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Created by jp747 > 9 months ago, 22 Feb 2016
jp747
1553 posts
22 Feb 2016 3:35PM
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Changed to a new location temporarily for the next 1-2 yrs. and am dying to have a good sail on the coast which is only less than a km. away. I've been checking well (feeling) the windspeed and it averages around 7-10kts. and on really good days 12-13 which are 1 in 15days. Would you go for an RSX, Formula or high volume slalom board? am around 58kls and rising and can make a 110ltr board with a 7.2 mtr plane in flat water and around 10-11 kts of wind but that takes a lot of effort in technique.. regards

seanhogan
QLD, 3424 posts
22 Feb 2016 5:58PM
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foil

mineral1
WA, 4564 posts
22 Feb 2016 4:29PM
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jp747 said..
Changed to a new location temporarily for the next 1-2 yrs. and am dying to have a good sail on the coast which is only less than a km. away. I've been checking well (feeling) the windspeed and it averages around 7-10kts. and on really good days 12-13 which are 1 in 15days. Would you go for an RSX, Formula or high volume slalom board? am around 58kls and rising and can make a 110ltr board with a 7.2 mtr plane in flat water and around 10-11 kts of wind but that takes a lot of effort in technique.. regards


Where have you moved to Johno?

Cluffy
NSW, 414 posts
22 Feb 2016 7:44PM
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7 to 10 knots is a wider range than it sounds. In 10 knots I can plane on my SLW 90, In 7 knots I need my formula and my Evo 6 12.2 . So there's actually a bigger difference than it sounds between 7 to 10 and once you drop below 8 knots the gear required to get going grows rapidly. At 58 kg's I think something like an ezzy cheetah or lion 9.5 on a second hand super lightwind 90 and you would be motoring in 8 knots and pumping on to the plane in 7 although that guesstimate is based purely on weight and gear as I don't know your skill level. Formula planes early but takes a bit off effort to pop them where as the SLW 90 glides up onto the plane more of it's own accord due to the quite flat and gentle rocker line. Nothing against formula I'm totally addicted to it but I'm also very fond of the light to medium wind characteristics of those SLW 90's.

joe windsurf
1480 posts
22 Feb 2016 5:10PM
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in those winds i like a bigger sail, but perhaps a longboard
as Cluffy says you are lighter
but without the effort, one does tend to schlogg
the longboards glide in lighter winds
and can be taken in higher winds
in the new boards - Exocet or KONA ??
if one has the bucks - Starboard Phantoms
i use a Mistral Equipe I/One


jp747
1553 posts
22 Feb 2016 5:40PM
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Hi Mineral..just a neighboring island but it's flat no thermals, mountains, venturi's to help strengthen the wind .. this place is sweltering Hot Cebu .. the area of proposed sail has a dozen tankers and cargo ships and is a waterway for all seagoing vessels big and small doesn't matter though should be interesting to have them with you on the water

ikw777
QLD, 2995 posts
22 Feb 2016 7:52PM
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I'd get a little sailing boat and explore. Might help keep you sane.

jp747
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22 Feb 2016 6:48PM
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mineral1 said..

jp747 said..
Changed to a new location temporarily for the next 1-2 yrs. and am dying to have a good sail on the coast which is only less than a km. away. I've been checking well (feeling) the windspeed and it averages around 7-10kts. and on really good days 12-13 which are 1 in 15days. Would you go for an RSX, Formula or high volume slalom board? am around 58kls and rising and can make a 110ltr board with a 7.2 mtr plane in flat water and around 10-11 kts of wind but that takes a lot of effort in technique.. regards



Where have you moved to Johno?


next island of Cebu which happens to be so sweltering hot Mineral1 .. I have 'Googled' this place in vain and no inkling of a homo sapien doing any windsurfing or kiting.. It's supposed to be the 'queen city of the south' a bit cosmo but what are the people doing here besides diving off 5 star resorts?!?


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Cluffy said..

