Has anyone who used to sail the recent S1 Pro's tried the current S1 standards and if so how do they compare?
As they claim to now be the same shape I wondered if they feel a lot closer than the previous years which felt very different. I like the lightweight of the S1 pro's but what I liked most was the feel and range which were awesome for a 4 batten sail. Interested to know if its the shape rather than the material which delivers the feel. thx
The 2020 S1 pros still aren't readily available, although I've seen some.
The standard 2020 S1s are nothing like the 2019 pro versions, or even like the 2019 standard versions. They now have a more open leech at the head. They are built to be light, so the weight saving over the pros can't be much.
I have a whole set of the standard 2020 S1s and I like them. Basically they are powerful sails for onshore conditions, giving plenty of grunt and drive along the wave face.
And for a more neutral sail from cross to cross off conditions try the standard 2020 Blades.
I had a go on my mates 5.3m 2020 Blade Pro the other day, really impressed. I was on my 4.8m '17 S1 Pro that day and the Blade was a lot more stable and locked in but way less grunty than I was expecting. Didn't get over powered and handled the gusts really well.
I tried a 2015 Blade a few years back and it pulled like a truck! New ones seem a lot more refined and power comes on progressively.
I also had a go of a 4.7m Redback in similar conditions and was very impressed, a super light and comfortable sail. Power is a bit lower down than the S1 which makes sense for the target market but at 70kg and 178cm it worked just fine for me. Boom was on the clew's bottom hole so could have moved it up too.
Some week ago I've tested a new S1 pro 4.4 2020 against my old S1 pro 4.4 2019 and a 4.4 Blade 2020.
The S1 pro 2020 is more powerful than my 4.4 pro 2019, more stable in profile under strong gusts, with an amazing and superb early planning. But I find my S1 pro 4.4 2019 softer, definitely softer feeling sail.
Blade 2020 is another superb sails, soft, powerfull, super stable, with an impressive top end speed. Extreme ease rigging, you can't go wrong it's always good , Tuned or untuned the blade is always very nice. You will only need a long extension with this 4.5 Blade 2020.
We could not test these sails in real waves because the conditions were stormy, we were in the water with the 3.6 S1 pro 2018 overpowered.
Now we are in Red Area due to Cov19 and I don't kow when I will can go on the water all is forbidden
wow - you sailed the new glued s1 Manawa ? ....
sorry to hear your in lockdown - cant you swing by the beach on way to the supermarket .... ;-) ? .... best self isolation place at moment is on the water .... !
I was reminded how good the older s1 pro membrane was last week - even with a 90% mast (used to use the 100% but snapped it) ...
Also absolutely love the 2019 s1 standard 4.4 I have ----- rigged almost touching the boom (156 boom when spec 157 ) the sail has an 'inflate' soooo fwd pulling in that dacron luff pocket - that side and side off riding its felt insane .... really really love it ....
I suppose another way to look at carbon s1 , if its as you say so stable under load - is that its 4 batten version of blade pro .... (as blade pro has all the attributes you describe )
I wonder what wet weight would be like as no conventional seams ... vs wet weight s1 standard
These will be hard to get hold of (as maybe with all sails 2021 etc ) with c19 outbreak