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Cott pool

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Created by SaveCott > 9 months ago, 28 Apr 2014
SaveCott
7 posts
28 Apr 2014 9:17AM
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There is a proposal to build a pool at Cottesloe beach. Some images from the most recent design concept are available here: www.facebook.com/OceanPoolsForPerth
This could heavily negatively affect Cottesloe's surf break. There is a public meeting this Thursday 5-6pm when pool proponents will put forward their design concept to council. Surfers are strongly opposed to the pool and would appreciate anyone to rally with them to let council know that this design is detrimental for surfing.

rbl
WA, 153 posts
28 Apr 2014 9:31AM
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does cott have a surf break? is suba correct?

Ctngoodvibes
WA, 1404 posts
28 Apr 2014 10:07AM
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^^^^the pool might get bigger waves than cott....wake off all the geriatrics doing laps

lost at sea
WA, 358 posts
28 Apr 2014 10:55AM
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it can,t make it any worse surely,It might be a great place to put all the white pointers ,we can call it the gws sin bin

Crazyhrz
WA, 14 posts
28 Apr 2014 12:33PM
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Change the design to include a artificial reef and we will all be happy.. I'd like to see a good left and right breaking out to sea there.!

mazdon
1197 posts
28 Apr 2014 12:35PM
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does the proposal have any scope for enhancing the local waves (create a smooth reflective outer wall to send wedges down the beach etc the wall might be prohibitively expensive due to the heights required, but worth a bit of modelling etc)? or has anyone speculated on such ideas as a compromise if the pool idea has political momentum?

genuine query for the SaveCott guys as i don't get on FB much.
all the old boys from the surf clubs and winter swmming clubs down there would be loving it for the next decade or so at least if it happened...
cheers

bene313
WA, 1347 posts
28 Apr 2014 12:49PM
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^ looks like the proposal is to be built north of the groin, so in the surf zone. See the facebook link.

bene313
WA, 1347 posts
28 Apr 2014 12:52PM
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SaveCott
7 posts
28 Apr 2014 1:12PM
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The people pushing the pool are interested in the pool, not surfing.

Initial research included an artificial reef off the tip. Luan Nguyen's research stated "... the submerged reef is suitable for learners and armature (sic) surfers but not suitable for more advanced or expert surfers". A new beginner reef, yay.

Latest concepts mention "possible artificial surf reef". Given the way governments are tightening belts, don't expect possibilities to become realities.

Also, who would like to surf over the rocks that they use in Perth groynes if they did build a reef? That's an accident waiting to happen.

mazdon
1197 posts
28 Apr 2014 2:23PM
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^^
of course they are only after the pool, but if you are vocal enough and willing to compromise, you might be able to incorporate something really worthwhile into their actual design.
from the perspective of seeing similar types of projects get bandied around in my work environment, you are better off trying to incorporate the best aspect you can in the design rather than demanding an offset item that would cost more than the actual project itself!!! tweaking that wall to maximise reflection and still mitigate scour in front of the tea room if possible would be the go imo.

re: surfing over rocks from groynes - have you ever dived over a few different examples of "natural reef" in the metro that most of us regularly surf on, on a calm day? i can point out a couple of cheese graters around the state as well to check out that might change your perspective or just stick to sand bars, no wait.. hitting one of those could also be an accident waiting to happen. maybe just go down to the cott pool and swim laps?

jbshack
WA, 6913 posts
28 Apr 2014 4:03PM
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mazdon said..

^^
of course they are only after the pool, but if you are vocal enough and willing to compromise, you might be able to incorporate something really worthwhile into their actual design.
from the perspective of seeing similar types of projects get bandied around in my work environment, you are better off trying to incorporate the best aspect you can in the design rather than demanding an offset item that would cost more than the actual project itself!!! tweaking that wall to maximise reflection and still mitigate scour in front of the tea room if possible would be the go imo.

re: surfing over rocks from groynes - have you ever dived over a few different examples of "natural reef" in the metro that most of us regularly surf on, on a calm day? i can point out a couple of cheese graters around the state as well to check out that might change your perspective or just stick to sand bars, no wait.. hitting one of those could also be an accident waiting to happen. maybe just go down to the cott pool and swim laps?


Yep i say work with for the bets result as you won't stop Barnet if he wants it..



The Eco Barrier system would do the same thing and could be removed in winter. But sadly that idea didn't get enough support


Buster fin
WA, 2586 posts
28 Apr 2014 4:43PM
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It sounds like a great idea. The addition of a sculpted wave or two would be a bonus though.

Razzonater
2224 posts
28 Apr 2014 6:10PM
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I've always thought the council should provide two d2 or whatever the largest front end loader the mines have. They could push sand up and down extend the banks. Make perfect little sand points all the way from trigg to city beach. The point would work year round, seconds and thirds would be a frames scarves would have a couple wedge waves. You could even bring more sand in to extend the beach

Crazyhrz
WA, 14 posts
1 May 2014 10:28PM
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Tell Colin they will call it the Barnett reef you watch it get build, Or maybe Prince Harry reef...lol



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