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Girls business

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Created by JayGirl > 9 months ago, 12 Feb 2010
JayGirl
10 posts
12 Feb 2010 1:53PM
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Just a quick query for all the girls out there...should you windsurf during that 'special' week of every month? It's just, I know sharks can detect blood in the water at 1 part per million and since tampons soak up water I figure there must be some interchange between the blood and the water. What do you think? Perhaps the reason behind shark attacks at beaches is all the menstruating ladies in the water?

sausage
QLD, 4873 posts
12 Feb 2010 4:09PM
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Personally I think you should stop being so bloody naive.

PS - Apologies for responding as I'm not a girl either.

Mark _australia
WA, 22882 posts
12 Feb 2010 2:09PM
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Forget the old myth that sharks can detect a drop of blood in a billion litres of water or whatever rot people come up with.

Think about a drop of blood in the water- the shark can't detect it until it dissolves and all the molecules spread out and a molecule reaches the shark. It would take hours for any of those molecules to make it even 100m away. Even pouring a litre in would not attract sharks immediately unless they are within a few metres.... and if you're bleeding like that go to hospital

I have heard of a study where the results showed sharks were attracted to fish blood (and other similar marine goo) but not all all to human and other primates' blood. Dunno how tru / can't be bothered googling

sausage
QLD, 4873 posts
12 Feb 2010 4:16PM
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Mark,
^ totally agree with you about debunking the 1 part / million myth.
Quantum on ABC did a story where they spent some considerable time testing blood, urine and dogs in a shark tank and from memory there wasn't a noticeable change in the sharks behaviour with the blood or urine but the dog did gain some reaction. I will try to locate link.

FormulaNova
WA, 14921 posts
12 Feb 2010 2:24PM
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sausage said...

Mark,
^ totally agree with you about debunking the 1 part / million myth.
Quantum on ABC did a story where they spent some considerable time testing blood, urine and dogs in a shark tank and from memory there wasn't a noticeable change in the sharks behaviour with the blood or urine but the dog did gain some reaction. I will try to locate link.


That's where it was! I saw it too and couldn't remember where it was.

It was the dogs movement though wasn't it?

I think they were arguing that unless its fish blood, the shark doesn't see it as a link to food and just ignores it.

Mark, please stop applying logic to problems.

sausage
QLD, 4873 posts
12 Feb 2010 4:34PM
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Oops - might have to retract my above non-scientic based statement
Sense of smell
Like all fish, sharks can ‘smell’ proteins at tiny
concentrations of one part protein to one billion
parts water.
Sharks locate prey by comparing chemical
concentrations between their left and right nostrils.

Windxtasy
WA, 4017 posts
12 Feb 2010 2:44PM
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Funny that all these guys are reading a thread titled "girl's business".
Sticky beaks!

As to the original question, sharks can detect minute amounts of blood/ chemicals in the water.
It is something I think about. Does it stop me sailing? No.
I probably leak more blood into the water from scraping myself on the deck when I fall off.

Mark _australia
WA, 22882 posts
12 Feb 2010 3:00PM
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sausage said...

Oops - might have to retract my above non-scientic based statement
Sense of smell
Like all fish, sharks can ‘smell’ proteins at tiny
concentrations of one part protein to one billion
parts water.
Sharks locate prey by comparing chemical
concentrations between their left and right nostrils.



I still say rubbish. It has to be detectable. If you pour food dye by the gallon into the ocean it is undetectable by any physical means 50m away until it spreads. By that time you are not there anymore!
Now consider a drop. How long does thta take to excite a shark 500m away..... IF indeed he even cares about human blood?

Bondalucci
VIC, 1579 posts
12 Feb 2010 6:06PM
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sausage said...

Oops - might have to retract my above non-scientic based statement
Sense of smell
Like all fish, sharks can ‘smell’ proteins at tiny
concentrations of one part protein to one billion
parts water.
Sharks locate prey by comparing chemical
concentrations between their left and right nostrils.



...forget the other stuff, I can't get over the fact that a shark knows its left and right!!

Mark _australia
WA, 22882 posts
12 Feb 2010 3:11PM
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Windxtasy said...

Funny that all these guys are reading a thread titled "girl's business".


"Know your enemy" - The Art Of War, Sun Tzu 6th century BC

king of the point
WA, 1836 posts
12 Feb 2010 3:34PM
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........we have a problem housten

FormulaNova
WA, 14921 posts
12 Feb 2010 3:56PM
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Windxtasy said...

Funny that all these guys are reading a thread titled "girl's business".
Sticky beaks!

As to the original question, sharks can detect minute amounts of blood/ chemicals in the water.
It is something I think about. Does it stop me sailing? No.
I probably leak more blood into the water from scraping myself on the deck when I fall off.


I'm sure I read 'a Girl Business'... someone must have edited it.

kawindsurf
VIC, 137 posts
12 Feb 2010 7:19PM
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Wahts ya number a ya single??? Babe call me, calll me

NotWal
QLD, 7428 posts
12 Feb 2010 6:37PM
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Windxtasy said...

Funny that all these guys are reading a thread titled "girl's business".
Sticky beaks!
...


It doesn't say Secret girl's business does it. Not that that would make any difference :).

