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Poo over hooning in the Pond

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Created by fangman > 9 months ago, 6 Jul 2015
stroppo
WA, 728 posts
9 Jul 2015 6:51PM
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Just read the fb link classic I can just see the head lines "Naked birds Scare Naked Birds" Now thats some funny sh#t

firiebob
WA, 3145 posts
9 Jul 2015 7:44PM
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stroppo said..
Just read the fb link classic I can just see the head lines "Naked birds Scare Naked Birds" Now thats some funny sh#t


Here's an idea Big Fella, Naked Strop scares Naked Birds scaring Naked Birds, now that's some serious funny sh#t

whippingboy
WA, 1104 posts
10 Jul 2015 12:44PM
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LMFAO

I suggest Mandurah Mob be renamed "The Abominable Hoons"

sausage
QLD, 4873 posts
10 Jul 2015 3:06PM
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whippingboy said...
LMFAO

I suggest Mandurah Mob be renamed "The Abominable Hoons"


Shouldn't that be "abominable slowmen"

decrepit
WA, 12054 posts
10 Jul 2015 2:17PM
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Well just on a point of order, I must point out that MM sailors were less than half the total number in there. And the main subject of the pics was a CST member.
So if you're going to rename anybody it should be Coastal Speed Team. I suggest something like The Abomoes.
But to be fair, Pinnas were also in there, so we could have Pinnaboms, manaboms and coastaboms

Lbracer
SA, 25 posts
10 Jul 2015 4:01PM
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From the photos it would appear that Hot Sails are the sail of choice for Hooning Swan killers.
Any chance of some of the sailors teaming up with local authorities to assist in maintaining the area or marking out dedicated walk ways etc, try to get a good news story.

Stuthepirate
SA, 3589 posts
10 Jul 2015 4:54PM
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I can't believe she's trampling all over that fragile flora and ecosystem like that.

fangman
WA, 1369 posts
10 Jul 2015 3:39PM
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sausage said..

whippingboy said...
LMFAO

I suggest Mandurah Mob be renamed "The Abominable Hoons"



Shouldn't that be "abominable slowmen"


OOOH that burns Sausageman!!

Bender
WA, 2223 posts
10 Jul 2015 3:40PM
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fangman said..

sausage said..


whippingboy said...
LMFAO

I suggest Mandurah Mob be renamed "The Abominable Hoons"




Shouldn't that be "abominable slowmen"



OOOH that burns Sausageman!!


That should be "abominable old fat man-breasted slowmen"

elmo
WA, 8716 posts
10 Jul 2015 3:54PM
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So quickly we fall out of fashion, we've been overtaken by hovercraft

www.facebook.com/EyesOnTheWaterPeel/photos/a.1422783411346161.1073741828.1413586345599201/1491226044501897/?type=1&theater

decrepit
WA, 12054 posts
10 Jul 2015 5:24PM
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Lbracer said..
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Any chance of some of the sailors teaming up with local authorities to assist in maintaining the area or marking out dedicated walk ways etc, try to get a good news story.


The Mandurah Council contacted me today, they're going to help us work out a strategy, but I doubt any of the local papers are interested in publishing that sort of story.

kato
VIC, 3381 posts
11 Jul 2015 3:28PM
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Sounds like some positive results despite the local nutters attempts

WazzaYotty
QLD, 302 posts
11 Jul 2015 6:42PM
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I wouldn't say that all of us in the Mandurah Mob are nutters. OK, granted, some are close to the edge but we are, on the whole, improving immensely thanks to careful medication.

kato
VIC, 3381 posts
11 Jul 2015 7:19PM
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WazzaYotty said...
I wouldn't say that all of us in the Mandurah Mob are nutters. OK, granted, some are close to the edge but we are, on the whole, improving immensely thanks to careful medication.

Meant ,the bird nutters but you lot need some help too

WazzaYotty
QLD, 302 posts
11 Jul 2015 8:17PM
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Every day we're getting a little bit better

Subsonic
WA, 3055 posts
15 Jul 2015 9:58PM
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elmo said...
You might want to not respond to much as the newspaper may give it legs and then have them print it which will then reach a lot more people than just online.

This is the originating face book page

www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1607402049538231&set=o.1413586345599201&type=1


She's got her sister in on the act now. Seeing this, knowing all too well that no windsurfer would purposely set out to harm the environment, let alone chase down wildlife just makes my blood boil.

Lessons indeed.

elmo
WA, 8716 posts
15 Jul 2015 10:54PM
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We know that, unfortunately they have come to realize that we (collectively speaking) have done nothing illegal so they can only slag us of.

Fortunately we've always been in communications with the relevant authorities and are currently being proactive still working out guidelines.

Unfortunately, the Paddler's and bird watchers are extremely militant and are not shy in spreading a liberal amount hysteria and bulls1t around (and here we thought they were trying to reduce nutrient runoff), we should feel lucky that ANY watercraft not using a paddle is allowed on the 300km² of Peel inlet.

No doubt they have seen the comments on the news article and are muttering like Bominator when someone contradicts him.

shockwave
NSW, 8 posts
16 Jul 2015 11:20PM
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****

John340
QLD, 3101 posts
17 Jul 2015 2:15PM
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An interesting recent post from Mr Lester on his Facebook page, expressing frustration at not getting any response from the Relevant Authorities. I wonder if this is in relation to the recent events on the Pond.

www.facebook.com/craig.lester.311/posts/1615529528725483?pnref=story#

decrepit
WA, 12054 posts
17 Jul 2015 4:51PM
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John340 said..
An interesting recent post from Mr Lester on his Facebook page, expressing frustration at not getting any response from the Relevant Authorities. I wonder if this is in relation to the recent events on the Pond.

www.facebook.com/craig.lester.311/posts/1615529528725483?pnref=story#


I haven't had much response either, neither calm or the two scientists that the council lady referred me onto have got back to me.
I've managed to acquire Craig's phone number, I'll give him a ring tomorrow, and see if we can't get some sort of sense happening, there's absolutely no need for a birdy/windsurfer war.

