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90+ ltrs FSW

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Created by lee1972 > 9 months ago, 5 Mar 2016
lee1972
QLD, 921 posts
5 Mar 2016 6:53PM
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Really interested to find how the lightweights 70kg find the 90litre+/- fsw.

Currently using a 2010 carbon jp 102fsw find it a little bit big in heavy chop 18+knots although it does really well with two straps on the back flat for water blasting with a 6.5.

Looking for a 1 board solution, something thats going to handle heavy large chop ( bay sailing ) but still be able to use for flat water blasting with a 6.5

Thanks in advance

Vince68
WA, 675 posts
5 Mar 2016 6:45PM
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I'm 72kg, I have a 2012 RRD 96L FSW and love this beast. Absolutely eats the chop and is a really fun ride. Great for flat water blasting and a bit of surf. I use it from 16knots with a 6.5M Tush T4 down to a 5.0 NP Combat. With the 6.5 i put on a bigger fin 32cm (stock is a 28cm) for the light wind flat water. I only have one foot strap on the rear.

When the wind picks up to 22+knots i pull out my 80L wave board but have ridden the RRD up to 25 knots... i think. well it was pretty windy and i was fairy powered up. Very versitile board and to make it go fast in light wind up the fin. To slow it down use a smaller fin....simples


PhilSWR
NSW, 1104 posts
6 Mar 2016 12:30PM
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I'm a bit heavier at 76 kilos (though steadily shrinking) and have a 94 Kode as my "all in one" board- though through necessity I have one other board... I need around 15 knots to get the Kode working and it definitely fits the bill for ocean / chop and flat water blasting. Had it out in head high plus swells and decent waves, and had it on the millpond conditions of Harrington speed strip. Mine is the 2014 model and has a very flat rocker line. Sail sizes from 5 up to 6.5 are sweet. Think 15-25 knots. Below that I'm on a 111 Carve with a 6.4 (ocean with a few waves) or 7.4 on flat water.

Not sure if one board can really do it. I've tried, but if it's sub-15 knots and you only have a "small" board, you spend lots of time watching others happily scoot along whilst you're half sinking, swearing and pulling your hair out...

sprocket
NSW, 18 posts
6 Mar 2016 10:03PM
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I am 70kg and reackon my 94Sb Kode is as close as it gets to being an all rounder for me. 2013 model, single fin, single rear foot strap, very light as it's the carbon version, is both fast and very controllable in steep chop- usually with a 6.5 NCX up to 20kn, 5.7 Blade thereafter. I am very buoyant and can up haul if necessary as well as slog home if the wind dies. My previous board was a 110l RRD Firemove, awesome board but less fun in chop. Kode 94 is way more versatile but with my skills I do need 15 kn to get planing.

Vince68
WA, 675 posts
6 Mar 2016 8:46PM
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Lee, this is my 96L toy and fins i use. 32cm for the 6.5 flat water, stock MFC 28cm for just about everything and the 24cm wave fin...well for the obvious. A choise between the kode mentioned above and my RRD you can't go wrong, both boards are pretty awesome. Either board would be fine and on par unless you're a critic for a magazine and pick the **** out of the minor stuff. Both have a massive range.






Mastbender
1972 posts
7 Mar 2016 9:45AM
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I'm 73kg and have a '14 JP96 All Ride, love that board!
I use it in head high surf (average), with a 24cm surf fin, and flat water ocean conditions with a 30cm free ride fin (stock), couldn't be happier.
It has the option of dual rear foot straps and more of an outboard position for the front foot straps, for smooth flat water, racing around, but I've never tried it in those conditions yet, but I'd like to someday. I use it with a 5.2 or bigger (only), it's very similar to Vince68's setup. It's my light wind ocean board.

lee1972
QLD, 921 posts
7 Mar 2016 6:06PM
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Well, I found a 2011 92 ltr Jp fsw for a price I couldn't say no to so I shall give that a go and see if that ticks the boxes! I dare say it will be another 6 months before that happens!