I rarely survive a sailing session without a bit of bleeding. I am conscious of the possibility of attracting sharks but it doesn't bother me that much. I just try not to hang around in the same spot for too long. Of course, what I do is neither here nor there is it. Just ignore me.

fletchk
SA, 93 posts
12 Feb 2010 7:55PM
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Your not the first person to wonder this. Ive been diving a lot and can knock this one on the head right now. Ask a female diving instuctor if she has loads of sharks following her for 5 days a month i think that should give you your answer.

pepe47
WA, 1381 posts
12 Feb 2010 6:12PM
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Mark _australia said...

Forget the old myth that sharks can detect a drop of blood in a billion litres of water or whatever rot people come up with.

Think about a drop of blood in the water- the shark can't detect it until it dissolves and all the molecules spread out and a molecule reaches the shark. It would take hours for any of those molecules to make it even 100m away. Even pouring a litre in would not attract sharks immediately unless they are within a few metres.... and if you're bleeding like that go to hospital

I have heard of a study where the results showed sharks were attracted to fish blood (and other similar marine goo) but not all all to human and other primates' blood. Dunno how tru / can't be bothered googling




That's right Mark, there was a subject recently on "Mythbusters" which, to me at least, proved that sharks prefer fish blood. They also disproved the theory that peeing in the water attracts them. In fact the ammonia content is more likely to repel them.
I like both of these theories

jewelray
22 posts
12 Feb 2010 7:05PM
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glad that you have a courage to post a thread like this. I totally agree to others said about the myth on Blood that a shark can detect..

greenleader
QLD, 5283 posts
12 Feb 2010 10:30PM
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what if you f@rt while waterstarting?

grumplestiltskin
WA, 2331 posts
12 Feb 2010 8:36PM
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greenleader said...

what if you f@rt while waterstarting?


I would have thought that there was a considerable chance that the change in pressure between the inside of your @rse and the outside (post f@rt) would result in a large rush of water up the anal passage.
This could then lead to the tuning of your board to be significantly out because you would suddenly weigh a couple of kilo's more ........ IMO

lungs
QLD, 492 posts
12 Feb 2010 10:39PM
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what happened to the dog

never dog paddle back to your board

JayGirl
10 posts
12 Feb 2010 9:32PM
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Thanks for all the replies. I'm glad to hear that I probably don't need to worry. See you on the water

Bondalucci
VIC, 1579 posts
13 Feb 2010 1:45AM
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General rule of thumb:


"when the wind blows, you go sailing! ......period!"

longwinded
WA, 344 posts
12 Feb 2010 11:57PM
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Bondalucci said...

General rule of thumb:


"when the wind blows, you go sailing! ......period!"


love a pun!

whyner
NSW, 762 posts
13 Feb 2010 5:52AM
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There was this person who sent twenty different puns to his friends, with the hope that at least ten of the puns would make them laugh. No pun in ten did.

qwerty
NSW, 807 posts
13 Feb 2010 7:10AM
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whyner said...

There was this person who sent twenty different puns to his friends, with the hope that at least ten of the puns would make them laugh. No pun in ten did.



You got up at 5am to post that??
red thumbs all round.

whyner
NSW, 762 posts
13 Feb 2010 8:22AM
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qwerty said...

whyner said...

There was this person who sent twenty different puns to his friends, with the hope that at least ten of the puns would make them laugh. No pun in ten did.



You got up at 5am to post that??
red thumbs all round.



I felt that it was very important to share with everyone. I set my alarm so I wouldn't forget.

wormy
QLD, 679 posts
13 Feb 2010 7:29AM
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That time of the month, no probs, a male shark will know you are hormoanal and not go near you in fear of his life, a female shark will be sympathetic but also "give you space". A juvinile shark may go in for inquisitive look but just yell and scream at it and it will leave in a hurry wondering what the hell it did wrong.

Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
13 Feb 2010 10:18AM
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greenleader said...

what if you f@rt while waterstarting?


It's not the f@rts that you should worry about...It's the sharts that can ruin a sesh!

windykid
QLD, 368 posts
13 Feb 2010 11:06AM
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Mark _australia said...

Forget the old myth that sharks can detect a drop of blood in a billion litres of water or whatever rot people come up with.

Think about a drop of blood in the water- the shark can't detect it until it dissolves and all the molecules spread out and a molecule reaches the shark. It would take hours for any of those molecules to make it even 100m away. Even pouring a litre in would not attract sharks immediately unless they are within a few metres.... and if you're bleeding like that go to hospital

I have heard of a study where the results showed sharks were attracted to fish blood (and other similar marine goo) but not all all to human and other primates' blood. Dunno how tru / can't be bothered googling





sboardcrazy
NSW, 8094 posts
13 Feb 2010 2:52PM
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wormy said...

That time of the month, no probs, a male shark will know you are hormoanal and not go near you in fear of his life, a female shark will be sympathetic but also "give you space". A juvinile shark may go in for inquisitive look but just yell and scream at it and it will leave in a hurry wondering what the hell it did wrong.


4bz
NSW, 8 posts
13 Feb 2010 3:23PM
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Maybe it might be best if you wear a really really tight fitting wetsuit that week, so it forms a really tight seal so nothing leaks out??
So I wounder whats more of a shark attractant, peeing in your wetsuit (approx. 100 mls) or a small drop of blood?



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