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Windsurfing trailers?

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Created by Pointman > 9 months ago, 28 Sep 2007
Pointman
WA, 435 posts
28 Sep 2007 9:26PM
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Well I think it's time.

I've accumulated 3 boards, a mini-mal, 4 masts, 3 booms and half a dozen sails. I'm either gonna have to leave the family at home or get myself a trailer to cart all my kit around.

Any suggestions on where, or from whom, I should procure one in Perth

Cheers
Pointman

Mark _australia
WA, 22348 posts
29 Sep 2007 1:42AM
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Build one yourself! Seriously not hard. Use 1" square ally, you can get plastic joiners to join the square tube together straight or 3 way etc. You can make a frame to go on a 6x4 trailer with just a hacksaw and the plastic joiners, easier than lego.

For shelves (with the ally crosswise obviously) use the 8mm (?) 5 ply. Makes it easier to slide sails etc in.


Cover the whole thing with a type of sheetmetal called "signwhite" it is 0.8mm, what signmakers use. Larger signmakers will sell u used stuff pretty cheap. If you attach it to your frame with a bead of silicone all the way around and a pop rivet every foot or so it will be strong and waterproof.

puffin
235 posts
29 Sep 2007 11:07AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Mark _australia

Build one yourself!




Yes. You'll suit your needs best if you design for yourself. Here is a link to a page with a collection of links and discussions about trailer design:
http://windsurf.hansanderson.com/stow.html

There are van links there as well.

kato
VIC, 3398 posts
29 Sep 2007 6:32PM
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Great link Puffin. I wish I,d known about all this before I started mine. Will post some photos.

MintoxGT
WA, 975 posts
30 Sep 2007 6:47PM
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Great links,

Check this windsurfing van.

www.steynfamily.com/ultimate_windsurfing_van_02.htm

Looks like a 5 star room, you can park and enjoy any view you choose.

Cheers GT

Pointman
WA, 435 posts
2 Oct 2007 10:01AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Mark _australia

Build one yourself!



Good call Mark!

You know for an engineer I'm actually not very hands on!

I tend to prefer paying the experts to do stuff for me.

But what you've described sounds pretty easy. I was down Bunnings yesterday and saw the 1" ally square sections. Didn't see any plastic joiners though...do you know a brand name I can track down?

And my mother-in-laws got an old 6 x 4 box trailer I can convert.

Sounds like a good project...I'll post some pix on here when I get started!

And thanks for the links Puffin. Looks like the crew over there in Canda and the States take their transportation pretty seriously...some very nice vans & trailers on display.

Gestalt
QLD, 14393 posts
2 Oct 2007 1:10PM
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excelent product to build a trailer is the aluminium clad insulated panels.

you can mitre out the back and folded it or cut to lengths and use aluminuim extruded joiners. it has far better bracing capacity then .8mm and can act as the structural too so you will only need a few angles or box sections as strengthening. comes in 50mm thick up to 200mm thick.

it will also protect your gear from the heat and will make an excellent beer fridge trailer.

just by some aluminium extrusions to rivet it all tegether etc.

http://www.halesandlunn.com.au/project.htm

kato
VIC, 3398 posts
2 Oct 2007 9:39PM
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Here,s mine.Its the second one I,ve built.Fits 4 boards and all the junk.Total cost about $1000,saves rusting out cars with wet gear.
www.seabreeze.com.au/gallery/gallery.asp?imageid=6315
www.seabreeze.com.au/gallery/gallery.asp?imageid=6316
www.seabreeze.com.au/gallery/gallery.asp?imageid=6317

rustbucket
NSW, 290 posts
2 Oct 2007 10:31PM
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.those fiberglass trailers are great...but look at the weight...a lot of weight for a trailer...minimum weight they state [750kg] is like towing a car trailer with a googomobil on it or a small caravan.
i am assuming the gross weight refers to the trailers total weight and not its legal maximum towing weight of load and trailer?

Problem is fiberglass can be a heavy solution..ie it needs to be very thick to support a long flat section.
...of coarse you can corrugate it to increase strength but that just increases surface area and adds more weight [catch 22].
those old fiberglass caravans were not necessarily lightweight.

ironically a small rounded car body..ie goggomobil can be very light,,,the strength is in the shape per thickness.[I know as I own many fiberglass cars.]
When a large flat area is needed to have even just the strength to stop it flexing in the wind the thickness must be greater and thus the weight goes up
If you are intending on doing long drives you dont want to feel you are towing the weight of a caravan including the bulk of one.
The ideal weight in NSW for example is under 250 kg...cheap $50 rego and no brakes needed.
Or making a removable box on an existing trailer so as to not go over the cheap rego/weight.

Besides 250kg plus gear is an easy tow..I used to tow a camping trailer of 250kg behind my 1955 Morris Minor Panel van with a 950 cc motor.
ideally with a modern car I find over 450 kg a real pain in the ...
so ideally I would aim for a trailer weight of 250kg and whatever the weight is of gear.

the options offered by posters above in making your own trailer makes good economic sense but more importantly weight criteria.

