Open book...I'm new here, I usually mow the lawn but I decided to try something new. Just looking for answers so I don't run into anyone.
Question 1: Encountered an interesting scenario during my first day on the waves. Cross/off breeze, waves crumbling in the same direction as the wind. Sailor A, established on a wave, sailor B chasing and overtaking the wave. Sailor A performs a bottom turn and encounters sailor B.
Has sailor A failed to stay upwind as per sailing RoW, OR, has sailer B dropped in on sailer A as per surfing RoW?
Question 2: Does sailing inside the break change the standard head to head Port/Starboard rule? If so, who gives way?
Sailing right of way rules generally don't apply when we are talking breaking surf.
As a general rule:
- sailor on the way out should go wide, especially on waves were the sailor coming in might not be able to go straight
- sailor on wave coming in should give way to sailor going out, especially in bigger waves
- sailor waiting the longest, furthest out, furthest up wind gets the wave
- don't get on a wave that already has a sailor on it
- try to avoid parking for a wave, although that's sometimes unavoidable
Sailor A clearly had ROW being on the wave first and also being up wind of sailor B . Sailor B should have given up that wave , turned around to catch the one behind " IF " no one was on it or kept going out to get back into the line up.
Cheers Gents. In the end sailor A (me) went for a swim rather than coming into contact with B. Surfaced to watch B scowling at me as he sailed away. Good to know it may not have been my fault after all
My own simplified rules:
1. do my best to avoid collisions (assume others may not know about priorities or recognize situations in the first place)
2. rider closest to the peak has priority (may not be as distinct as it sounds, see 1.)
3. rider may jibe and be on swell before other who was waiting for a piece of swell (sux for that rider)
4. rider working the wave has priority over rider mowing the lawn!
5. we may ride front or back side, apply rule 2.
6. be nice to people heading out, they should have the right of way (depends on the spot, I believe ? la Hawa?an, rider working the wave has priority)
Applying 2. in your case, A has priority unless blocking the peak for B. When I'm B and I want to hit the peak I try to make A understand that I want it especially when they just head straight down without any intention or sign that they want to work the wave.
Staying cool, understanding there will be more waves, avoiding waves with people on it. Feeling good about offering a wave to someone, etc.
Waves are fun!
Where were you sailing?
A lot lot of the time a certain person rather than thier position on the wave has "priority",
put the blinkers on and go, hand them a tissue when you get back to the car park.
Give way to surfers if they're out, if it's surfable.
My pet hate are the twitchers that look back and decide your wave is better than theirs, drop off the back of theirs, park then try to claim the up wind rule on the wave you've been on from our back!
And never ever come over the back of the wave somebody is clearly riding. Ever.
Combined with the normal (no waves) scenario of overtaking vessel must keep clear, B was wrong both ways.
Hello, I'm new here and I'm usually doing other things but lately I'm interested in surfing and electric. I want to ask you have any opinion about them?
Some places there isn't much choice. once you pull off the back of the wave, there may not be anybody riding. So you start dogging back upwind, but make the mistake of not allowing for a bigger set coming through. Which somebody has picked up, you have to bear away to pick up speed to make it over the shoulder, or get thoroughly munched by mast high white water. In this case, I suggest, the wave rider, should give the guy going out room to make the shoulder.
So I'm not really in favour of hard and fast "rules", yes guide lines are good, but it's cases like this there needs to be a bit of flexibility.
DO AS YOU WOULD BE DONE BY.
Is a great guide
yes and there's a max size sail you want to use on a wave, it's better to do out, than have too big a sail.