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A weird idea ??

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Created by Carvstar > 9 months ago, 10 Aug 2020
Carvstar
59 posts
10 Aug 2020 8:07AM
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Hi guys, I am a beginning to really like foiling. I am still a beginner, started 2 weeks ago. And I made below mount. Fits the BoomX Gopro mount.I think this should give me a cool perspective.... imagine the cool stuff you can record in clear waters.... if it works ??

But you guys think it will work?
Will I need to consider special technique to get up?
Any recommendations?







gregwho
NSW, 156 posts
10 Aug 2020 5:27PM
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It looks good but my tip would be buy some strong fishing trace wire and make a safety line to go around the mast. You don't want to lose that nice camera if something goes wrong.

Cyber
145 posts
10 Aug 2020 5:15PM
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Carvstar said..
Hi guys, I am a beginning to really like foiling. I am still a beginner, started 2 weeks ago. And I made below mount. Fits the BoomX Gopro mount.I think this should give me a cool perspective.... imagine the cool stuff you can record in clear waters.... if it works ??

But you guys think it will work?
Will I need to consider special technique to get up?
Any recommendations?









I think that it is a fantastic idea,
The footage that you will be able to make will be epic!

Before going out, make sure you put a vinyl coated aircraft wire (or similar marine grade firm wire) through the anchor point in your camera and then tight fit around the foil mast. Your rope arrangement and similar may not stay in place considering the forces impacting your camera mount there, when crashing out etc...

www.amazon.com/Forney-70450-Aircraft-500-Feet-16-Inch/dp/B003YDK3C0/ref=sr_1_8?crid=BM78GGKBBVLY&dchild=1&keywords=plastic+coated+wire+rope&qid=1597050230&sprefix=plastic+coated+wire%2Caps%2C226&sr=8-8

You will definitely experience more resistance in the water due to the bulky arrangement and turbulence it creates.
But as soon as you are up flying it will be like normal. Look forward to seeing some awesome and truly unique windfoil videos!
(Red Bull may contact you soon! )

Carvstar
59 posts
10 Aug 2020 9:34PM
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Hi Cyber, thanks man.

I wanted to go out yesterday but the wind did not show up. One of those days when you all rigged up and get skunked .....
Next windy day looks like to be this Wednesday .... so I be out there and test it.

Thanks also for the wire tip, .... I figured 2x options as per now, bungee rope and the new more strong plastic rope.
I may or may not ....underestimate the forces ... yes.... dont know ..... Though I am unsure about the bungee rope .... this may be too weak, but the RED plastic should do the trick! Its pretty strong and gets a nice tension on the setup.
But I will add an additional layer of "anti loosing this expensive camera" layer, ... Not sure if it will be wire, but I think of something and let you know.

I hope to be able to show an video if the cam stay on ....

Carvstar
59 posts
10 Aug 2020 9:38PM
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gregwho said..
It looks good but my tip would be buy some strong fishing trace wire and make a safety line to go around the mast. You don't want to lose that nice camera if something goes wrong.


Hi Gregwho said ... good tip, thx..

I see you guys believe that the forces may be more than I expect. ..

So I will try to not loose that cam.... like the fishing line ... I have some at home ... I am also thinking about cable ties.

I will see what works better and post what I did here.

Cyber
145 posts
11 Aug 2020 9:27AM
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Carvstar said..

gregwho said..
It looks good but my tip would be buy some strong fishing trace wire and make a safety line to go around the mast. You don't want to lose that nice camera if something goes wrong.



Hi Gregwho said ... good tip, thx..

I see you guys believe that the forces may be more than I expect. ..

So I will try to not loose that cam.... like the fishing line ... I have some at home ... I am also thinking about cable ties.

I will see what works better and post what I did here.


Hi Carvstar, it looks like its a GoPro camera that you have?

Most shops selling the GoPro range also have some great and solid wire tethers as safety lines for the cameras.
I have myself a bundle like this one, so always having a safety line in relevant length, no matter my situation.
www.amazon.com/YuCool-Stainless-Colorful-Lanyards-Compatible/dp/B07P41MRD5/ref=sr_1_8?crid=2AKLHJB807ZZ9&dchild=1&keywords=gopro+safety+tether&qid=1597108727&sprefix=Gopro+safety+%2Caps%2C276&sr=8-8

Carvstar
59 posts
11 Aug 2020 10:00PM
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Hi Cyber, thanks for the feedback. Just had a look, these are steel ropes with plastic coating - not so much a fan of it, but yes, they strong and they will secure your camera.

As a safety leash (for example on my Sliver Camera Mast Mount) I use the Chinook downhaul lines.

----- and I will use Chinook line also for this project. The fishing line is a good option because its soooo thin with little drag (reason why I am thinking about), but the way I will mount the safety leash it will not matter. I will show a picture soon I get on the water. Unfortunately there is not much wind in sight the next few days..... man!





WhiteofHeart
762 posts
11 Aug 2020 11:05PM
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Just make sure you dont fly too close to the water! The camera will create turbulence which might result in the mast losing grip/ crashing. I had the same problem with a really bulky reinforcement at the top of the mast.

Carvstar
59 posts
12 Aug 2020 1:17AM
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Ok - will try ...

.... you know, just started foiling 2 weeks ago ... so I carve a pretty Wavy line into the air throwing-in some entertaining (at least for the other surfers) catapults from time to time

segler
WA, 1623 posts
13 Aug 2020 10:37AM
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We need footage. Footage, man, footage. Good luck. We look forward to see how well it will work. Footage!

Carvstar
59 posts
15 Aug 2020 12:50AM
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Hi guys

Here the first footage, see Youtube link below.

Below pics show the camera setup I used.
I did record with an 360cam - but used only one side of the lens, the other had the cover on to not scratch the lens touching the board.

There was barely wind - so I was pumping the hell out of that sail but got up just a littlebit. Sorry for that.

I will make another attempt and mount the camera so it can actually record 360. I will post soon.

The footage is 8min - stay on it - see how the weeds stick and do not let go of the wing, very interesting.

And actually, I believe that mount I use with that special rope is perfect will will hold on to very strong forces - I believe there is very little chances of a fail. However, you can see the Chinook line as safety, .... in case .... :-)





Youtube:




Carvstar
59 posts
15 Aug 2020 7:52AM
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I will continue the discussion under:
Underwater Foil Recording.

BSN101
WA, 2296 posts
15 Aug 2020 10:07AM
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Youtube:





Why face the lens down & other one directly at the bottom of the board? If set left & right you would get more footage?

segler
WA, 1623 posts
16 Aug 2020 1:09AM
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Yup, foils are weed magnets.

Carvstar
59 posts
16 Aug 2020 11:36PM
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Check this out - wait for it - super cool ;-)


segler
WA, 1623 posts
16 Aug 2020 11:52PM
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Very cool indeed. I have a question. You notice that the board rolls a little left and right, while the camera seems extremely fixed at level.

Since the camera is attached to the foil mast, is the mast flexing where it plugs into the board? Or is this a feature of the software?

Carvstar
59 posts
16 Aug 2020 11:58PM
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Hi Segler, its the software. I use the GoPro Max - it a 360 cam and the recordings software deals with a 360 movie and does distort and flex.

The camera is fixed - no movement - the mast and all the setup too :-)



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