Anybody have firsthand experience with these? Wonder how this Dyneema material stacks up to Aluula / Hookipa. The LE looks smaller than anything Ive seen and the psi is super high. Kind of surprising that they say you need to size UP - I would expect these stiff materials to allow you to size down.
www.fiveowindsports.com/store/p/the-dynamo-wing
Who can spill the beans?
Anybody have firsthand experience with these? Wonder how this Dyneema material stacks up to Aluula / Hookipa. The LE looks smaller than anything Ive seen and the psi is super high. Kind of surprising that they say you need to size UP - I would expect these stiff materials to allow you to size down.
www.fiveowindsports.com/store/p/the-dynamo-wing
Who can spill the beans?
I don't have a lot of beans, but I did see one in person at the crissy field races last month. The guy on it seemed to struggle to get on foil a little bit, but it was pretty holey on the inside that day. In the race, he was clearly faster and higher upwind than most of the fleet but guys on bigger wings were faster downwind. The wing looked pretty impressive, very tight canopy and the whole thing moved around as a unit without any flapping or flexing.
I'm going to Maui in July, hopefully I'll have a chance to try one out...
The 2.4 is best at 19psi but not hard at all to pump as it has low volume small le and we provide a high pressure sup pump with the wings..
Hey Guys and Gals , Im Sam the designer of the Dynamo By Five-o Ask away!!!
Please post some more pics and details of the materials on the website. A video showing the material and features would be good too, looks like a very interesting wing
Anybody have firsthand experience with these? Wonder how this Dyneema material stacks up to Aluula / Hookipa. The LE looks smaller than anything Ive seen and the psi is super high. Kind of surprising that they say you need to size UP - I would expect these stiff materials to allow you to size down.
www.fiveowindsports.com/store/p/the-dynamo-wing
Who can spill the beans?
Hey Velociraptor! You might not have to size up depending on skill and board volume for people on sinkers the Dynamo dose not have the Grunt that wings with big tubes and flappy sails have the trade off is you get a much cleaner wing that performs better at speed. With a floating board it is just an issue of pumping technique some people get it immediately some takes a few sessions to figure it out it take a bit more finesse and feel to not stall the wing when trying to get out of the hole.. the dynamo actually pumps much better because of the stiffness just a different higher frequency shorter stroke pump - think rabbit not bull
Anybody have firsthand experience with these? Wonder how this Dyneema material stacks up to Aluula / Hookipa. The LE looks smaller than anything Ive seen and the psi is super high. Kind of surprising that they say you need to size UP - I would expect these stiff materials to allow you to size down.
www.fiveowindsports.com/store/p/the-dynamo-wing
Who can spill the beans?
Hey Velociraptor! You might not have to size up depending on skill and board volume for people on sinkers the Dynamo dose not have the Grunt that wings with big tubes and flappy sails have the trade off is you get a much cleaner wing that performs better at speed. With a floating board it is just an issue of pumping technique some people get it immediately some takes a few sessions to figure it out it take a bit more finesse and feel to not stall the wing when trying to get out of the hole.. the dynamo actually pumps much better because of the stiffness just a different higher frequency shorter stroke pump - think rabbit not bull
And the next size up Dynamo still weighs less than the size down of any brand
How does your Dyneema fabric to Aluula or Hookipa? Weight? Stiffness? Durability? Manufacturing difficulty?
We are primarily focused on the structure, but how does the material perform on the canopy? Resistance to bagging?
I think its very cool that a small upstart brand is experimenting with these new fabrics, but how did that come about? Why aren't the big brands using this? How did you get your hands on it first?
I understand your comments on pump and power. I have a quiver of OR glides and the pump is less powerful than other wings, but it does fly a lot "cleaner" due to the smaller leading edge and stiffer frame.
Kudos on bringing something new to the market. Price isn't too crazy either. I would love to try one, but I'm a long ways away (northeast USA).
How does your Dyneema fabric to Aluula or Hookipa? Weight? Stiffness? Durability? Manufacturing difficulty?
We are primarily focused on the structure, but how does the material perform on the canopy? Resistance to bagging?
I think its very cool that a small upstart brand is experimenting with these new fabrics, but how did that come about? Why aren't the big brands using this? How did you get your hands on it first?
