be competent on a twinnie/fish/log/single fin it transfers to your shortboard surfing.
I don't think he would surf it better on a normal shortie , I have a few mates that ride single fins solely when it's double overhead and bigger that's it.
It's not always about jamming 4 turns to the beach, sometimes it's more for the honour.

I like seeing a mal pull in at north point , or a single fin rider negotiate a point break barrel, a Twinnie sliding across a step in a wave barely holding on..

The thing with Twinnies is they make 1-2 foot waves fun for the average surfer, a 7 foot single fin in the hands of an average surfer on a point break may allow in one surf more waves and tube time than they would get out there's in 10 surfs on a shortie.

Closing statement:

Whilst hard to believe the average surfer if they spent 3-6 months on a board like this would have half a chance of going out and getting barrels like this, thicker board way way more volume so you can actually catch waves.
Everyone wants high performance shredding but first you have to catch the wave, most twinnies at 6 foot high are around 40-45 litres most new boards Merrill/csi/etc etc many people would be trying to tackle those waves on a 30 -35 litre 6,6 model and to be honest yeah performance would improve but the video would be two waves as that's all you would catch.

Kami
1566 posts
11 Apr 2019 2:14PM
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Hi mates, I've surfed and shaped Twin fin since the beginning in early 70' and as I can't prone anymore a shorty, I'm designing building myself Twinnies for my son. Here the ultimate of those before going to be cut on CNC.
It's a mix of modern influenced by the GoFish and from the last of those made just before the thruster took on at early 80'. Note the flipped tip of the tail

www.shape3d.com/Viewers/Viewer3D.aspx?Account=6301&BoardName=GOGOFISH

GPA
WA, 2519 posts
11 Apr 2019 5:07PM
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^^^ very nice!

Kami
1566 posts
12 Apr 2019 1:22AM
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GPA said..
^^^ very nice!




Thank you, this Twinny is 5'5 20,5" 29 litres and my son is 73 kg. He loves the board I use to build for him. This last one is mixed of the 3 or 2 last ones I made for him.
The white one 5'7" is a flat entry to Vee at the tail, the Orange one 5'5" is that kind of concave bottom of the GoFish... All Epoxy and Marko foam built for lightness and durability.



Here the link to the White one
www.shape3d.com/Warehouse/Board.aspx?Board=5047

Here is the link to the orange one:
www.shape3d.com/Viewers/Viewer3D.aspx?Account=6301&BoardName=BMFISH

Souwester
WA, 1259 posts
13 Apr 2019 5:41AM
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I know a pro will make any board look awesome but I love watching this clip

MickPC
8266 posts
13 Apr 2019 8:57AM
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Personally I like hybrids...some twin fishies on here...another fun vid



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