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Ezzy Wing - The Flight

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Created by larsdegroot 8 months ago, 10 Feb 2024
larsdegroot
86 posts
10 Feb 2024 5:08AM
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Windsurfers know the quality of Ezzy.
Did anyone try this wing already?
It looks pretty nice.


MidAtlanticFoil
719 posts
10 Feb 2024 8:17AM
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I've heard good things through the grapevine.

MProject04
514 posts
10 Feb 2024 10:05AM
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Love Ezzy! If I hadn't already a 4 wing quiver it'd be on my list for sure!

Faff
VIC, 1192 posts
10 Feb 2024 3:01PM
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No windows.

airsail
QLD, 1364 posts
10 Feb 2024 6:25PM
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Faff said..
No windows.


Windows just add weight and of little use, most brands now have tiny windows that you can't see anything through anyway.

beached57
82 posts
10 Feb 2024 8:22PM
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i was hoping Ezzy would make wings like their windsurf sails...all clear for visibility. yeah, i know that stuff is heavier, but after colliding with a boat recently, visibility is #1 for me.

larsdegroot
86 posts
10 Feb 2024 9:10PM
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airsail said..

Faff said..
No windows.



Windows just add weight and of little use, most brands now have tiny windows that you can't see anything through anyway.


100% agree here. Most of the times they are placed in a way you have to move the wing so you can see through the windows. What is the point then? With my nova without windows, I also move the wing to see under or next to me. It just adds weight.

Powis
WA, 67 posts
10 Feb 2024 9:42PM
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Current windows probably serve more as a 'increasing your peripheral vision' rather than something you can peak through and somehow see the entire field. What I mean is you might happen see something useful approaching through the window but they aren't great to actively look through. My 2c

DWF
618 posts
10 Feb 2024 10:16PM
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As riders move to using a harness, any window is a help. Unhooking to constantly look around is not realistic.

Haircut
QLD, 6481 posts
11 Feb 2024 7:13PM
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careful what you wish for. in another sport that logo represents equipment with superfluous weight, used by cranky old fellas

coming to your spot!

Youngbreezy
WA, 1007 posts
11 Feb 2024 8:29PM
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beached57 said..
i was hoping Ezzy would make wings like their windsurf sails...all clear for visibility. yeah, i know that stuff is heavier, but after colliding with a boat recently, visibility is #1 for me.


Come on mate you can't drop a bombshell like that and not tell us what happened?

beached57
82 posts
12 Feb 2024 3:31AM
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Youngbreezy said..

beached57 said..
i was hoping Ezzy would make wings like their windsurf sails...all clear for visibility. yeah, i know that stuff is heavier, but after colliding with a boat recently, visibility is #1 for me.



Come on mate you can't drop a bombshell like that and not tell us what happened?


not much to tell. i was heading towards shore and a boat was coming from my blind side (downwind of me). i never saw it till it appeared around my wing (i.e., it was a foot or so from me) and i hit it, flew into the air, hit a metal railing, and bounced back into the water. board destroyed, wing destroyed, but though i couldn't walk for about 12 hours, ultimately i just had a bad back for about a month. didn't have a cut on me. the boater said he saw me coming, but assumed i was going to turn. brilliant, huh?! and yes, i have windows on my wing, but as we all know, the view isn't much from them. i do lift my wing often for visibility, but clearly stuff can still happen quickly.

Gorgo
VIC, 4988 posts
12 Feb 2024 7:24AM
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I was a confirmed no windows person because I found them useless and I thought they gave a false sense of security. I demoed wings with huge windows, and eventually bought a wing with teeny tiny windows, and found no reason to change my opinion.

I noticed the fastest guy in our spot always held his wing down low with the strut lower than his chest and the tips lower than the board. I tried that and pop, instantly riding faster and, surprisingly clear vision through the tiny windows.

