Justyna Sniady and Sylvester Stallone in Screw Loose Windsurfing
Getting the pins out looked gruesome, but pins out and a screw loose she's still out there ripping. Nice one-handed backie. Is she filming them herself now because Ben misses too much?
That first forward is a killer! There's nothing worse than crashing and knowing something is broken.
I got flamed on here a few years ago for pointing out this isn't how to do loops (Robby Style Pole Vaults).. Pole-vaults forwards are deadly, there is no way to spot the landing and without spotting the landing you can't properly brace for landings.
Snapped boards, broken feet, and pinged ligaments are the result.
Everybody who does 'em should consider a change in style.
Spin Loops > Pole-vaults
barn said..
That first forward is a killer! There's nothing worse than crashing and knowing something is broken.
I got flamed on here a few years ago for pointing out this isn't how to do loops (Robby Style Pole Vaults).. Pole-vaults forwards are deadly, there is no way to spot the landing and without spotting the landing you can't properly brace for landings.
Snapped boards, broken feet, and pinged ligaments are the result.
Everybody who does 'em should consider a change in style.
Spin Loops > Pole-vaults
Apart from the pain inducing crash at the start, great action Justyna! And that Go pro harness mount is seriously smooth.
Justyna Sniady and Sylvester Stallone in Screw Loose Windsurfing
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Top video.. love her attitude to life great sense of humour..
Love the view of swimming bits from the Go Pro mount..
Yeah. Nah. I don't do them like that, er, because of, um, what Mark said. But otherwise I totally would be doing. that.
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I've been lining them up in my head and I think this season is the season. You'll know because I'll come gloat on this forum because who else is going to appreciate that I've finally done a forward? My wife? "That's nice dear. Didn't you do them years ago? Or was that a Jive?"
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barn said..
*Posted Philip Stalled video*
This forward is great, 90% of the way around, the top of the sail is the highest point of the rig, so it draws circle above Philip's head.. These are the very horizontal, technically perfect. This same technique is what he uses to get those doubles so slow and in control. He makes them look too easy, andl unfortunately less 'radical' in the eyes of a few people.
Not to single out Snaidy, but this 'Endo/pole-vault/Robby Naish' style can lead to serious injury. The problem is, you cannot look over your shoulder to spot your landing, as the water is fast coming up from behind you. Then when you eventually land, there is no way to brace yourself at the exact moment of impact, so there's a chance your body will be relaxed and vulnerable.
With a horizontal forward, you can spot your landing as it the water comes around from the side, and sheet in extra hard at the last minute, speeding up the rotation and bringing the board down to the water with control.
Polevaults are easy, all they require is to shut your eyes and sheet the back hand in. When you hear a windsurfer say 'Ahh Forwards are easy, just sheet in' they're referring to the Polevault.. You'll find less people who can reliably plane out of flat water forwards, and pull controlled spin loops off waves claim that those are easy.
robert teriitehau is still the king of real endo doubles
none of this pansy horizontal corkscrew stuff
In these days of endless go pro and drone shots (drones nearly been done to death now also)
its great to see a video with
an actual story!
to sustain some interest. Nice work Justyna!
Had to relearn my fwds over the last few years - starting to work out how to avoid pole vaults - but still tricky on the really big scarey ones.
More often than not i chicken out and go the backie.
lovin small / medium fwds with the new technique - the sideways spin feels wicked. especially when you get hit side on by a bit of Scarborough chop / sea
You should land going deep off the wind -
in fact if you just flick the rig after landing youve done a fwd jibe and are now going the other way.
I reckon big fwds should score higher than big backwards rotations as they are waaaaay scarier and quite a bit more technical to land. Backies once you get them (do enough and you will) anyone can land them all day long. They are Board friendly though!
Every one loves an Endo
Gawd those 1.5 x polevaults are scary.. The week before that sequence I'd water started out of a double using the Panzy Horizontal Corkscrew technique.. 6 months after that sequence I'd polevaulted my way into hospital and haven't done a forward in 3 years.. I may be slightly biased against polevaults..
Do what I say, not what I do!!
Here's another death endo (as reflex said, sometimes hard to avoid, I'm hardly planing here)
the man himself
tried to find the segment our of the feed your soul dvd on forwards, it starts off with a dude hitting a 8ft wave in maui hah.
Endos rule, they may be considered old school, but they look the best. If you do enough of them, you know where the landing is....
I reckon big fwds should score higher than big backwards rotations as they are waaaaay scarier and quite a bit more technical to land.
Especially very high stalled forwards.
great vid, nice to watch a journey rather than endless hard core snaphots
still think it's one of windsurfings bucket list moves, a stalled end-over forward. The height gained by the pros do these days is insane, kudos to the new school. After 20+ years of going over the handlebars I've only ever been able to do em on port tack. My fav jump by far, still love the rush when the nose goes down... As for pole vaults, approaching half a century dictates this jump is now best kept to light wind days when there are less forces involved
Hi reflex
Help me out here. How do you instigate the corkscrew instead of the pole vault? Do you just turn down wind on the face of the wave?
I think I pole vault. See below.
Hi reflex
Help me out here. How do you instigate the corkscrew instead of the pole vault? Do you just turn down wind on the face of the wave?
I think I pole vault. See below.
^You should post that video as its own topic! I've seen a windsurf video with narration before!
To initiate the spin loop, think how you steer the board into position while waterstarting.. To turn the nose downwind, you slice the sail into wind while sheeting in. For even more control, you place you back foot on the board and tuck it in.. You'll turn the board so far down wind that you'll eventually need to flip the rig..
It's the same with the spinloop, you slice the sail into wind, while tucking the back foot in. This action completely changes the alignment of the board and sail, and will initiate a good rotation.. You'll hear the tern, 'scissoring' the board down wind.
Back to the waterstart analogy, once you actually decide to pull yourself up onto the board, you send the sail up and forward, while sheeting in. This rolls you over the centreline. This action is the same as a polevault. Up and over, into an endo.
This explanation is all a bit abstract, but it's often useful to look at a problem from another perspective.
In the end, if you're doing polevaults, you really need to be getting at least 400cm of air time! Yarden Meir in the video below is a great demonstration.
and if we scissor even more, a triple forward is really easy.
Just ask, Lotowind, he can't even see the air under the board in that video.
Hi barn
Good analogy with the water start.
I'm shooting for my second forward loop in Maui tomorrow.
Does it help to turn down wind on the face of the wave to start the board in a flat rotation?
It looks like the guy in your video does this.