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Foil gybing is easy

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Created by azymuth > 9 months ago, 8 Sep 2019
azymuth
WA, 2100 posts
8 Sep 2019 9:11AM
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A lot of comments about how difficult it is to foil gybe...
I reckon there's no need for foil newbies to be unduly discouraged

It's a steep learning curve for sure but once you can do it, it's easier than gybing a slalom board or wave board in similar conditions - I'm sure Jesper and Simon would agree.
It's possible to sail a couple of hours in ocean swells foiling through every gybe using the swell to turn.

Have I mentioned how epic ocean downwinding is?

Here's Simon from 6 months ago - he's faster and even smoother now

boardsurfr
WA, 2446 posts
8 Sep 2019 9:28AM
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Nice gybes. Thanks for posting, encouragement is needed.

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It's a steep learning curve for sure but once you can do it, it's easier than gybing a slalom board or wave board in similar conditions -



I'd have a hard time believing that if not for some light wind tricks that are similar. It took me a long time to learn the new school duck tack, but now it's probably the move where I am closest to 100% success. Both duck jibes and duck tacks (especially old school) look cool on the foil, but I have yet to get myself to duck when foiling. As I said, encouragement is needed . I did just try my first foiled heli tack yesterday - another cool looking move that can be foiled through. Did not make it but got to getting backwinded while on the foil, and was amazed how quickly the foil turned off the wind then. Seemed more promising than most of my foiling jibe tries .

LeeD
3939 posts
8 Sep 2019 9:46AM
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Not easy in flat water for this 70 year old.
Planing thru on slalom, freeride, or wave boards is easy. Been windsurfing for 36 years in SF Bay area.

MagicRide
688 posts
8 Sep 2019 12:53PM
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azymuth said..
A lot of comments about how difficult it is to foil gybe...
I reckon there's no need for foil newbies to be unduly discouraged

It's a steep learning curve for sure but once you can do it, it's easier than gybing a slalom board or wave board in similar conditions - I'm sure Jesper and Simon would agree.
It's possible to sail a couple of hours in ocean swells foiling through every gybe using the swell to turn.

Have I mentioned how epic ocean downwinding is?

Here's Simon from 6 months ago - he's faster and even smoother now


Very magical and peaceful looking! Very enjoyable to watch!

DarrylG
WA, 501 posts
8 Sep 2019 8:21PM
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I have to agree with you JJ. You have to get your head around a few different balance points but once it clicks they become effortless. There is nothing better than gliding thru a gybe with hardly any loss of speed.
:)))))))))))))
very smooth Simon

www.relive.cc/view/vDqgJwEokG6

CAN17
575 posts
8 Sep 2019 8:51PM
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Nice video.
It is really not as hard it seems. Just pulled off my first couple yesterday. The infinity 76 is very forgiving and let's you mess up the footwork a little(sometimes).

2keen
WA, 370 posts
8 Sep 2019 9:20PM
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Yep, agree JJ
Foil gibing is easy??
Of course there is a learning curve but I find that part so much fun. For anyone that can competently windsurf and picks up the right foiling gear they will be flying through gybes in no time.
Simon

2keen
WA, 370 posts
9 Sep 2019 8:22AM
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Foil gybing is easy??
Should read.....
Foil gybing is easy
easier than posting!!

dejavu
825 posts
9 Oct 2019 4:08AM
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Here's a video of Wyatt Miller foil gybing. What he says to do and what he actually does is slightly different. It appears to me that he takes two steps to get his front foot moved to the back of the centre of the board.

LeeD
3939 posts
9 Oct 2019 6:53AM
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Wyatt is an above average windsurfer.
He was throwing front and back loops within 30 days of foiling his first season.

dejavu
825 posts
10 Oct 2019 1:45AM
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No doubt Wyatt is an exceptional foiler but the actual technique he uses in the video is slightly more complicated than his on land demo instructions. Take a look at his actual gybing foot positioning and compare it to his on land explanation.

I'm certainly not criticizing his technique just noticing a slight discrepancy between what he says to do and what he's actually doing -- he appears to have added an extra small front foot movement before moving the front foot to the back of the board, which isn't noted in his on land demo and verbal instructions.

LeeD
3939 posts
10 Oct 2019 1:57AM
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Good catch!
The 2 best jibing foilers here both move their front foot out of front strap before starting the sail flip.
Both vary a bit, and sometimes finish the feet before starting to flip.

tintingwen
131 posts
10 Oct 2019 2:22AM
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My tutorial for foiling jibe

berowne
NSW, 1415 posts
19 Oct 2019 10:50PM
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tintingwen said..
My tutorial for foiling jibe



Great video - even in French! Thanks...

Boston!
NSW, 254 posts
20 Oct 2019 10:20AM
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Great video. Thanks for the translation.

dejavu
825 posts
7 Nov 2019 7:59AM
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Here's a video with one high wind gybe after another. The good guys sure make it look easy!

BSN101
WA, 2336 posts
7 Nov 2019 8:16AM
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dejavu said..
Here's a video with one high wind gybe after another. The good guys sure make it look easy!