I still prefer to lift the wing for a good look around, and I still have to dodge people with all sorts of windows, and I still like the clean elegance of a canopy with no windows, but I am finding the windows I have a lot more useful.

Gwarn
225 posts
13 Feb 2024 1:28AM
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beached57 said..

Youngbreezy said..


beached57 said..
i was hoping Ezzy would make wings like their windsurf sails...all clear for visibility. yeah, i know that stuff is heavier, but after colliding with a boat recently, visibility is #1 for me.




Come on mate you can't drop a bombshell like that and not tell us what happened?



not much to tell. i was heading towards shore and a boat was coming from my blind side (downwind of me). i never saw it till it appeared around my wing (i.e., it was a foot or so from me) and i hit it, flew into the air, hit a metal railing, and bounced back into the water. board destroyed, wing destroyed, but though i couldn't walk for about 12 hours, ultimately i just had a bad back for about a month. didn't have a cut on me. the boater said he saw me coming, but assumed i was going to turn. brilliant, huh?! and yes, i have windows on my wing, but as we all know, the view isn't much from them. i do lift my wing often for visibility, but clearly stuff can still happen quickly.


You're probably one of the luckiest people alive today....

Taavi
277 posts
13 Feb 2024 3:31AM
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Gwarn said..







beached57 said..








Youngbreezy said..









beached57 said..
i was hoping Ezzy would make wings like their windsurf sails...all clear for visibility. yeah, i know that stuff is heavier, but after colliding with a boat recently, visibility is #1 for me.











Come on mate you can't drop a bombshell like that and not tell us what happened?










not much to tell. i was heading towards shore and a boat was coming from my blind side (downwind of me). i never saw it till it appeared around my wing (i.e., it was a foot or so from me) and i hit it, flew into the air, hit a metal railing, and bounced back into the water. board destroyed, wing destroyed, but though i couldn't walk for about 12 hours, ultimately i just had a bad back for about a month. didn't have a cut on me. the boater said he saw me coming, but assumed i was going to turn. brilliant, huh?! and yes, i have windows on my wing, but as we all know, the view isn't much from them. i do lift my wing often for visibility, but clearly stuff can still happen quickly.









You're probably one of the luckiest people alive today....








Glad you are alright, But it amazes me how different is the experience people are having with their gear. The view from the windows can be phenomenally good, you just need to choose the gear appropriately.




While a beginner you can really only relay on window(s) that are below the strut (and if the window is very close to the strut it's not really useful), but after advancing that phase a window shaped as a stipe just above the strut is all you'll need.

boardsurfr
WA, 2341 posts
13 Feb 2024 4:19AM
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beached57 said..
i was heading towards shore and a boat was coming from my blind side (downwind of me). i never saw it till it appeared around my wing (i.e., it was a foot or so from me) and i hit it, flew into the air, hit a metal railing, and bounced back into the water. board destroyed, wing destroyed, but though i couldn't walk for about 12 hours, ultimately i just had a bad back for about a month. didn't have a cut on me. the boater said he saw me coming, but assumed i was going to turn. brilliant, huh?! and yes, i have windows on my wing, but as we all know, the view isn't much from them. i do lift my wing often for visibility, but clearly stuff can still happen quickly.



Not sure how windows would have helped with a boat coming from your blind side?

That said, I looked into one collision between a boat and a windsurfer where the windsurfer wore a GPS, so we could reconstruct what happened quite well. 30 seconds before the collision, boat and windsurfer were still more than 200 meters apart (both going less than 20 knots). Without windows, you'd have to lift your wing more than twice every minute to see that you're on a collision course. It's actually a bit worse than that, because it is very hard so see how fast someone is getting closer when approaching at a roughly right angle.

