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Carbon Booms

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Created by SlightlyDamp > 9 months ago, 20 Nov 2022
SlightlyDamp
18 posts
20 Nov 2022 6:33PM
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Are Carbon booms worth the money?

Asking because my current boom (North Silver line with adjustable lines) seems really heavy and I would like to reduce the weight.

Really love this boom apart from the weight, and it has survived at least a couple of runs across the rocks with only grip rash!

I think the vario lines weigh a fair bit by themselves and I could make a difference just by swopping them to fixed lines.

Would I get a significant benefit from a carbon boom relative to their price, do they make enough of a difference to the feel of the rig or is it just something you get if you are loaded?

Thanks

boffe
VIC, 82 posts
20 Nov 2022 9:47PM
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In my opinion and experience it make a lot of difference to use a proper carbon boom! Yes they cost a lot, but they also last long and the sailing experience it's way better! Lighter stiffer the sail doesn't deform under gust, highly suggested!

Bobbin
WA, 122 posts
20 Nov 2022 7:08PM
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Yes

awg
SA, 56 posts
20 Nov 2022 9:48PM
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The weight is a little bit better, but the feel is much better. More direct. Aluminium boom feels spongy when you go back. Also often the narrow diameter is significantly better in a long session.

Manuel7
1263 posts
20 Nov 2022 7:41PM
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They are definitely worth 200-300 usd used for sure!

Wind Smurf
NSW, 242 posts
21 Nov 2022 7:25AM
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Most carbon booms are not lighter than aluminium booms but they are stronger and stiffer and give a much better feel to the rig.
In some ways its like having properly pumped up tyres on your bike, it connects you to the road and makes it faster.
Softer tyres and a bit squishy, less response and slower.

mr love
VIC, 2352 posts
21 Nov 2022 11:40AM
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Just do it!!

Manuel7
1263 posts
22 Nov 2022 3:18AM
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Under the gear section of my tips page you can find my detailed thoughts about carbon vs alloy: windsurfing.lepicture.com/tips-and-tricks/

seabreezer
377 posts
22 Nov 2022 8:31AM
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This is a no brainer imo ,,,,, carbon out performs alloy so ridiculously ..... and last 5 times or more longer ! .... Also , from a safety perspective - do you really want a corroded alloy boom arm snapping when a mile out ?? ...... Even for my kid starting wave sailing - will transfer him onto carbon soon for durability ,....

Save up the money - and invest longterm .... , if you go Severne enigma , or other quality Reduced grip booms like Goya / aerons etc - they are lighter and have big impact imo on rig weights .....

Same thing with masts - the more you can invest , the better everything will feel , the lighter , the longer you can sail ....

aeroegnr
1576 posts
22 Nov 2022 9:14AM
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I was skeptical about the cost and difference but I'm pretty sure my carbon booms are going to easily outlast my older aluminum ones, and the feel and stiffness is just so much better.

Daithidmg
53 posts
22 Nov 2022 7:43PM
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100% yes, only problem is an alloy boom will never feel right again after you use a carbon one.

Manuel7
1263 posts
23 Nov 2022 10:27AM
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Carbon snaps too. A mile out, no problem, reverse boom side if needed.

Head stiffness plays a big role too. No two booms are equal.

You want a heavy alloy boom to compete with carbon stiffness. Heavy alloy also guarantee durability. Avoid light alloy booms!

Finally, some skinny carbon booms may feel soft...

SlightlyDamp
18 posts
25 Nov 2022 2:14AM
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Looks like that's unanimous then!

Better start saving..

GasHazard
356 posts
30 Nov 2022 8:10PM
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SlightlyDamp said..
Looks like that's unanimous then!

Better start saving..


There's always one or two on buy and sell here.

SlightlyDamp
18 posts
6 Feb 2023 8:13AM
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Anyone used a goya carbon skinny pro boom - are they any good?

philn
811 posts
6 Feb 2023 10:53AM
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SlightlyDamp said..
Anyone used a goya carbon skinny pro boom - are they any good?


I've had one since 2016. Still my main boom, still going strong.

Henners
373 posts
6 Feb 2023 11:24AM
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Just to add something more. If you have aluminium and play in salt water then you have to wash it every time, carbon well you can be a little lazy.

Manuel7
1263 posts
6 Feb 2023 4:46PM
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Apparently the Goya skinny can be a little softer, what's your weight?