Truely amazing.

azymuth
WA, 2100 posts
7 Nov 2019 8:40AM
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dejavu said..
Here's a video with one high wind gybe after another. The good guys sure make it look easy!







Awesome vid - nice downwind run at 3.15
The 1.1m mast looks super-forgiving.

2keen
WA, 370 posts
7 Nov 2019 11:20AM
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Awesome sailing
Only a Freeride Foiler knows how much fun that dudes having
Obviously windy, but am intrigued which wing he has combined with such a small sail

KDog
336 posts
7 Nov 2019 12:12PM
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Lake Mohave is the Colorado river below Las Vegas its a winter time spot and when it blows its always that windy.I met the guy in the video last summer in the gorge he is more than likely riding the new phantasm wings,the wing he was using most last summer was very similar to the inf.76. Don't know the sail size but my guess would be 3.0 board is probably custom 85lit. Looks fun if you have the right gear!

Adam555
WA, 162 posts
7 Nov 2019 9:00PM
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dejavu said..
Here's a video with one high wind gybe after another. The good guys sure make it look easy!



Sensational skills !

ZeeGerman
294 posts
8 Nov 2019 3:40PM
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Amazing!
Another video of his confirms that the duck gybe is having a big comeback in the windsurfing world due to foiling. The bloke really makes it look a piece of cake!

dejavu
825 posts
9 Nov 2019 2:57AM
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KDog said..
Lake Mohave is the Colorado river below Las Vegas its a winter time spot and when it blows its always that windy.I met the guy in the video last summer in the gorge he is more than likely riding the new phantasm wings,the wing he was using most last summer was very similar to the inf.76. Don't know the sail size but my guess would be 3.0 board is probably custom 85lit. Looks fun if you have the right gear!


Not sure, but it wouldn't surprise me if he was riding the Slingshot 103 with a Ghost Whisper foil (111 cm. mast).

IndecentExposur
297 posts
9 Nov 2019 3:30AM
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dejavu said..

KDog said..
Lake Mohave is the Colorado river below Las Vegas its a winter time spot and when it blows its always that windy.I met the guy in the video last summer in the gorge he is more than likely riding the new phantasm wings,the wing he was using most last summer was very similar to the inf.76. Don't know the sail size but my guess would be 3.0 board is probably custom 85lit. Looks fun if you have the right gear!



Not sure, but it wouldn't surprise me if he was riding the Slingshot 103 with a Ghost Whisper foil (111 cm. mast).


That board makes his mast look big.

BSN101
WA, 2336 posts
9 Nov 2019 12:00PM
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ZeeGerman said..
Amazing!
Another video of his confirms that the duck gybe is having a big comeback in the windsurfing world due to foiling. The bloke really makes it look a piece of cake!


I bet that he would do a crazy 1hr with about 100 gybes! Im inspired.

tonyk
QLD, 565 posts
9 Nov 2019 3:37PM
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ZeeGerman said..
Amazing!
Another video of his confirms that the duck gybe is having a big comeback in the windsurfing world due to foiling. The bloke really makes it look a piece of cake!





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ZeeGerman said..
Amazing!
Another video of his confirms that the duck gybe is having a big comeback in the windsurfing world due to foiling. The bloke really makes it look a piece of cake!



That's a gybe guru, amazing stuff
I'll be happy to nail just a couple in the length of that video
Time to get on the battle armor and get started

thedoor
2410 posts
10 Nov 2019 10:14AM
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dejavu said..
Here's a video with one high wind gybe after another. The good guys sure make it look easy!



Any chance he was driving a westfalia?

dejavu
825 posts
10 Nov 2019 11:39PM
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Here's another how to foil gybe made easy video:

SA_AL
298 posts
11 Nov 2019 4:12AM
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dejavu said.. just noticing a slight discrepancy between what he says to do and what he's actually doing -- he appears to have added an extra small front foot movement before moving the front foot to the back of the board, which isn't noted in his on land demo and verbal instructions.


He is not right away putting his feet on the center of the board. First his feet in behind the footstraps and then going to center line. (at 1.33 second in the video)


Hess
295 posts
7 Dec 2019 1:04AM
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I have to agree that Foilers do not need to be overly concerned about learning to Jibe. Although I am a bit bias because I posted the video "Windfoil JIbe the Easy Way". Oh thanks for the repost.
As an update I have talked a few people into trying Jibing without foot straps, on wider boards, and they are all Jibing now. Its not like I foil much (most of the footage is with less that 40 total sessions ) and I am 60 plus.
I have to add,I believe Windfoiling is safer without footstraps as a couple of my friends have gotten hurt when falling with their foot stuck in the strap.
Give it a fair try and I hope it helps

segler
WA, 1635 posts
9 Dec 2019 1:01AM
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If I manage to jibe while flying, it's purely accidental. LOL

Most of the time I just come down off the wing, jibe, then sheet/pump on the new tack to get flying again. It works. Not as elegant as these guys that keep their board dry all day, but--Hey!--it's still tons of fun.



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