7 to 10 knots is a wider range than it sounds. In 10 knots I can plane on my SLW 90, In 7 knots I need my formula and my Evo 6 12.2 . So there's actually a bigger difference than it sounds between 7 to 10 and once you drop below 8 knots the gear required to get going grows rapidly. At 58 kg's I think something like an ezzy cheetah or lion 9.5 on a second hand super lightwind 90 and you would be motoring in 8 knots and pumping on to the plane in 7 although that guesstimate is based purely on weight and gear as I don't know your skill level. Formula planes early but takes a bit off effort to pop them where as the SLW 90 glides up onto the plane more of it's own accord due to the quite flat and gentle rocker line. Nothing against formula I'm totally addicted to it but I'm also very fond of the light to medium wind characteristics of those SLW 90's.



true Cluffy you drop 1-2 kts and a formula will plow water for someone to SUP off from .. am not familiar with an RSX I think it is 'tailor' made for 9-10mtr sails and weights 30 tons? .. seems like
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ikw777 said..
I'd get a little sailing boat and explore. Might help keep you sane.


is a good option but I don't have diamonds to pawn at the moment.. so am 'freaking' out doing the same swimming and running and freediving every single week unless someone tricks me on to having LSD in front of an aquarium ..

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joe windsurf said..
in those winds i like a bigger sail, but perhaps a longboard
as Cluffy says you are lighter
but without the effort, one does tend to schlogg
the longboards glide in lighter winds
and can be taken in higher winds
in the new boards - Exocet or KONA ??
if one has the bucks - Starboard Phantoms
i use a Mistral Equipe I/One




longboarding seems logical but I don't think there is anyone that I know of who's willing to let go of a keepsake .. if someone is familiar with a PanAm Mistral let me know how it performs because a dear friend still has one and can lend it but need to know how to pair it with a sail and skeg .. regards


joe windsurf
1480 posts
22 Feb 2016 7:02PM
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Mistral PanAm raceboard from around 2000-2003
375 x 66 and about 260 liters
like an Equipe II !!!!
GO FOR IT !!!

jp747
1553 posts
23 Feb 2016 9:19AM
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joe windsurf said..
Mistral PanAm raceboard from around 2000-2003
375 x 66 and about 260 liters
like an Equipe II !!!!
GO FOR IT !!!



sweet! can you give me an idea if they change the length of the fin when the sail increases in size? say an 8.4 which I might be able to procure 2nd hand

Tardy
5042 posts
23 Feb 2016 4:51PM
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A friend of mine has a 2000 Equipe ..he uses the same 38 fin pointer.that came with the board with all sails .he's 62 kg has a 7.4 & 8.0 no cam.
he planes in seems like nothing .. You could go to a 40 ..but it points so good due to the sharp rails and length of the board.
It a big mother.but made for light wind .the mistral escape would be another good one .i have one collecting dust .

Man0verBoard
WA, 629 posts
23 Feb 2016 6:05PM
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How sweet does that sail look!

joe windsurf
1480 posts
23 Feb 2016 6:09PM
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windsurfraceboard.blogspot.com/p/boards.html
seems to be Powerbox coming with a 42 cm fin
if it is powerbox , you can try lots of options !!
my Mistral Equipe I is US/Euro fin box and no more than 30 cm is recommended
works fine even with sails in the 8.x m² sail range ...

powersloshin
NSW, 1700 posts
24 Feb 2016 6:42AM
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I learned on a Mistral 3.5 metres long, the glide in low wind is great, but the size and weight of the board makes it a lot more challenging for storage and transportation. I have a formula now for low wind.

Beaglebuddy
1595 posts
24 Feb 2016 6:16AM
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If you are not planing and just gliding fast on the longboard the fin doesn't matter much especially if you are railing and/or using the daggerboard.

jp747
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24 Feb 2016 5:59PM
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Beaglebuddy said..
If you are not planing and just gliding fast on the longboard the fin doesn't matter much especially if you are railing and/or using the daggerboard.


isn't railing fun when you can see the skeg from above as the board tilts to windward? miss that



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