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Created by HaydenM > 9 months ago, 18 Nov 2016
HaydenM
NSW, 140 posts
18 Nov 2016 11:05PM
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when do they start and where is it good too sail

tomp
NSW, 688 posts
19 Nov 2016 5:10PM
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September - March generally. 100's of places to sail, depends on what type of sailing and what conditions you want.

Illawarra area regarded as more reliable for NE seabreezes in summer months but plenty of other great areas such as
Port Stephens, mid-north Coast, Ballina area...

MrSpinout
NSW, 106 posts
19 Nov 2016 8:37PM
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I was wondering the same about Gerrora... somehow there hasn't been anything on the weekends? I just bought a 94l quad to get some wave experience and the wind forecast at the weekends hasnt been looking great :(

HaydenM
NSW, 140 posts
19 Nov 2016 10:15PM
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yeah sailed illlawarra a few times now got a weedy ,,,great for about an hour then i start doing stupid things like full tilt jumps of 3" of chop

Adriano
11206 posts
21 Nov 2016 1:45PM
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Jervis Bay usually has the best sea breezes anywhere on the east coast. Very regular, can blow for three days straight and through the night and it's very consistent.

25-35 knots is regular in the summer starting now and up to 45 knots is possible.

www.windguru.cz/354255

Mr Milk
NSW, 2990 posts
21 Nov 2016 10:57PM
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Where in Jervis Bay do you get regular 25-35 knots? Point Perpendicular lighthouse?
Buggered if I know why you would be looking at a Czech site(windguru.cz) for NSW weather.

If you are looking at NE, then Huskisson is the only good launch site and it is on the western side of the bay. Wind strength is similar to Kyeemagh on Botany Bay, but the chop is 3 times bigger.

keef
NSW, 2016 posts
21 Nov 2016 11:05PM
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Wind strength is similar to Kyeemagh on Botany Bay, but the chop is 3 times bigger.

Adriano
11206 posts
22 Nov 2016 5:11AM
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Mr Milk said..
Where in Jervis Bay do you get regular 25-35 knots? Point Perpendicular lighthouse?
Buggered if I know why you would be looking at a Czech site(windguru.cz) for NSW weather.

If you are looking at NE, then Huskisson is the only good launch site and it is on the western side of the bay. Wind strength is similar to Kyeemagh on Botany Bay, but the chop is 3 times bigger.


With all due respect, I think you are wrong and it sounds like you have another agenda. Shame.

I've windsurfed there since 1987 and my parents live there. I know the place inside out. I've sailed at Huskisson in 25-35 knots with a 4.2 and sinker - many times. These days, I like to get maxed out on a 5.0 Koncept and slalom board. Maxed out on a 5.0 is bloody windy. I've done 30knot nautical miles - in metre high chop. It's a great place to sail.

I've sailed right across the bay, many times - to Calala Bay, to Honeymoon Bay and to Murray's Beach.

The wind is more regular, stronger, lasts longer and blows right through the night on a two to three day wind cycle - something I think doesn't happen anywhere else on the east coast.

I love the chop. You can pick it from a distance because of the smooth rolling action of the white horses. When it's 30knots+, the faces can be over 1.5m high.

I've also sailed Kyeemagh, scores of times. I've even raced there. It doesn't even come close to Jervis Bay for fun, wind and water clarity. Just the way it is.

As for looking at a Czeck site for NSW weather, you make it sound like I am advocating you use only Windguru. It's just an example using GFS. There are plenty of GFS websites. I read all the relevant weather sites and I use local knowledge when formulating an opinion about where to sail.

One thing is for sure, if I had the option of sailing at Kyeemagh or Jervis Bay, I would pick Jervis each and every time.

This is a vid I took at about 11AM one typical NE day. It was only 22-25knots at this point and I rigged a 5.0 Koncept. It picked up another 5 knots by noon.

keef
NSW, 2016 posts
22 Nov 2016 8:37AM
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Mr Milk said..

If you are looking at NE, then Huskisson is the only good launch site and it is on the western side of the bay.


well said Ado are you coming up for the nsw titles on the 9th & 10th of Dec,

Mr Milk you can launch at callala bay in a n/e and less chop than husky, nice rigging area at the sailing club

Mr Milk
NSW, 2990 posts
22 Nov 2016 8:44AM
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Callala is in a wind shadow for about 200m out in a NE. Much better in SW.

So where does windguru get its data from?

keef
NSW, 2016 posts
22 Nov 2016 8:48AM
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southerly calla bay 20 to 25nts



same day behind the reef

powersloshin
NSW, 1684 posts
22 Nov 2016 8:51AM
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Yes I have witnessed the NEs in Jervis bay they are vicious and you need good skills and stamina to sail there, not a place for beginners or intermediates. Callala Bay is a safer option, you can go as far as you feel safe, there is no wind shadow. Adriano did not mention the dolphins and also the sharks...
Otherwise go to Sanctuary point nextdoors, more suited to the average sailor.

keef
NSW, 2016 posts
22 Nov 2016 9:05AM
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Mr Milk said..
Callala is in a wind shadow for about 200m out in a NE. Much better in SW.

