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Connectors for combining foils, fuselage and masts of different brands.

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Created by YellowHelmet Yesterday, 19 Sep 2024
YellowHelmet
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Yesterday , 19 Sep 2024 6:29AM
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I've been foiling for a year now and I definitely like it.

I'm using different Infinity foils of the Hover Glide line of Slingshot.

Right now I' considering upgrading to newer more medium / higher aspect foils.

I've been reading interesting discussions over here.

I understand there is :

1. Some compatibility within Singshot between Hover Glide and Phantasm by means of an adaptor between the Hover Glide mast and the Phantams fuselage or by a special fuselage for Hover Gilde foils to be put on a Phantasm mast.

2. Some compatibilty between the front foils of Slingshot and Sabfoil. Maybe also for the stabilizer ?

So now I have to decide which path I take and I doubt.

I also like the Gong foils there is a huge collection maybe 10 different types and sometimes 10 sizes, they only have 1 physical shop in the South of France and order everything on line, not expensive, I hear good quality, much equipment second hand, all compatible, for windfoil, extra extension piece on fuselage.

I saw there is a Spanish firm making connector pieces for Gong and other brands + I found a discussion thread about this.

Does somebody has experience of a (custom) connector piece between Gong and Slingshot Hover Glide ?

Or other brands and Slingshot.

Or inbetween other brands ?

Are these connectors strong, rigid, stiff ?

And is this the case for the Slingshot Hover Glide - Phantasm connector.

Could a Sabfoil mast be connected to a Slingshot Phantasm fuselage or the other way around, by means of a (custom) connector ?

I know a new aluminum mast is not so expensive, but a carbon mast is.

And furthermore I hate piling up material, my car is cramped, I have limited space.

I dislike incompatible gear.

For example I get masts with interchangable sections although the masts have a different length, so I can make all kind of lenght combinations. Same for the wishbone with 60 cm extensions.

I would like at least the board/mast connection and the mast/fuselage connection should be universal.

Like biking : Shimano and SRAM can be mixed.

Paducah
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Yesterday , 19 Sep 2024 7:26AM
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YellowHelmet said..
... Like biking : Shimano and SRAM can be mixed.


Chains and cassettes but not that much else anymore

Thank heavens for Taiwanese and Chinese component manufacturers offering some compatible options. Still a few bikes in the fleet are on friction - the Windsurfer LT of the bike world.

There's this thread about cobbling together various bits: www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/Foiling/Chop-Shop--Customs--Mix-Match

with Slingshot blowing out stuff at good prices, I'm about to embark on a couple of projects in the cooler months here

There's also this thread elsewhere about redoing Starboard fuses that I found fascinating: www.windsurfing33.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=134723

Grantmac
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Yesterday , 19 Sep 2024 8:34AM
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The Slingshot mast you have now is awful. Not worth incorporating into any future system.

I've ridden Gong and Phantasm stuff for a while. Both have advantages and disadvantages. Both of their existing systems are being replaced with ones that aren't backwards compatible (for wings anyway).

The first question to ask is what kind of foiling are you looking to do. Go fast? Ride swell? Cruise around without much sail pressure?
The second question is what kind of connection do you want to the board: Tuttle or track?
The next question is how little wind you expect to foil in.
The last is what you weigh.

BSN101
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4 hours ago , 20 Sep 2024 12:06AM
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Why??
Id not want to rely on connectors holding non compatible bits together while I was out FOILING!!! But I'm not a clever peep and I don't have the time to make test fail make more and constantly miss TOW. heaps of respect for those that do tinker, I'm just not one.

Gwarn
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4 hours ago , 20 Sep 2024 12:18AM
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www.jimstringfellow.com/

He will make anything that you need....

Paducah
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4 hours ago , 20 Sep 2024 12:27AM
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Why??
Id not want to rely on connectors holding non compatible bits together while I was out FOILING!!! But I'm not a clever peep and I don't have the time to make test fail make more and constantly miss TOW. heaps of respect for those that do tinker, I'm just not one.


One good reason is that with so few standards, over time, as manufactures stop supporting old standards, gear wears out, breaks, etc we'll all end up with orphan pieces. A great mast, decent fuse but sucky old wing. Should I chuck a nice 97cm carbon mast or try to reuse it with better, more modern wings? Do we chuck all those nice old orange slingshot wings or try use them with more modern gear?

Yes, there is a risk and it may mean that if something goes sideways, we lose a day on the water. But if money is tight, that's a fair trade off for some.

Like you suggest, it's not for everyone. It's like bikes - some just want to go to a shop and get a new one with no worries. Others are willing to get an older bike and just update the relevant parts.



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