Wineman
NSW, 1412 posts
2 Oct 2007 10:36PM
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quote:
Originally posted by rustbucket
..I used to tow a camping trailer of 250kg behind my 1955 Morris Minor Panel van with a 950 cc motor.



Hmmmmm....that was why they upgraded the Pacific Highway

rustbucket
NSW, 290 posts
2 Oct 2007 10:47PM
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no thats why I upgraded the morris minor.

mineral1
WA, 4564 posts
2 Oct 2007 9:59PM
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Had this from last year some time.
ozmac.com/index.php

Maybe some help for those contemplating a build program.
Lucky for me, I have some of the gear Gestalt indicated (panels)
We have just installed a 10m W by 8m H by 20m long spray booth and a few panels left over, so just enough for windsurfing trailer.
No idea what it will look like yet, need one of my team to draw up a plan for me
Mineral

MintoxGT
WA, 975 posts
2 Oct 2007 11:02PM
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quote:
Originally posted by mineral1

Had this from last year some time.
ozmac.com/index.php

Maybe some help for those contemplating a build program.
Lucky for me, I have some of the gear Gestalt indicated (panels)
We have just installed a 10m W by 8m H by 20m long spray booth and a few panels left over, so just enough for windsurfing trailer.
No idea what it will look like yet, need one of my team to draw up a plan for me
Mineral



Another nice trailer indeed, I have been considering this option as I am space poor, I doubt it will happen, nice link Mino.

Cheers GT

WINDY MILLER
WA, 3183 posts
3 Oct 2007 8:58AM
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yeah i think i need to do the same Greg......

www.seabreeze.com.au/gallery/gallery.asp?imageid=6327

where am i supposed to put the wife, 2 dogs oh and a baby chair ???

let me know how u go, hmmm noice stoney have u christened her yet?

Pointman
WA, 435 posts
3 Oct 2007 9:34AM
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quote:
Originally posted by WINDY MILLER



let me know how u go, hmmm noice stoney have u christened her yet?



Not yet. Hopefully Friday...forecast looks promising.

Arlo
SA, 139 posts
3 Oct 2007 2:15PM
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quote:
Originally posted by rustbucket

.those fiberglass trailers are great...but look at the weight...a lot of weight for a trailer...minimum weight they state [750kg] is like towing a car trailer with a googomobil on it or a small caravan.
i am assuming the gross weight refers to the trailers total weight and not its legal maximum towing weight of load and trailer?



The gross weight of 750kg is the max weight of trailer and load; I think that the weight of mine is about 350kg.

Wayne
WA, 123 posts
10 Oct 2007 8:40AM
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Don't buy your materials from Bunnings.
Get it from a steel merchant like Midalia or One Steel.
You'll get a 6m length for the same price as a 2m length from Bunnies.
As long as you can move 6m lengths, it's a very cheap way.
I have a Landcruiser and i bolt a support to the roo bar so 6m fits on the roof perfectly.
If you've only got a Morris then it'll be tricky.

divaldo
SA, 2878 posts
10 Oct 2007 10:51AM
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I am going to create a 'lid' with board holder for my 6x4 trailer, I have looked all week at trailer websites, not too much around off the shelf.

The only concern I have is that the trailer wont be big enough for sails, also what am I going to do with masts, was thinking of a big tube, like plumbers 100mm PVC bolted to the lid.

As Point man has mentioned, he has too much gear to move around, we are in the same boat! 4 boards, three masts, 8 sails, two booms, wetsuits, kids bike, scooter, dog, wife, child plus any tag alongs for learning this summer, gonna need more room in car.

Will keep you all posted

eckas
NSW, 323 posts
15 Oct 2007 3:22PM
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Here's my baby. It just survived the 2000km round trip from Wollongong to the Gold Coast. The box drops-in, lifts-out of a std 6 x 4 box trailer. I just need to weld up a frame to be able to do this single-handed. It is just on 3m long thanks to the taper all the way up the drawbar, and 1140mm wide. (However this means I can't open the rear tailgate on the car with the trailer attached - not a problem if you have a sedan). Cost me about $120 for downgrade tubing from metaland, $120 for the corrugated cladding, another $100 in welding rods, hinges, etc. Best thing I did was make the internal cross-rack removable - all the gear and racks come out to make an awesome trailer for moving house, moving rubbish etc.
Eckas

www.seabreeze.com.au/gallery/gallery.asp?imageid=3552&text=eckas

aus301
QLD, 2039 posts
15 Oct 2007 8:23PM
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I like the idea of being able to remove the box Eckas, well done.

Personally I'm not a fan of trailers (I have owned one in the past). My issue isn't so much with the trailer but the fact that so many people that own them take up two parking spots at venues that are often strapped for parking in the first place.

Not saying anyone here would do that...but, think a little bit courteous if you have a trailer, park it and move your car elsewhere to give other sailors a place to park.

Sorry off topic a little, stepping off soap box now

Mark _australia
WA, 22348 posts
15 Oct 2007 7:37PM
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No very very valid point. Never thought of it but most places we sail have small carparks and / or are where lots of normal people go.
WA guys, think Dutchies in a 25kn seabreeze on a Saturday in December. Try and park near that one!



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