MarkSSC
QLD, 635 posts
7 Mar 2016 8:28PM
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PhilSWR said..
I'm a bit heavier at 76 kilos (though steadily shrinking) and have a 94 Kode as my "all in one" board- though through necessity I have one other board... I need around 15 knots to get the Kode working and it definitely fits the bill for ocean / chop and flat water blasting. Had it out in head high plus swells and decent waves, and had it on the millpond conditions of Harrington speed strip. Mine is the 2014 model and has a very flat rocker line. Sail sizes from 5 up to 6.5 are sweet. Think 15-25 knots. Below that I'm on a 111 Carve with a 6.4 (ocean with a few waves) or 7.4 on flat water.

Not sure if one board can really do it. I've tried, but if it's sub-15 knots and you only have a "small" board, you spend lots of time watching others happily scoot along whilst you're half sinking, swearing and pulling your hair out...


What if you have run out of hair? It is a precious commodity amongst the aging windsurfing population!!

ggh
VIC, 190 posts
7 Mar 2016 9:44PM
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I have a 93 l jp fsw with a 6.4 north duke as its biggest sail . I weigh 60 kgs , the set up is nice its balanced and feels good though I only
use the 6.4 on light days and on flat water the rig is to heavy for the waves but good bay sailing,




KJ
VIC, 157 posts
12 Mar 2016 11:17PM
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lee1972 said..

Really interested to find how the lightweights 70kg find the 90litre+/- fsw.

Currently using a 2010 carbon jp 102fsw find it a little bit big in heavy chop 18+knots although it does really well with two straps on the back flat for water blasting with a 6.5.

Looking for a 1 board solution, something thats going to handle heavy large chop ( bay sailing ) but still be able to use for flat water blasting with a 6.5

Thanks in advance


Have you looked into a Tabou rocket?

Me and a mate of mine always use to ride FSW. Then we moved over to Rockets. We found that we were always using the FSW in chop and really in small waves. FSW tend to ride on top of the water for a more "alive" ride, where as something like the Rocket is a more planted ride and not so bouncy. I've run 116L and 106L and 96L FSW's. I sold my 116L FSW and got a 115L rocket - which was the best move as I'm not bouncing in chop so much. My friend has a 105L rocket and mainly runs a 5.7 and 6.2 on it in 14-20knts. He doesn't hit the 60kg mark and absolutely loves his Rocket.

Maybe consider a 95 or 105L rocket if you aren't going in any waves

ps - the max sail size for the 95 is 6.7 and 105 7.0 on the tabou web site and we have found them correct (not sure about the minimum though)

sboardcrazy
NSW, 8019 posts
18 Mar 2016 2:24PM
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KJ said..


lee1972 said..

Really interested to find how the lightweights 70kg find the 90litre+/- fsw.

Currently using a 2010 carbon jp 102fsw find it a little bit big in heavy chop 18+knots although it does really well with two straps on the back flat for water blasting with a 6.5.

Looking for a 1 board solution, something thats going to handle heavy large chop ( bay sailing ) but still be able to use for flat water blasting with a 6.5

Thanks in advance




Have you looked into a Tabou rocket?

Me and a mate of mine always use to ride FSW. Then we moved over to Rockets. We found that we were always using the FSW in chop and really in small waves. FSW tend to ride on top of the water for a more "alive" ride, where as something like the Rocket is a more planted ride and not so bouncy. I've run 116L and 106L and 96L FSW's. I sold my 116L FSW and got a 115L rocket - which was the best move as I'm not bouncing in chop so much. My friend has a 105L rocket and mainly runs a 5.7 and 6.2 on it in 14-20knts. He doesn't hit the 60kg mark and absolutely loves his Rocket.

Maybe consider a 95 or 105L rocket if you aren't going in any waves

ps - the max sail size for the 95 is 6.7 and 105 7.0 on the tabou web site and we have found them correct (not sure about the minimum though)



I used to use a 7m on my 95 for 12-18kts winds in chop or for GPS ..handled it fine although as it was a heavy cammed sail with a big luff pocket the sailor found the sail a bit scary to drop..

morts
WA, 179 posts
18 Mar 2016 1:28PM
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Is a Tabou 3S 96l on your list?

I'm about 70kg & use a 6.5m Ezzy Cheetah with no problems on mine. They have been talked about pretty positively in a few threads.

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/Review/Bump-and-Jump/

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/Review/2014-Tabou-3s-96L/

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/General/Ultimate-ocean-bump-jump-combo-for-strong-winds/

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/Victoria/Good-board-for-bay-chop/



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