After analysing this accident, motor boats and jet skis make me very nervous. I stay far away, change course early, and never rely on the boater to see me and act appropriately. But that may not be possible at all places.

sunsetsailboards
480 posts
13 Feb 2024 6:45AM
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to me, wing windows are like the mirrors in your car. I use them to keep aware of my surroundings while I'm driving, but I still swivel my head to look out the windows when I'm changing lanes or backing up. I take a quick peak around before I change directions by looking through my windows and by swiveling my head (and sometimes lifting the wing). One little trick for me is to pull the wing in really close to me and lean my head into the window so it's almost touching the window so I can really see everything on the other side of the window.

hilly
WA, 7335 posts
13 Feb 2024 12:59PM
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Haha windows do a search to get some heated discussions over the years. I have had kiters run into me, yep they swerved 3 times before they got me and I watched it the whole way without windows. They sure as ****e do not need windows.

Windows no windows that is the question but it really is irrelevant. It is the pilots situational awareness that is most important. Not sure how you run into a boat, I stay well away from those incompetent sailors.

No windows with straight arms I can see really well forward and a quick lift every 10 seconds gives me 180 coverage of the blind spots. Windows do not help where the leading edge is, so everyone needs to look there frequently. Windows only show you straight downwind.

airsail
QLD, 1364 posts
13 Feb 2024 3:40PM
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It's interesting that wings are moving to rigid non stretch materials such as aluula and Mod3 but then we fit stretchy pieces of plastic to the canopy, seems a bit strange.

hilly
WA, 7335 posts
13 Feb 2024 2:18PM
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airsail said..
It's interesting that wings are moving to rigid non stretch materials such as alula and Mod3 but then we fit stretchy pieces of plastic to the canopy, seems a bit strange.


Not me. No windows please.

larsdegroot
86 posts
13 Feb 2024 6:09PM
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Nope, happy to see this wing without windows.

beached57
82 posts
13 Feb 2024 9:04PM
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hilly said..
It is the pilots situational awareness that is most important. Not sure how you run into a boat,


i agree 100% that it is the pilots awareness that counts. obviously i wouldn't have hit the boat if i ever saw it...i'm not a masochist. but that's the point, i never saw it till it was directly in front of me. had i lifted my wing 5 seconds before it happened, it wouldn't have happened. but i guess that's how you define 'an accident'. i think if my wing was transparent, like the ole Reedin Superwing X, it also wouldn't have happened (hence my original comment here about Ezzy sails). anyway, all i can say is that from hereon, i'll lift my wing way more often.

NordRoi
645 posts
13 Feb 2024 9:43PM
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I wonder if now window on a wing creates the habit of looking more and be aware of what are coming around. 3 accidents in my area and 3 of them was with wing with windows?

motogon
183 posts
6 Apr 2024 4:01AM
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Arrived! us.ezzywings.com/

Oahuwaterwalker
230 posts
10 Apr 2024 8:22AM
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I've been riding the Ezzy wings since January. How this came about is a little bit of a story in itself, so bear with me on the explanation before the review...

I've been living in Hawaii for 27 years, windsurfed since I was 7 (I'm 53 now), kitesurfed for many years. From 1999 to about 2007, I was a team rider for Naish Hawaii (not Naish International). Basically, I got gear at a very good deal then good trade it in for new stuff every 6 months. During those years, I got to know a lot of folks in the water sport community in Hawaii. Fast forward to December 2023, a neighbor of mine and fellow windsurfer has been doing R&D for Ezzy Windsurfing sales for years. He told me David Ezzy was looking for someone on Oahu (less wind than Maui) to give feedback on the wings and asked if I would be interested in learning more. Apparently, David likes to make sure that he has real world riders (intermediate riders like me) giving feedback and wanted to know how some of the wings perform in Oahu conditions (typically 10-20 knots with occasional periods of 20-30 knots).

David and I spoke, he sent over some wings for a "no obligation" trial period. I enlisted another local rider who is a real stand out in the surf and we had at them...