So where does windguru get its data from?


I lived at Callala bay for 17 years 80's&90's, the n/e is onsure and the wind is lifting to get over the headland so creates a void, the boats are a bigger problem
there is a wind shadow in a southerly and you need to swim your board out at high tide , s/w is even worse as the wind is behind the headland
i'm not sure where wind guru gets its information but there are heaps of other weather station that will give you the same forecast

keef
NSW, 2016 posts
22 Nov 2016 9:12AM
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Otherwise go to Sanctuary point nextdoors, more suited to the average sailor.


George sad news ,windsurfing is not allowed with in 250mt of the shore line and boat ramp , they have up graded the boat launching ramp to two ramps and provided more parking space for the boat trailers

Mr Milk
NSW, 2990 posts
22 Nov 2016 9:18AM
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keef said..

Mr Milk said..
Callala is in a wind shadow for about 200m out in a NE. Much better in SW.

So where does windguru get its data from?



I lived at Callala bay for 17 years 80's&90's, the n/e is onsure and the wind is lifting to get over the headland so creates a void, the boats are a bigger problem
there is a wind shadow in a southerly and you need to swim your board out at high tide , s/w is even worse as the wind is behind the headland
i'm not sure where wind guru gets its information but there are heaps of other weather station that will give you the same forecast


I guess I'm really talking about Callala beach.

DavMen
NSW, 1499 posts
22 Nov 2016 11:14AM
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powersloshin said..

Otherwise go to Sanctuary point nextdoors, more suited to the average sailor.



George sad news ,windsurfing is not allowed with in 250mt of the shore line and boat ramp , they have up graded the boat launching ramp to two ramps and provided more parking space for the boat trailers


Had a feeling this would happen back when the SP boat ramp upgrade plans was first posted on Seabreeze and posted my thoughts about it.

Complain to the local council and local MP's etc. Doesn't seem fair that one recreational activity is sacrificed for the benefit of another.

If this was not spelt out in the original submission plans where the public get to voice their objections you have a strong case.


keef
NSW, 2016 posts
22 Nov 2016 12:29PM
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hey Dave my post is a load of horse s**t sailing is on for all but keep it to your self , it looks like the upgrade is targeted on the boat community without a lot of parking left for windsurfing , hope to see you down here it's worth the trip

Ian K
WA, 4048 posts
22 Nov 2016 9:53AM
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HaydenM said..
when do they start and where is it good too sail



Started 2 months ago. They all have their day. Sometimes it's blowing on one beach and next to nothing 3km north. Sometimes, like right now it blows in Lake Illawarra and not on the coast? You could go to Kanahooka right now or hope for a coastal sail later on.





holfuy.com/en/data/366

On a good day there's no place better than Sandon Point for a blast in the ocean. If no wind at Sandon you can try Corrimal. It's more often windy at Gerroa but occasionally it's the other way around.

( Jervis Bay is a long way away, but if you really need the prospect of a 45 knot sea breeze, that's where you've got to go )

DavMen
NSW, 1499 posts
22 Nov 2016 1:18PM
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hey Dave my post is a load of horse s**t sailing is on for all but keep it to your self , it looks like the upgrade is targeted on the boat community without a lot of parking left for windsurfing , hope to see you down here it's worth the trip


Phew that's a relief - got me a beauty there Keef , will definitely head down for a sail with you guys this summer, Ill see If I can convince a few Breakaways to join in.
My lips are sealed I won't tell anybody else

Adriano
11206 posts
22 Nov 2016 1:24PM
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Mr Milk said..

If you are looking at NE, then Huskisson is the only good launch site and it is on the western side of the bay.


well said Ado are you coming up for the nsw titles on the 9th & 10th of Dec,

Mr Milk you can launch at callala bay in a n/e and less chop than husky, nice rigging area at the sailing club


Yep! Can't wait Keef!

In a decent NE breeze one can sail pretty close to Callala Bay rock reef and launch where keef mentioned on Marine Parade. Even though it's over one kilometre from the northern shore, I wouldn't launch there by choice - why would I when Husky is just down the road?

Callala Bay reef does make a good spot to aim for after about 10 upwind legs from Husky on the way over to Long Beach - another seven kilometre fast reach that will have the most hardened slalom racers shins burning at the end.

After that, you are faced with some of the most fun and challenging open water sailing back to Husky, where average board speed is around 29-30knots.

All up the return trip is about 2.0 hours with a break at what I call little Long Beach South (a small gorgeous beach south of Long Beach).

Adriano
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22 Nov 2016 1:46PM
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I guess I'm really talking about Callala beach.