WazzaYotty
QLD, 302 posts
17 Jul 2015 7:28PM
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decrepit said..

John340 said..
An interesting recent post from Mr Lester on his Facebook page, expressing frustration at not getting any response from the Relevant Authorities. I wonder if this is in relation to the recent events on the Pond.

www.facebook.com/craig.lester.311/posts/1615529528725483?pnref=story#



I haven't had much response either, neither calm or the two scientists that the council lady referred me onto have got back to me.
I've managed to acquire Craig's phone number, I'll give him a ring tomorrow, and see if we can't get some sort of sense happening, there's absolutely no need for a birdy/windsurfer war.


Mr Lester may well be feeling disgruntled because whoever he has written to hasn't immediately dropped everything else that he or she is being paid to do. This impatience is often a symptom of a feeling of self-importance and of having delusions of grandeur. The poor employee can't win.......if he or she does reply immediately to Mr Lester then any existing tasks won't be completed on schedule and the employee will be pilloried for inefficiency.
Staff receiving Mr Lester's letter may well have decided to pass it on up the line to a higher pay-grade......they won't want to get harangued....they've already got enough on their plate!!!
The public insinuations on his Facebook page, by both himself and others, that the "relevant authorities " are both uncaring and purely motivated by money are quite outrageous. Indeed, were those comments to have been made about Mr Lester and the commentators on his Facebook page I am sure they would be most offended.

John340
QLD, 3101 posts
17 Jul 2015 10:33PM
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Ah the smugness of the righteous who think they are saving the world from the uncaring masses. They see the world only from their narrow point of view.

stroppo
WA, 728 posts
17 Jul 2015 8:37PM
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Nicely put Jamie I cant wait to meet these people they might see a big bird in there binoculars the one from my middle finger!

BSN101
WA, 2282 posts
18 Jul 2015 10:06AM
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I love how they tagged and "liked" the photos of the sailors the turn around and bag the event.
Amusing play on words and actions. It's the little things

decrepit
WA, 12054 posts
18 Jul 2015 12:22PM
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Well I've had a nice constructive chat with Craig Lester, he's certainly no ogre, just a guy who's been retrieving sick and broken birds from the estuary, that have been run over by jet skis and the like. His negative reaction to Joanne's photos and her description of us running birds over is completely understandable.

He still thinks it's inappropriate for us to be in there, (the canoe club have agreed not to go in there) but he's prepared to live in the real world, and help us minimise any negative impact we may have on the environment.

As far as the Samphire goes, walking thru it can create trails which are then eaten out by hide tide storm surges, causing a loss of habitat. So it's probably better if we walk our rigs along the channel.

In the conditions we sail in there, birds especially swans are in there for the same reason, protection from the rough water.
Swans are in there to feed, they're grazing on all that bottom weed.
So if there is a flock in the way, sail through them as gently as possible so they cam move out the way without panicking, hopefully they'll move to a part of the lagoon we aren't using, if so do as little as possible to disturb them again.

I've invited Craig to join this discussion, please don't bite his head off, he didn't bite mine off.

WazzaYotty
QLD, 302 posts
18 Jul 2015 3:43PM
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Congratulations, Mike, for defusing the situation. We are lucky to have you as our team Captain and you have just given us a captain's innings.
Many thanks!

tobyr
WA, 69 posts
18 Jul 2015 4:17PM
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Nice Mike.
Captain's innings indeed.

mkseven
QLD, 2314 posts
19 Jul 2015 2:44PM
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Good going decrept & Craig, it's good for both sides to be able to put across a perspective. At the end of the day both sides have some merit in their words & actions, and yeah we should even refrain from shallow or generalising comments as I did. I dunno bout you west aussie folks but I dont know too many windsurfers who dont respect & appreciate nature & attempt to leave as small a footprint as possible. If I saw a windsurfer sail into a flock of birds or as alleged I would feel exactly the same as the bird watchers, but I just cant see guys doing that. A jumping mullet hurts enough at pace so I wouldnt like to collide with a feathered friend either.

Sometimes excluding those that may care is not such a good outcome, ive also found that birds dont tend to be put off by windsurfing, & if there are low impact users such as us, canoes, sups etc on the water operating at a respectable distance there is higher chance of seeing/finding injured wildlife & also gives a deterrent to the stink boaters & vandals that shouldnt be there.

But it sounds like a bit of a dangerous spot, with those naked bird watchers frolicking about out there id get distracted & crash

terminal
1421 posts
19 Jul 2015 5:08PM
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It might be worth checking if sailing gradually upwind at slower speed to the speed spot will result in the birds just flying upwind to the water upwind of the grass shore and settling there. It's a 20 second flight for them. They do seem to prefer to stay upwind of moving things they want to keep some space from. That might avoid actually sailing in between them. The moment you leave they will be back down to their preferred spot, which tends to indicate that the experience hasn't affected them much at all.

elmo
WA, 8716 posts
19 Jul 2015 6:19PM
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We had a good chat with Craig this morning who is not a bad bloke and got a lot more information about the why's and wherefore's of what the issues are which are quite serious as there are some severely endangered species impacted by ours (and others) behaviors.

The seriously critical part is to STAY OUT of the Samphire grass as this is the breeding area for the endangered species, it should also be noted that the same area also has a nice population of Tiger snakes which have their wonderful cheerful disposition all year round and nobody wants to mess with one of those buggers.

There'll be more information posted soon.

Huge thanks to Decrep who started the discussions with Craig, nice work there Mike



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