I understand your comments on pump and power. I have a quiver of OR glides and the pump is less powerful than other wings, but it does fly a lot "cleaner" due to the smaller leading edge and stiffer frame.
Kudos on bringing something new to the market. Price isn't too crazy either. I would love to try one, but I'm a long ways away (northeast USA).
Kenny Adgate commented on an IG post that these wings are the Mikes Labs of wings. That sounds great to me. Ordering soon.
Has anyone here ridden one of these wings ? If so can you give an unbiased punter review? It looks and sounds amazing , but the proof is always in the pudding.
Particularly interested in how it goes upwind , how it flags out, and its wind range ( esp its behaviour towards its top end and in gusts). Also how it compares to your previous wings , to give a basis of comparison.
Cheers
Why aren't the big brands using this?
They have been prototyping these materials for over one year. I rode one with it, last summer in the Gorge. I plan to use an electric pump when the industry goes to high pressure.
If you produce 10,000 plus wings a year, you cannot take risks, so it can take more evaluation time.
Quite a few out recently in the Gorge. They look good, nice tight canopy loaded up, minimal trailing edge flap. It's a very simple design compared to the major brands i.e. five LE segments per side vs seven for a V3 Strike. Can't say if that's overall a good or bad thing but seven certainly looks cleaner. Are there any seams at all in the canopy or is that just one giant piece of fabric? If they're really super light and seem to be holding up after a year I'd probably consider one for my largest size.
Let the pioneers take the arrows
These look pretty awesome! Separate inflation for strut and LE? How stiff are the handles compared to the v3 f-one strikes? Hard handle options pending?I was looking at the north mode and the cabrinha apex as options to replace my current v1 strikes, but not alot of beta on the apex wings, and the modes are limited sizes. Anyone have any experience for comparison?
Tons of these wings in La Ventana this winter.
Does anyone know who manufactures the pump that comes with the wings? They are sold out on the website, but I used one and its a very nice pump for higher pressure wings/kites.
I was hoping to demo in Maui but it didn't work out. Notes from others:
Extremely light (I'd love to see an actual weight for them)
Lacks low end but unlimited high end. Sizing up is common. (I'd also like to measure and compare them). Have heard theories that the small leading edge causes this, but it's just coffee talk. The same small leading edge is what makes them fly so nice once up.
A few reports of canopies stretching out or stretching in an odd fashion. They've been good on warranties from what I've heard.
Altogether positive results, no one regrets getting them and I've only seen a few on the used market.
I was hoping to demo in Maui but it didn't work out. Notes from others:
Extremely light (I'd love to see an actual weight for them)
Lacks low end but unlimited high end. Sizing up is common. (I'd also like to measure and compare them). Have heard theories that the small leading edge causes this, but it's just coffee talk. The same small leading edge is what makes them fly so nice once up.
A few reports of canopies stretching out or stretching in an odd fashion. They've been good on warranties from what I've heard.
Altogether positive results, no one regrets getting them and I've only seen a few on the used market.
Didn't try one either, but rode with people riding them and pretty consistent with what I saw / heard. Pumps smaller than stated size, but rides overpowered very well. Also noticed people taking dramatically harder upwind angles on these vs basically anything else on the water. Very light and well behaved luffing.
Excellent wings! More like a sail than a toy. Ken A's review pretty much says it all. Couldn't imagine riding any other current wings. I paid full retail and would definitely do it again.
Thinking about ordering a 4 or 5m. Any chance you can say anything about sizing vs any major brands? (I've been riding fone strikes and old ocean rodeo glide). Wondering how much smaller the dynamo runs (old or Glides are also running small vs strike)
Thinking about ordering a 4 or 5m. Any chance you can say anything about sizing vs any major brands? (I've been riding fone strikes and old ocean rodeo glide). Wondering how much smaller the dynamo runs (old or Glides are also running small vs strike)
Dynamo run quite small. The new AAs run bigger than the old.
4.3m: 105" span 59.5" root chord.
5.3m: 124" span 59.5" root chord.
I ran some crude math on the canopies, the 4.3m is about .3m larger than the 3m AA and the 5.3m is about .15m bigger than the 4m AA.
3.4m dynamo runs smaller than 3m strike v3.
Dyneema frame. Code 95 Canopy.
Prototype?
Yep. going to strip weight out of it and tune 1-2 things for prototype v2. Pretty good wing at the moment IMO. Will be better lighter.