Yeah definitely a wind shadow there on the northern two kilometres, but as you get to about the middle of Callala Beach, that wind shadow turns into a beautiful funnelling effect in a true NE breeze. In a NNE breeze which tends to be stronger than the NE, you need to stay about 200m offshore.

keef
NSW, 2016 posts
22 Nov 2016 6:52PM
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keef said..


Mr Milk said..

If you are looking at NE, then Huskisson is the only good launch site and it is on the western side of the bay.



well said Ado are you coming up for the nsw titles on the 9th & 10th of Dec,

Mr Milk you can launch at callala bay in a n/e and less chop than husky, nice rigging area at the sailing club



Yep! Can't wait Keef!

Callala Bay reef does make a good spot to aim for after about 10 upwind legs from Husky on the way over to Long Beach - another seven kilometre fast reach that will have the most hardened slalom racers shins burning at the end.

After that, you are faced with some of the most fun and challenging open water sailing back to Husky, where average board speed is around 29-30knots


Ado that's what makes you one of the best open water sailors in the country, there's a heap of weed just under the surface inside the cardinal marker, if its still there by the time you get here 40+ is in the bag

keef
NSW, 2016 posts
22 Nov 2016 6:57PM
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keef said..
hey Dave my post is a load of horse s**t sailing is on for all but keep it to your self , it looks like the upgrade is targeted on the boat community without a lot of parking left for windsurfing , hope to see you down here it's worth the trip



Phew that's a relief - got me a beauty there Keef , will definitely head down for a sail with you guys this summer, Ill see If I can convince a few Breakaways to join in.
My lips are sealed I won't tell anybody else



sorry Dave you will be down here quicker than you think with the highway up grades

Ian K
WA, 4048 posts
22 Nov 2016 4:52PM
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Well even though today was forecast NE all the way from here to there Sydney was the place to be. Gerroa was maybe OK, Any at Sanctuary Point Keef?

The sat photo should have kept you up north.


keef
NSW, 2016 posts
22 Nov 2016 8:37PM
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there was a hot westerly in nowra, Gav got out at SP light n/e 130lt and 7/8 managed a 31 but I don't think it was great

Mr Milk
NSW, 2990 posts
23 Nov 2016 11:08AM
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I was at Crookhaven Heads, overpowered using a 5.4. I chucked it in about 4.30 rather than rig smaller. That's a great flatwater spot at high tide, but I've never had company sailing

tomp
NSW, 688 posts
23 Nov 2016 11:26AM
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Ian K...does Sandon get waves in NE'r or does it need S/SE swell. Does Corrimal generally pick up more swell?


Adriano
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23 Nov 2016 10:50AM
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Ian K said..
Well even though today was forecast NE all the way from here to there Sydney was the place to be. Gerroa was maybe OK, Any at Sanctuary Point Keef?

The sat photo should have kept you up north.



That's what happens at the end of the NNW isobaric cycle on the west side of a high pressure system in the lower Tasman Sea.

Sydney copped the end of the NNW while the isobaric wind was W in Sanctuary Point - too strong and westerly to allow a seabreeze corkscrew to develop.

Adriano
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23 Nov 2016 10:52AM
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Adriano said..
Yep! Can't wait Keef!

Callala Bay reef does make a good spot to aim for after about 10 upwind legs from Husky on the way over to Long Beach - another seven kilometre fast reach that will have the most hardened slalom racers shins burning at the end.

After that, you are faced with some of the most fun and challenging open water sailing back to Husky, where average board speed is around 29-30knots


Ado that's what makes you one of the best open water sailors in the country, there's a heap of weed just under the surface inside the cardinal marker, if its still there by the time you get here 40+ is in the bag


Cool I'll have to check it out at Christmas Keef.

Adriano
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23 Nov 2016 11:03AM
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Ian K said..

holfuy.com/en/data/366

On a good day there's no place better than Sandon Point for a blast in the ocean. If no wind at Sandon you can try Corrimal. It's more often windy at Gerroa but occasionally it's the other way around.

( Jervis Bay is a long way away, but if you really need the prospect of a 45 knot sea breeze, that's where you've got to go )


Gee anyone would think from this that Woollongong was windsurfing mecca and we should all gravitate there for flukey 18 knot breezes!

The topography simply doesn't lend itself to great sea breezes. That's why Gerroa and Shoalhaven Heads and Jervis Bay work so well. All that breeze hemmed in around Woollongong is busting to go somewhere and is compressed as it goes around the Kiama escarpment and then funnels into the huge heated Shoalhaven Valley plain.

If it's gusty 20-25 knots in Woollongong, it's probably consistent 25 knots in Huskission & 30 knots at Plantation Point. Not always - but most of the time.

Ian K
WA, 4048 posts
23 Nov 2016 2:25PM
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tomp said..
Ian K...does Sandon get waves in NE'r or does it need S/SE swell. Does Corrimal generally pick up more swell?




Yes, but the keen local wave sailors do prefer Corrimal. Those from Sydney gain so much momentum coming down Mt Ousley that they end up at Gerroa.



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