(I'll add the disclaimer here... I ended up liking these wings enough to get rid of my Cabrinha Apex and move forward with the Ezzy. I get a discount, but at this point in my life that isn't the deciding factor for which wings I ride)

Both of us have been winging for around 4 years mostly riding ocean swell that has a crumbly but steep break on an outside reef. Waves and rollers from head to double overhead are fairly common. We had a 6M, 5.5M, and 4M to ride. From the start, both of us noticed a few things.

Positive:
- Very fast
- Point as high or higher than anything either of us have ridden (Armstrong, FOne 1, 2, 3, Reedin, Cabrinha Apex, Ensis). The only one that was close was the Apex, but that wing is a story for another time.
-Very lofty for jumps
-Excellent flagging from pistol grip you can very effectively fly the wing and even power it with one hand while on a wave
-Very stable flagging from LE (also see "what we found challenging")
-Very powerful but still has a massive range: In one single day in the same conditions each of us rode all three sizes. While the 6 and 5.5 were a handful, they remained sailable. Both of us used the 6 and 5.5 in a recent race when it was blowing 15 to 25 knots. I was lit (80kg) but never felt like the wing got crazy. On the low end, I've managed to get on foil with the 5.5, 69L board, and the Armstrong HA680 in 10-12 knots
-Very well made, you can see it in the stitching and design

What we found challenging:
-On the low end, the Ezzy requires a more technical pumping technique that reminds me a bit of what was needed with the Reedin SuperwingX. Once you figure it out (it's not complicated, but takes practice - more on this later), there's a ton of low end, but if you're coming from a wing like the FOne V1 or V2, anticipate needing some practice to get this right. If you're riding on the higher end, it's easy to access power.

-More on low end power... Fair warning, of the people who we let demo the wings, the ones who were coming from wings like the FOne V1 and V2 reported that they couldn't get any low end out of the Ezzy. My counterpart came from the same wings and it took him a session or two to get it dialed. I'm used to the flatter profile so the pumping technique was already familiar to me. Basically, imagine you're holding a broom handle at eye to forehead level, it works best with both hands in overhand grip, you pump in a circular motion and point a little further off wind than you would with a baggier wing design, as the board accelerates you need to steadily turn up wind.

-While the wings are very stable once on foil and/or on a wave, oddly, they are not when standing still or walking on the beach. I found holding it from the front boom handle in pistol grip with the LE resting on your forearm to be the trick. I was telling David about this and he said this is likely due to the flat canopy. If someone hands you one of these wings on the beach and it moves around, don't be fooled, this doesn't happen on the water.

-My counterpart on Oahu has a wild and fluid style for riding waves that tends to look like the direction of the wind doesn't matter to him. For that style, he still prefers the way the FOne v2 performs on a wave, but said the Ezzy outperforms in so many other ways he's ok with giving up a little on that aspect of riding. Plain and simple, he's still killing it on the Ezzy in surf.

At this point, we have ridden the three sizes A LOT and gave feedback that has been incorporated into the wings that are currently being released. The main point of feedback we had was on the 6M and 5.5M was that the LE handle needed to be moved down a bit closer to the boom strut. There was also some input he got from riders on Maui and Hood River that were immediately put into the latest round of production (what is available now).

I just received my box of the production wings and only got to ride the 5M for about 30 minutes. It was blowing a solid 20-30 knots and my arms were getting smoked. I will say this, the new LE handle position is perfect, super easy to go between boom to LE handle. I also noticed, even with the crazy wind, that the 5M seems even more stable than our first batch of wings when you're up and going and it had tons of power.

On top of all of this, if you read the website, David has a genuinely good way of doing business. He runs his own factory, knows a ton about sail design, treats the employees very well, and is conscientious of the impact material choices have on the environment.

In summary, I really like these wings they are fast, lofty, good range, stable flagging from LE or boom, but will require some learning for low end pumping if you're coming from a wing that doesn't have a tight canopy.

At this point in life, I can ride whatever wings I want, but I'm very happily moving forward with the Ezzy.



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