How does one go about rinsing a boom?

Henners
373 posts
6 Feb 2023 6:09PM
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Manuel7 said..
Apparently the Goya skinny can be a little softer, what's your weight?

How does one go about rinsing a boom?


Get a hose spray around the outside, take the extension out shove the hose down the hole and spray down the extention.
It is just trying to stop or slow down the chemical reaction of salt and aluminium.


Henners
373 posts
6 Feb 2023 6:28PM
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Actually as I think about I am not even sure if the boom is hollow all the way up to the end. I just followed what a windsurfing club of mine did.
I have a broken aluminium boom outside so tomorrow I will have a look and see if it is hollow all the way at up to where the screws to the head part are.
I'll get back to you.
But the boom has to be cleaned or dismantled anyway to avoid the extention seizing.

Manuel7
1263 posts
6 Feb 2023 8:31PM
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Sounds like quite some work!
I believe rental centers all have alloy booms here. I wonder how long they last without any washing?

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Henners said..

Manuel7 said..
Apparently the Goya skinny can be a little softer, what's your weight?

How does one go about rinsing a boom?



Get a hose spray around the outside, take the extension out shove the hose down the hole and spray down the extention.
It is just trying to stop or slow down the chemical reaction of salt and aluminium.


SlightlyDamp
18 posts
6 Feb 2023 8:51PM
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Manuel7 said..
Sounds like quite some work!
I believe rental centers all have alloy booms here. I wonder how long they last without any washing?


Henners said..


Manuel7 said..
Apparently the Goya skinny can be a little softer, what's your weight?

How does one go about rinsing a boom?




Get a hose spray around the outside, take the extension out shove the hose down the hole and spray down the extention.
It is just trying to stop or slow down the chemical reaction of salt and aluminium.





I'm 84KG and I am considering Goya skinny or Duatone Platinum Megaslim

Anyone have an opinion on which one is better?

Concur with rinsing aluminium booms. I am in the U.K. and have always tried to rinse mine with freshwater from the hose after every session. If I miss a rinsing, I can see the salt residue building up after a couple of weeks.
I have rarely bothered to disassemble it though, just give it a good soaking in fresh water seems to do the job.

I guess hire centers will get away with it by replacing the kit every year?

philn
811 posts
6 Feb 2023 9:13PM
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SlightlyDamp said..
I'm 84KG and I am considering Goya skinny or Duatone Platinum Megaslim

Anyone have an opinion on which one is better?


whichever one you can get cheaper. They are both good quality products.

I know some people dislike the bend of the Duotone near the head, but I didn't notice the difference when I used it. Also the duotone has skinnier arms which no matter how high quality the carbon means it's probably slightly less stiff.

Manuel7
1263 posts
7 Feb 2023 8:30AM
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A slim diameter up front makes it more comfortable in float and ride. The streamlined boom as a counter example is huge and can lead to forearm fatigue.

I really like the new school bends as it keeps straight further near the head and limits wrist torsion.

I don't think they change them every year. I'll ask. I broke a hybrid gaastra boom. The thing was as light as a feather. It was corroded about mid point. It did feel noodly before, it should have been my cue.

Henners
373 posts
7 Feb 2023 11:47AM
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Manuel7 said..
Sounds like quite some work!
I believe rental centers all have alloy booms here. I wonder how long they last without any washing?


Henners said..


Manuel7 said..
Apparently the Goya skinny can be a little softer, what's your weight?

How does one go about rinsing a boom?




Get a hose spray around the outside, take the extension out shove the hose down the hole and spray down the extention.
It is just trying to stop or slow down the chemical reaction of salt and aluminium.





One more reason to buy a carbon boom.
Just checked out two aluminum booms that both snapped at the same spot (just near the bolts on the boom head side). Yeah, no way can water reach all the way up there as the boom has a plug just before this part.
But still, to stop the extension seizing it does need to be washed down from time to time.

JakeNN
362 posts
7 Feb 2023 7:51PM
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philn said..
I know some people dislike the bend of the Duotone near the head


that is only psychological

clearly there is a benefit with the angle of your wrist .. unless you prefer holding the boom with your wrist at an angle.

Manuel7
1263 posts
8 Feb 2023 4:00AM
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Rental booms last 5 years. Worse when using near full extension. Heads are problematic especially the ones with screws.



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