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Created by JonesySail > 9 months ago, 14 Oct 2016
Magic Ride
719 posts
18 Oct 2016 2:18PM
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Just curious, when you say the board is equal to your weight plus 15 liters, is the 15 liters accounting for the weight of the sail, mast, boom and mast extention?

albers
NSW, 1737 posts
18 Oct 2016 5:33PM
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Have been sailing for quite a while now, and have always only ever had one board at a time.

I will therefore only be able to sail in planing conditions, anywhere from 15 knots to an upper limit of around 40 knots (a white knuckle session).

Over time, the combination of improved sailing skill and board technology development, has meant that my successive boards get smaller every time I needed to replace one.

Progression has been from around 95L to my current board which is 77L in volume (2012 Starboard Quad IQ).

Very impressed with this last board - no "adjustment sailing period" from the previous board.




stehsegler
WA, 3472 posts
18 Oct 2016 2:41PM
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Vince68 said..
What IS the average weight of R1DER?


Looking at the majority of windsurf board companies they seem to think 75kg is average and 85kg is heavy.

R1DER
WA, 1461 posts
18 Oct 2016 5:23PM
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Vince68 said...
What IS the average weight of R1DER?



This is a very personal question, shouldn't we go out on a date first? Maybe get to know each other.

russh
SA, 3025 posts
18 Oct 2016 8:21PM
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My 100l OES thruster has turned out to be a great all rounder from 15 - 30+ knts - I've been surprised at how versatile this one is and how well it wave sails (Photos Courtesy of Dave Lane) 2 x12.5 Mini Epic Black Project and a 20 or 22 MUF x wave







Relic
TAS, 837 posts
19 Oct 2016 9:14AM
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JonesySail said..
Nice board 'E/Panda'..rockets optional?! That's one of the models I had in mind, the sail/rig gear reduction is also an added bonus!

Relic, You dont mind the extra volume when its supper windy? Looks heaps windy in your pic's, you make it look good!

'Lungs' tongue in cheak call for 20-30Knts and me bagging his optimism paid off yesterday when we were blessed with 20-30knts, averaging 25+
put in a smaller centre fin in my 93ltr to slow and loosen it up, 5.2m was an awesome session.
Was thinking to self 'how good is it riding this here 93ltr wave board in these conditions" Loose, ample control, got some little onshore wave rides, some back slapping decent height jumps...great session.

Struggling to imagine controlling a 100lts board in those conditions, (maybe only as I never have really given a 100ltr multi fin a go) I wouldn't have taken my FR 100ltr out in it, just too rough waves and windy for it....then as it often does the the storm came..wind started getting sketchy and I was thinking how good would 100ltr be now!! So its good to see and hear some first hand experience at using the bigger board in stronger wind. Constant 25+ is our 'rare' conditions in SE Qld, 15-25 with the occasional squirt +25 is more the norm.

'Peter' yes if i was just sailing river/lake would be dead easy one board, even one sail would cover me 90% of the time locally, i had that same board also, really liked it, was a great flat water blaster and easy to control when it got a bit bumpy...not an ocean going vessel though!

looks like I need to test ride a multi fin 100,


The extra volume on this particular FSW is manageable up to 30Kn. The positive is it allows a smaller sail which unloads things in high wind.
I was 95 kg when I got the board but I've shrunk to 85 kg. Even with the reduced load it is still user friendly. The result is wind range is further widened.
The fins play a big part in performance and behaviour. Big single in light flat lighter conditions large sides and small trailer in high winds. I think the trailers create drag and slow the board in high winds such as the picture you mention. If the board is over finned it wants to sail too high into the wind and is hard to get off the wind (Reach) And gets too quick resulting in ugly catapults.
I don't make the board look good...It makes me look good. It has really played a big part in learning "New Skool" technique for me after not sailing for over 20 years.

John340
QLD, 3137 posts
19 Oct 2016 8:56AM
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I'm mainly a GPS sailor, but at my local, in 18+kts, when the tide is high and the water is rough, I bump and jump on my Kode 103 and Severne Gator 6.0. I've used this combo in 18 to 30 kts.

JonesySail
QLD, 1084 posts
19 Oct 2016 3:08PM
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Thanks for all the feedback, especially fin set ups, and control in stronger winds, sounds like it's a confirmed project for this summer,!



Obelix
WA, 1097 posts
19 Oct 2016 1:57PM
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Magic Ride said..
Just curious, when you say the board is equal to your weight plus 15 liters, is the 15 liters accounting for the weight of the sail, mast, boom and mast extention?




It's only a rough rule of thumb (for me) I'm 103kg and I mostly sail my 118 L board.

When you add all other stuff it's a sinker - but is easy to get going in light winds.
For me it works with 6 to 8,5m sails on 17 to 25 knots.

Faff
VIC, 1191 posts
20 Oct 2016 6:06PM
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When people say "great in chop", one should remember that one man's "chop" is another man's flat water. Just sayin.



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